YMMV / Jim Cornette


  • Awesome Ego: There is a reason why the Cornette has had such a long career, despite being difficult to work with.
  • Base-Breaking Character
    • Jim Cornette is respected by a good portion of wrestling fans for his honesty, his willingness to speak truth to power, and his overall entertaining rants. On the other hand, many other fans feel that he's outdated and that he's nothing more than a bitter old man who just can't accept the fact that wrestling has changed. In his defense, Cornette has helped to discover and develop many wrestlers who would go on to become major players in the Attitude Era. He's also willing to speak out for underutilized wrestlers whom management cast aside in favor of the "sports entertainers." And he's known to be (mostly) gracious to the many wrestlers who have worked with and under him. Of course, it also helps that he's genuinely one of the more charismatic and eloquent speakers in wrestling who will always give the audience the straight scoop. On the flip side, however, Cornette's stubbornness has led to him burning bridges with almost every wrestling organization he's worked with. He's also known to hold a bitter grudge for a long time even against people like Shawn Michaels who have, by almost all accounts, stopped being manipulative backstage politicians in later in life (as opposed to the 90s, when Michaels interacted with Cornette). It also doesn't help that he has, for the record, physically slapped workers in the past like Santino Marella for making on-air mistakes. And, of course, he's gotten himself more and more hatred in recent years for trashing fan favorite wrestlers and organizations like Colt Cabana, Kevin Owens, El Generico, Joey Ryan, Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks and Lucha Underground. All these things combined have contributed to making him one of the most divisive figures in wrestling today.
    • Jim Cornette as a booker is also pretty divisive. His only success as a solo booker was Ohio Valley Wrestling, but Cornette's OVW is something of a Cult Classic, believed to have improved what was already a cult classic promotion and provided much comedy as he managed to make the best of situations often entirely out of his control. His most contentious joint projects are all in ROH, serving as an adviser to Adam Pearce and Delirious. While Pearce tended to get all of the blame for his run, Cornette got all of the blame for Delirious's until Cornette was visibly removed from an onscreen roll. Though Delirious continued to get attacked for his booking even after Cornette was out of the company entirely, it was never as vitriolic as Cornette got while he was visible. On the other hand, Cornette's booking collaborations in WWF/E proper and WCW were well liked, while they lasted. Smoky Mountain is something of a vindicated case, as though the territory failed and was often disparaged by many fans, the crowds it drew suggested the booking was working for someone, they just wouldn't come online to talk about it until well after the fact. Late adapters, if you will.
  • He Panned It, Now He Sucks:
    • Vince McMahon, Paul Heyman, Kevin Nash, Hulk Hogan, Vince Russo, Sable, New Jack, Chyna, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Batista, Low Ki, Austin Aries? Well, he's not saying anything someone else hasn't already said about them, he just sugarcoats it less. Wait, he dissed Colt Cabana, Kevin Steen, El Generico, The Young Bucks, Joey Ryan, and Kenny Omega? DAE CORNY LITERALLY HITLER HATING LORD STEEN!!!
    • He also panned The Wrestler. (Not just that; Corny said he'd rather live next to a child molester than someone who worked in the wrestling business if the only things he knew about the business came from The Wrestler.)
    • He implied AAA was going in the wrong direction for years, but spent four minutes trashing on Lucha Underground, and everyone lost their minds. Perhaps because it was unexpected; he gave Lucha Libre USA his seal of approval (expecting it to fail, oops). Plus, he's is a big El Santo, Perro Aguayo (not Jr.) and Gran Hamada (plus Ayako) fan so it was expected he'd at least like the matches. The fact that he also sees nothing wrong with dropping massive spoilers about upcoming twists without so much as a warning doesn't help matters, especially as LU (which is taped weeks or months in advance) already has a massive problem with spoilers.
    • This video where Corny was asked about NXT. Surprise: He doesn't like NXT either. ("We taught people how to wrestle! We didn't just teach them how to be gimmicks! They pumped a bunch of money into the performance center because the son-in-law [Triple H] wants to look like he knows what he's doing!") Cornette later softened his stance on NXT, as he is a big fan of The Revival and other acts that later appeared on the show, admitting that Triple H managed to do a good job putting on as close to a "wrestling" show as you can get in the world of Sports Entertainment.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
    • In one match back in the 90's, Cornette smashed Johnny Ace (John Lauriniatis) in the stomach with his tennis racket when Lauriniatis was a wrestler. Nowadays, Cornette hates Lauriniatis the executive with a passion.
    • His interview about the scaffold accident that damaged his knees. At the time it was chilling. Now people just watch it to see the Cornette face.
    • His shoot interviews promoting TNA's family friendly product and how it only needed to rely on in ring action instead of overbooked events, comedy angles, girls hanging out of their clothing and hardcore garbage wrestling. Since leaving TNA his shoot interviews have mostly consisted of him complaining about TNA doing all those things he previously said it would not.
    • His shoot interviews promoting Ring of Honor's internet pay per views on go fight live, television program on HD net and how great the matches between Kevin Steen and El Generico would be. Considering how badly go fight live would handle the pay per views, how few people were even able to watch the HD net program and how many creative issues he would have with Steen and Generico.
    • Cornette's criticism of Anthem, regarding their use of TNA, particularly suing Matt Hardy over his "Broken" gimmick, became funnier when Anthem listened and offered Cornette a job. For his part Cornette softened on everything, saying he would take the opportunity to learn more about them, see how he could be more constructive, everything except Matt Hardy, who maintains shouldn't be sued for his gimmick.
    • For a little while, there was a Jim Cornette Fanclub run by a man named Andrew Goldberger. One day, he introduces a small-time video store owner with aspirations of becoming a booker to Jon Arezzi, who runs a wrestling news show on radio. From this connection, Vince Russo would begin his career in professional wrestling. He would go on to rise through the ranks, reporting on the wrestling scandals of the early 90s, going behind Arezzi's back, finding work with the WWF and WCW, generating some of the most reviled angles and programs wrestling has ever seen, and becoming Jim Cornette's arch-nemesis. Russo's origin story and Cornette's shock and awe is really worth listening to.
  • Magnificent Bastard: While it did not last, Jim Cornette worked as a booker, agent and onscreen talent for TNA while owning WWE's developmental league. Yes, he did both at the same time.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • Before The Undertaker threw Mick Foley off of Hell in a Cell, Jim Cornette falling off the scaffold at Starrcade was the most replayed fall in professional wrestling.
    • For a long time, the only thing some people knew about Jim Cornette was that he went off on someone behind the desk of a Dairy Queen. On this very website the franchise was listed as his arch enemy until Cornette later released a statement that he actually does enjoy Dairy Queen, just not that particular one.
    • The Cornette Face, courtesy of Botchamania. Cornette loved it so much he often wears a shirt with a picture of the "Cornette Face".
    • "Thank you, fuck you, bye!"
  • Mis-blamed:
    • While he had a considerable amount of influence in booking during his time in Ring of Honor, the final decisions were still in the hands of Adam Pearce and then Hunter Johnston. Jim Cornette does not blame Adam Pearce or Hunter Johnston for anything though. If we were to take Cornette's word for it, most of the blame lies with the suits of the Sinclair Broadcast Group.
    • For one example, he says Pearce ran into friction from the Sinclair employees and got kicked out after declaring his desire to beat up one of them, Jim saying he felt the same way but in an uncharacteristic moment decided to keep his job by playing "nice".
    • For two examples, he thinks Hunter Johnston was given too much while not being provided with the adequate means to get it all done. Johnston was also head of the ROH school but Sinclair went back on getting the school building seen in the proposal that lead to them purchasing Ring Of Honor in the first place. Jim thought too much was asked of himself by Sinclair as well and this time, true to character, did tell them off (but apparently not bad enough to lose his job... yet).
    • He got blamed for the release of several ROH wrestlers, many who were let go because internal politics with people not even involved with wrestling prior to Ring Of Honor's purchase or because Sinclair wanted to cut back on Ring Of Honor's budget. Sometimes the connection was made because Cornette did not like them, say, Cabana or Steen, who he still considered championship material (he described the show Steen won the title on as being on the best ROH could do and saw Colt Cabana becoming WWE champion). Other times it was just assumed Cornette didn't like somebody, such as The Young Bucks/Generation Me, who he turned out to be fond of, at least back then. (They weren't his favorites, him stating they weren't going to be bringing in new fans and that ROH had plenty of tag teams just as good but Cornette still wanted to use them because the ROH fans he didn't want to lose wanted to see them. He couldn't convince the new company owners to pay for the Bucks though SGB eventually did come around and start paying The Bucks to work less in an effort to extend their careers)
    • Since Jim doesn't like "cartoon wrestling" he was blamed for the Chikara guys (The Colony, The Super Smash Brothers, Los Ice Creams) not getting more spots in ROH, rather than the fact they were not contracted under Ring of Honor. Though Jim's shoot interviews don't help his case (he said he would have been against their booking if not for overwhelming fan demand and would have rather had the Hardy Boyz, who were punchlines to RoHbots until the Broken! gimmick that was way later. He eventually smartened up, saying he'd rather have had the always in demand Fergal Devitt, though there is no way ROH could have gotten him on the non budget it had at the time while they already had one Hardy.)
    • Despite their enmity, Colt Cabana would voice many of the same reasons for not returning to ROH that Cornette had for leaving. While Cabana would eventually return, it appears his issues with Cornette were a little overblown.
  • Never Live It Down: Cornette is usually credited with discovering Matt Morgan, who is not considered a great wrestler. Morgan was pushed to win the OVW title before his WWE runs. After his failed WWE runs, Jim still vouched Morgan, which lead to his TNA runs.
  • Rooting for the Empire: When he betrayed the Dynamic Dudes in WCW in favor of the Midnight Express (as if that was surprising), he was cheered, despite the Dudes supposedly being baby faces.
  • Seinfeld Is Unfunny: Cornette's legacy is as one of the all time great managers/personalities but not as a creative mind, as in that regard he's considered to be firmly stuck in the past.
  • Most Wonderful Sound: Many fans say that they could listen to Cornette's voice all day.
  • Suspiciously Similar Song: The Midnight Express entrance music was a take on Giorgio Moroder's "Chase" (not surprisingly, from the movie Midnight Express). In ECW, they gave him the real song, as they had for Bobby Eaton in 1994.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: It is considered that Cornette himself holds this view, and is the reason why he doesn't appear as much as he used to do. Cornette knows more about wrestling than probably anyone here will ever know, so he has a great mind for the business, but he's just stuck in a different era.
  • True Art Is Angsty: After his managerial career pretty much ended, he became available for interviews and did a lot of shoots where he praised Kurt Angle, Delirious, D'Lo Brown, Val Venis, Booker T, Dutch Mantel, Samoa Joe, John Cena, Shelton Benjamin, Jim Ross, The Rock, Les Thatcher, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Mick Foley, Abyss, Nigel McGuinness, Homicide, Savio Vega, Kenta Kobashi, Kenta Kobayashi, Jay Lethal and many others for their work. Now try to find clips of any of that on YouTube. Even if you can it is likely buried in a sea of rants about people he doesn't like. People really prefer his angry rants, it seems. The Drunken Peasants admit to bringing him onto their show just to hear him bash WWE.
  • Values Dissonance:
    • ROH, LAX in TNA...everywhere he goes will have a weird race-based angle within a year or two. He was a big proponent of the Gang Warz in '97, randomly inserting himself into an angle with Homicide where he called him "boy" and whipped him repeatedly.
    • His storylines that involve women, for instance, are incredibly misogynistic. The trope of the bitchy woman who wrongs the hero of his story is a bit overdone.
  • Vindicated by History:
    • For example, he always said that UFC did the wrestling thing better than WWE. Even when it was the mixed martial artists leaving for pro wrestling he said everyone should be concerned with that UFC, but back then few listened to the guy who booked Smoky Mountain.
    • The Young Bucks, Kevin Steen and Sami Zayn. Whether he likes them personally or not, he still had the vision to push all three.
    • At the time of Smoky Mountain's closing, he was viewed as whiny and unwilling to take responsibility. His competence as a promoter and in financial management looked better after the closing of ECW and WCW. Cornette at least paid off his debt while Paul Heyman admitted he'd have kept operating with a debt Smoky Mountain never came close to so long as ECW had distribution. Meanwhile, many involved with WCW, besides running Cornette and the Expresses off from the company twice, would play significant parts in stunting TNA's growth. Cornette's time in ROH, hated as it was by the fan base, still brought the company its highest turnouts and buy rates up to that point, ultimately playing a key role in saving the company.

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