YMMV / Tales Series

  • Broken Base:
    • Whether games created by Team Symphonia note  or by Team Destiny note  are the better ones. Hardcore fans of either base are unlikely to admit liking games created by the other teams, whereas a third party, who enjoys both games, is generally ignored.
    • Like any long-running franchise fans will always debate over which game is the best, which party was the best, which hero and heroine are the best, and who the best villain is.
    • The games are popular in the JRPG fandom but there's a pretty vocal group of people who consider the games to be very generic and samey, even when compared to other JRPG franchises. Frequent criticisms are uninspired character designs and dated visuals, overuse of JRPG cliches (claiming that the Deconstruction of multiple cliches the series is famed for either isn't worth sitting through the Cliché Storm phase, and/or doesn't really make the stories and characters much better or less stereotypically anime/one-note), button mashey gameplay and Sakuraba's work for the series not being as strong as his other compositions. The games tend to be released in a pretty short amount of time, leading to over-saturation in some people's eyes.
  • Complete Monster: We have a page for that.
  • Fandom Rivalry: In the West, this series has a strong one with Final Fantasy over which long-running JRPG series is better. Some of the most notable clashes include Tales of Phantasia vs Final Fantasy I, Tales of Symphonia vs Final Fantasy VII, Tales of the Abyss vs Final Fantasy VIII or Final Fantasy X, Tales of Xillia vs Final Fantasy XIII, and Tales of Berseria vs Final Fantasy XV.
  • Friendly Fandoms: Some players of this franchise are also fighting-game players as the combat system is very similar to that of a combo-focused fighting game. It helps that the BlazBlue series was getting started when more Tales of games were coming out internationally alongside of a revitalization of the 2D fighter.
  • It's the Same, Now It Sucks: One of the biggest complains to the point of earning the nickname "Tales of Stagnation". The dated graphics and mechanics are often mentioned, especially in comparison with games like NieR: Automata. Also, the tales of franchise is often mentioned as one of the reasons for the JRPG decay.
  • Scrappy Mechanic: Has it's own entry on the page for each game; but one series-wide is the franchises' notorious way of handling side-quests. The Tales series are up there with unforgiving timing. Unless you're really attentive, curious, or got the guide on standby, the games are perfectly content with letting you miss them without a clue or notice that it was even available or open. Another dogged way they handle side-quests is they'll put one that is seemingly innocuous or nearly a waste of time...only for you to find out later that if you missed or skipped a side-quest early in the game, you miss out on the big rewards near end game. Countless 100% runs would be wasted because they didn't get to that one innocent quest 10 minutes into the game, only to find out they missed it and can't redo 80% of their adventure to catch up.
  • Seasonal Rot: For some fans this started kicking in with Tales of Graces as most of the games since then have tried their hand at new mechanics and additions to the combat system that some fans feel the Team Symphonia games perfected. If that's not your problem than the fact that the gameplay has become formulaic most likely is. The newer games have also been criticized for having weaker stories and characters, and the signature tropes getting old and predictable. Tales of Zestiria is often seen as the worst example of this trope in the franchise for both gameplay and narrative though fans in Japan have found Tales of Berseria to be a much needed revitalization of the franchise.
  • Seinfeld Is Unfunny: For some of the most veteran fans, the Deconstructor Fleet has been done so many times in the series (both well and badly executed) that it has become a cliché in it on itself by this point. Never mind the fact that some of the games were considered damn smart in this regard when they came out (some of them still hold up when judged by their own merits, some of them...not so much).
  • The Scrappy: There are plenty of them throughout the series.
  • Win Back the Crowd: After several Broken Base games, especially for Tales of Zestiria, Tales of Berseria was released and received great critical reception in both the East and West.
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