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#1: Aug 19th 2011 at 1:51:12 AM

The trope is about bad artists and stated so in universe that they are bad. Getting reactions like Blue with Shock and so on as a subtrope to Stylistic Suck.

It's not exactly part of the Hollywood set of tropes.

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#2: Aug 19th 2011 at 2:39:23 AM

Agreed.

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#4: Aug 19th 2011 at 3:26:06 PM

Bad Artist, Bad Art, Bad Drawing, Hollywood Bad Artist (going on how it says that the in-universe reactions to it are much more horrific than a real life example would be), Draws Like A Little Kid. Maybe?

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#5: Aug 19th 2011 at 6:24:54 PM

Crappy Crayon Coloring?

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#6: Aug 20th 2011 at 1:20:36 PM

I think "character's horrible art inspires other characters to react (often disproportionately)" is a trope and I agree that Hollywood Scribbling does not really describe that trope very well.

Still, I also feel like "character's art is described as horribly bad, but being drawn by a professional artist is not actually that poor or is bad in an inconsistent way" is a trope as well and I think I have seen it quite a bit before. I would support a split or a trope transplant in order to deal with those examples.

edited 20th Aug '11 3:13:13 PM by LouieW

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#7: Aug 20th 2011 at 2:29:15 PM

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#9: Aug 21st 2011 at 5:46:19 AM

[up] Oh very good name there.

I opened up an image picking thread since the current one doesn't show the in-universe aspect.

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#10: Sep 30th 2011 at 4:33:42 AM

I feel that a simplistic name like 'Bad Artist' would be the best choice. Still, if one can think of a better name, by all means go for it.

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#12: Sep 30th 2011 at 11:09:08 AM

If there are multiple tropes tied up in here, this is one of them:

Graphik Artz: Banner, sign or any other handmade drawing which purportedly has been made by untrained hands but which obviously was the expensive work of professional artists. Use of Graphik Artz is usually betrayed by the perfect lines, circles and randomly reversed letters in a child's drawing, or a picket sign at an "impromptu" grassroots rally which is silkscreened in two-color Dom-Casual.

That's from Ebert's Movie Glossary

edited 30th Sep '11 11:09:33 AM by Elle

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#13: Oct 28th 2011 at 9:50:01 PM

Bump.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Dec 16th 2011 at 5:14:43 AM

Got a holler for a rename but I'd like to see some more name propositions and discussion before starting a crowner. </Dehat>

To my mind the trope is not just Brown Note Art, it's pointing to: a) Character attempting art who are not very good artists will be very bad artists. b) "Bad artist" is commonly telegraphed in a specific way: exaggeratedly bad "childen's art".

Not so easy to get a) and b) into the same name though. I tried that and I got Art Skill Dicotomy Flag, which seems a bit meh.

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#15: Dec 16th 2011 at 6:32:26 AM

So then we have two tropes here? Art made to look bad but can tell that it was done by a skilled artist trying to make it look bad.

Then Art so bad that it makes people gag, faint etc in universe reaction that they suck ass. IE this sequence in Yuru Yuri [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] The In-Universe Bad Artist (Art equivalent to Lethal Chef.)

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Dec 16th 2011 at 7:24:00 AM

I suspect "professionally bad art" is another idea again. I'm not sure that it is art so bad that it makes people gag, faint. I can't see that in the text.

I'd be interested to know what the wicks "think" this is. It's got 60 wicks so whatever it is, it's not doing so bad.

edited 16th Dec '11 7:32:36 AM by Camacan

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#17: Dec 18th 2011 at 3:37:29 PM

Crowner for a name change? I'm for it; Hollywood Scribbling makes me think it's for cases where what the artist appears to be drawing doesn't match what's on the paper.

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#18: Dec 18th 2011 at 3:50:56 PM

How about Awful Attempt At Art?

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#19: Dec 18th 2011 at 3:53:30 PM

[up][up][up] Brown Note Art is a name I really like.

Art so bad people go Blue with Shock, usually the artist will think they are good and sometimes the people who see it try not to insult the artist.

Lethal Chef, Dreadful Musician you know stuff along those lines.

(not the best example as its really quick.I

edited 18th Dec '11 3:58:09 PM by Raso

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#20: Jan 21st 2012 at 1:07:28 PM

Character(s)'s Artwork looks bad

Artwork that looks bad:Childish

Other

Little Context/Unclear

Index / Related Trope

I am not sure how great this wick check is, but from what I can tell, most of the examples are just "character is bad at art." The only example of the trope idea I mentioned earlier was the Eight Bit Theater one, so there might not be grounds for a trope there. Most of uses of the trope had very little context and aside from the ones I put in the childish category, there do not appear to be many that clearly telegraph "bad artist" in a specific way.

Whatever we decide to do with this trope, I think the laconic probably needs to be adjusted since whether or not a character has been established as a artist does not seem to play into most of the uses of Hollywood Scribbling. In fact, some of the examples actually mention artist characters who do have problems making good art.

edited 21st Jan '12 1:11:27 PM by LouieW

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#21: Jan 21st 2012 at 1:11:06 PM

Based on that Terrible Artist might make sense for revising this.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#23: Jan 29th 2012 at 11:23:08 AM

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.

Hollywood Scribbling found in: 63 articles, excluding discussions.

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16th Feb '12 11:52:31 AM

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