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- Backed by the fact that Nathan Fillion is God.
Cyrus Temple is the antithesis of everything that Kinzie Kensington is. She's a forward-thinking tech loving non-traditional girl that shuns people (although desiring someone to be close to), and he's a conservative, militaristic, traditional man with very good people skills. However, deep down, they're quite similar. Both are extremely vindictive toward anyone they feel wronged them, to the point that they'd screw themselves and betray things they believed in and put a lot of time into to get revenge. Kinzie, when pushed to the edge, enjoys destruction and violence just as much as everyone else, and is willing to get up-close and personal and beat the shit out of people.
Now, what would lead to her hating him that much, him being in her personal nightmare, and her being his opposite yet so similar? Why does she know younger him? Because he was her (abusive, controlling) father. Think about it, why would she end up in the FBI? There's no way she would have chosen to join on her own. It involves working for others, obeying orders, being around tons of people and losing independence. She joined the Saints due to needing to. Why would she want to be in the FBI, unless she was forced to join the government in some way by her father? She's not even too broken up about going from being in a group massively slaughtered by the Saints (FBI attacks in Saints Row 2 at max wanted) to being in the Saints. In fact, she doesn't care. At all. The fact that he's a part of her worst fear seems to be logical, if he was a controlling, abusive factor in her life. And, quite obviously, it would be easy for her to erase any records of their relation. Also, in their homie conversation, Pierce and Kinzie talk about Paul, and Kinzie is about to explain who he is to Pierce, but he threatens her with a secret about something in her White Crib desk. Sexual stuff is no threat to Kinzie, and as secretive as she is, most things wouldn't be kept in a sentimental-type location like a desk. A family photo perhaps?
Additionally, even saying some of who she is is genetic, a lot of her issues likely come from some earlier trauma. She doesn't even know to wash her hair, which seems to indicate that her family was extremely dysfunctional, and she apparently had nobody she was close to while growing up, ever, which would make sense if her father was an abusive, misogynistic man with his entire life being focused on his career. Considering that she comments in one of her homie conversations in this game that the Boss has banned her from using the word "sister(s)" due to her constantly seeking a "familial connection", her mother was likely dead as well.
- This make's Kinzie's cyber-nightmare even more extremely creepy than it was, given that she was married to him.
- Given how extremely abusive he'd already be in this theory (again, doesn't know how to wash her hair), yeah, I could see that happening.
- Having just played through that mission, a husband is mentioned, but never named. It's entirely possible that part of her nightmare was being forced into a stereotypical housewife role in a marriage to someone chosen by her father.
- Given how extremely abusive he'd already be in this theory (again, doesn't know how to wash her hair), yeah, I could see that happening.
- Jossed.
- Killbane and Dex will collaborate with the aliens.
- Zinyak and the aliens will be revealed to be Dex and the remnants of the Masako using stolen secret Ultor technology.
Assuming that the ending where Shaundi, Burt Reynolds and Viola Dewynter all die is canon, the game will begin with Boss, having retired from the gangster life, visting the graves of his fallen comrades, telling them how sorry he is that let them die, eventually he is contacted by either Pierce, Zimos, Kinzie, or Oleg for One Last Job, and he decides to except it.
- The game seems to take a mix of the two, with Boss taking power even though s/he stopped STAG's terrorist attack.
- The game will have Boss being haunted by nightmares of the days he let Shaundi and Gat die.
- Given the alien invasion storyline and Emotional Torque in the latest trailer that might be a possibility as a Shout-Out to Mass Effect 3, given the Saints are in a Lotus-Eater Machine and all.
- With the above guess established as canon, at some point in the fourth game The Saints will, in association with the Ultor Corporation, colonize Mars and the logical thing will happen from there.
- May be Jossed, considering Earth is Atomotized. The Earth was is bad shape in Red Faction though but not to the Earth-Shattering Kaboom way.
- Wouldn't killing the respawns then make you really insane?
- What makes this all the more insanely possible is the fact it would explain a lot of things, and that, while some events of the Saints Row series may be real, others could be the result of the Protagonist's mind becoming more and more warped:
- It would explain the shift from the somewhat reality-themed first game to the surrealistic sequel, as a result of the people he/she murdered, and he/she also probably got hit in the head in the boat explosion, which caused a form of permanent brain damage that makes him/her see things, making his/her's "hallucinations" problem even worse.
- Lin's, Aisha's, and Carlos' deaths were met with no small amount of denial by the Protagonist, and fueled by his/her inner desire to have them back, they DO return with a phone call to a voodoo company... but given his/her insanity, he/she only remembers that he/she was the cause of their deaths, so he/she only "sees" them as zombies and hears comments over the radio that they are zombies, corrupting the good memories he/she had of them.
- The killing of Julius Little (the closest thing he/she had to a father figure) and the betrayal of Dex (a non-psychotic former close friend) actually wrecked the Boss' mind even more, to the point half the people he killed in the Looney Tunes-like mission "Ultor Family Fun Day" in the mission pack "Corporate Warfare" were either hallucinations, or real people he/she was actually killing — And the ninjas at the rooftop? Either cops trying to put you down, or the memory of all the Ronin you slaughtered coming back to haunt you.
- ...The thing that may dismiss this theory, I admit, is the fact that, after I killed a cop, one of them said: "Don't worry! Nobody stays dead in Stillwater!". I kid you not.
- Confirmed, mecha will be part of the game.
First of all the story will be slightly different depending on which final mission you did first if you have a game save of Saints Row: The Third, or, if not, the game gives you a choice of whether or not Shaundi is alive. No matter the choice, the Boss is forced to return to Stilwater either way, but the HOW is different:
- If Shaundi is alive (Route A), the Saints return to Stilwater for the premiere of Ganstas in Space there, but the Boss is attack and/or the festivities are ruined when a gang shoot out erupts between members of three upstart gangs wishing to fill-in the partial vacuum left by the Saints during the events of the third game. Thus, the Boss has to boot out these losers from Stilwater.
- If Shaundi is dead (Route B), the Saints are chillin' in the Broken Shillelagh or the Mayor Pierce Washington's office when a mysterious black garbed gang attacks them out of the blue. Though dispatched easily, the last remaining member blurts out a cryptic warning, saying that Stilwater will be the center of the coming reckoning before dosing himself with cyanide. This sparks worry in the Boss and feeling a bit homesick at this point with returns to Stilwater.
At this point, both A and B have established that Stilwater is under siege by three rival gangs, all of whom are connected to the Syndicate whose true colors are significantly DARKER than all the other groups faced before or after. The three major gangs are:
- The Deckers: Though returning and still having the neo-cyber-futuristic look, they drop the Goth and Emo trappings as Matt Miller officially quits when he is ordered by the leading gang of the Syndicate to set up shop in Stilwater, wanting to avoid the Boss at all costs. They are instead led by a new female leader and makes the gang in Stilwater a mostly all-girls club with a new style to compliment the neo-cyber-futuristic look.
- The Sons of Samedi: Another returning gang, it turns out that the Sons are in fact members of the Syndicate and have becoming much bigger internationally since their defeat in Stilwater, becoming far more successful in their home of the Carribean and in Africa. The gang is led by the cousin of the General, who was once an African warlord turned crime lord after the death of his brother. Initially volunteers to gain territory in Stilwater to take revenge against the Boss.
- The Remnants: Either the combination of whatever dregs still remained of not only the Brotherhood but also of all three gangs from the very first game forcefully puts together by the Syndicate or an entirely different group all together.
One major plot point during the game would be the intense rivalry between the Sons and the Deckers, not only due to differing methods of crime and beliefs, but also because the Sons' new leader is a chauvenist who believes women are only good for making children and is forced to be in League with a a entirely made up of girl that can go toe-to-toe with his gang. The Saints take advantage of this and excellate the rivalry to where the leaders of both factions duking it out in a no holds barred dreamscape of epic proportions with the Deckers' leader using a tricked out internet avatar similar to what Matt Miller used and the Sons' leader using a dream avatar induced from drug-induced trance. The Boss uses BOTH methods simultaneously to enter the fight and make a MeleeATrois, with you choosing which one to take down to make permanently brain dead, forcing you to defeat the remaining fighter back in the real world.
Meanwhile, the overall story arc will involve the Saints directly facing against a group calling themselves The True Syndicate ,the gang that controls the entire Syndicate and the guys that Phillipe Loren used to answer to before he was killed. The leaders, whom are never seen and fought until the very end of the game, believe themselves to be the ancestors of the few sinners whom survived God's cleansing of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and use their global organization as their way of bringing together all of the planet's Evil together and spreading the word of their near-fanatical devotion to crime, making the group essentially a cult bordering on Satanic. Backstory reveals that Killbane, having no idea the true leading group ever existed and thinking the Syndicate was merely a equalized coalition or something went rogue by electing himself the new leader after Phillipe's death without going through proper channels.
In Route A, the Boss chews out Viola about this when she reveals she knew about these guys from beginning and never bothered to tell him/her.
Things are further complicated when STAG is involved. However, leadership, interactions with them, and ultimately the story depends on the Routes:
- Route A: Commander Cyrus returns with a new second-in-command, forced out of retirement and once again clashes against the Saints. However, Cyrus is a bit more mellowed out towards the Saints due to the TRUE Syndicate revealing themselves and seeing them as the bigger threat, leading up to a an epic Enemy Mine when the Syndicate go into their master plan.
- Route B: Kia is the Commander of STAG due to Cyrus getting killed off. She comes back after somehow surviving her own false terrorist plot to incriminate the Saints due to unseen cybernetic implants and replacements and quite possibly even MORE extreme then before, resulting in STAG not only managing to COMPLETELY decimate the Syndicate but also starting to plan possible world domination to eradicate all crime off the face of the Earth.
Now comes the endings, dependent on which Route is taken and once again having a choice of final missions that effects the final ending:
- Route A: The TRUE syndicate has revealed that their final plan is to summon the single demon or legion of demons the leaders are worshiping onto the Living Realm, sacrificing the souls of all of Stilwater and using the city as said demon('s/s') main landing spot. The Saints then team up with STAG to siege the Syndicate's base of operations and then battling against its leaders one by one, whom allow their patron "gods" to take control of their bodies, turning them into horrendous monsters. The Boss finally encounters the Top Leader of the Syndicate. Instead of fighting the villain, he bounces instead into the now, thankfully, human sized portal into Hell. Here you have the choice of either following the madman into Hell, or just shutting down the portal.
- Going Global: The Boss shuts down the portal and is declared a National Hero by the President. Skip to somewhere in Switzerland where The Syndicate, no longer having the TRUE Syndicate as its leader, come together to decide who will run the entire organization. Killbane makes his appearance to declare himself the leader and for anyone who objects to face him in combat. Enter the Boss. This leads to a giant shootout mission where you have kill off all the Syndicate Leaders and then search out and kill Killbane himself all within a time limit. Afterwards, the Syndicate then belongs to the Saints, making the Boss essentially ruler of all crime on Earth.
- Fallen Angels: The Boss winds up in Hell. The True Syndicate Leader ambushes him with a more powerful demonic form and ready to kill the Boss.........but then he gets rescued by Julius and Johnny Gat. They then become your homeys in this final battle where you not only have to destroy the True Leader but also the souls of every single major rival gang leader the Boss has ever killed in the entire series. Soon the battle is over, and the Boss meets up with all the other members of the Saints whom wound up in Hell. Flashforward, with a funeral set up for the Boss with control the Saints going to Shaundi and Kinzie, who reveals that she had feelings for the Boss. At the same time, in Hell, the Boss has become one of the top ranking Lords as well as gaining the ability to freely go between Hell and the Living Realm freely without having to possess someone. The final scene has the Boss, along with Julius and Johnny Gat, bursting into Lucifer's throne room and preparing to takeover Hell itself.
- Route B: The President of the United States along with delegates from the United Nations converge together in Stilwater under the pretense of discussing how to deal with international crime, especially the Saints. Kia, however, plans to rig explosives around the meeting location, basically a repeat of her previous successful plan to discredit the Saints but on a much, MUCH larger scale. Kinzie catches wind of this, and the Boss goes off to save the day. He manages to disarm the bombs and publicly reveal that Kia was the one who blew up the national landmark from the previous game. However, at this point, she's mentally at a state where she doesn't care anymore and, in a fit of rage, uses the President of the United States as a meat shield to make her escape.. A chase ensues, and during and after you are given the choice of either rescuing the President or focusing entirely on killing Kia.
- Klingon Promotion: The Boss manages to rescue the President, but then Kia gets away. Luckily, the President orders a full on missile strike on Kia's escape vehicle, which is soon completely destroyed with little chance of her being alive. The Boss is then declared an international hero recognized by both the US and the UN. As a reward for preventing Kia from taking over the world, the Saints are allowed to keep Steelport as a separate city-state as well as one other wish. Flashforward to a random country in either the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa, or South East Asia ruled by a bloody and violent dictatorship. NATO ships and choppers arrive, but instead of soldiers, members of the Saints arrive with the final mission being a gansta blitz on the country, with the Boss gunning down the leaders of the country and becoming its new ruler. It is revealed the Saints are to be the ones officially sent in by the UN to various dictator controlled countries who refuse to crack down on human rights violations with the gang allowed to conquer the first country they are sent to with automatic UN membership. The Boss chooses Oleg to become the country's new president, which has become the Saints' first ever non-US turf. A short epilogue plays, telling how the country became prosperous and enters a new golden age while under the Saints' control, with the small country becoming a major player in world politics and the Boss eventually revered as a God by the inhabitants.
- New World Order: The Boss allows the President to be killed, by Kia gets away anyway. A few days later, nothing is heard from Kia... until she makes an international announcement that STAG has officially broken off all ties to the US and plans to systematically destroy every major city on the planet unless the governments of each country enact and carry out death penalties to every single criminal and gang member no matter the crime, even littering, with Stilwater being the first city she wipes out just to show STAG's power. She arrives in a truly MASSIVE airship that's even BIGGER than the Daedelus. Basically World War III erupts, with STAG against the entire UN with the Saints spearheading the attack on the airship. The Boss manages to get inside and cause it to self destruct and/or strapped enough bombs at major weakpoints to blow the ship out of the sky, but then has to face off against Kia, who has strapped herself inside a freakin' giant mech, while under a time limit. The Boss emerges victorious and escapes the airship. The Boss is declared a National Hero and (s)he becomes so revered by the US public that (s)he's unanimously elected as President. A short epilogue plays where the US under the Boss's leadership leads to the country reaching a level of prosperity unseen since during and right after World War II, and (s)he becomes so popular (s)he is the first president to have four consecutive terms of office. His final act as President before willingly stepping down and retiring was to officially open the very first completed colony on Mars...
- Unlikely and since Hughes is running for president and will likely be in office by the time of Saint Row 4, she probably won't help them and she will more than likely be the main antagonist. Also, KIA dies in both endings, she either dies in the explosion if you go after Killbane or the boss kills her if you rescue Viola,Burt and Shaundi.
- Please, PLEASE be the writer for Saints Row 4. This sounds awesome in about 20 different ways.
- THQ rang: you're hired.
- (Not original poster) What if both endings are canon, to an extent? Everyone is saved, the movie is still made, and the Boss still declares Steelport his own city-state. And STAG merges with the Saints like Ultor, and becomes the new Steelport Police Department/Armed Forces. That also potentially allows cutscenes from both endings to form the opening of the next game. Plus, Rule of Cool - the Saints have a private army. With laser-armed VTOLs and tanks. Either way, they will also have Daedalus - either the original, or Kinzie's rebuild.
- Both endings are in some way canon. Boss saves Shaundi Viola and Reynolds and STAG are shown to be terrorist, before Boss becomes President.
- The game designers said they were going to follow on with a logical extension of the third game's ending. Unless this is a case of God Never Said That? I am quoting that second hand.
- Logical extension as in all out nuts to the wall anything goes craziness by all accounts: Gangsters in Space was a movie, The Trouble With Clones gave Boss superpowers and the fourth game is an extension something called Enter the Dominatrix with is a play on The Matrix and throws in an alien invasion when Boss becomes President.
- If one looks at the list of achievements/trophies for Saints Row IV, one will notice that one of the missions is called "Dewynter Blues". There is a mission with a similar title in Saints Row: The Third called "Stilwater Blues", where Shaundi is kidnapped for the first time in The Third, which is reminiscent of Shaundi being kidnapped in Saints Row 2. If this plays out the same way, then "Dewynter Blues" will be reminiscent of Viola's twin sister, Kiki, being killed in The Third.
- semi-confirmed. She's only mentioned once, but given that the Earth is destroyed, she presumably died with it.
- confirmed, even though Gat shows up alive somewhat later.
- Confirmed: Gat will return in all of his homicidal glory.
- Alien invasion. Ramping up the emotion. Reliving traumatic events. Atlas mechs. Keith David teaming up with who you can make Shepard. It's pretty much inevitable.
- Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have Mass Effect 3's Gainax Downer Ending parodied.
- Half-confirmed, it's more of a Shout-Out to Mass Effect 2 - The game even has loyalty missions and parodies the romance options
- Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have Mass Effect 3's Gainax Downer Ending parodied.
- Julius. Three reasons why this is possible.
- Each game in the series has a Retcon from the previous one. In the second Boss can be female, and becomes nothing more than a sociopath. In the third game s/he tones this down a lot, Shaundi is completely different and the Saints are seen as celebrities that they wouldn't be if they were the way they acted in the second game. The fourth merges both endings from the third and seemingly completely ignores certain events. Speaking of...
- A conversation with Shaundi is censored when she mentions who MI6 helped the Saints kill. If it was Killbane he lived in the ending where Shaundi is saved. The Saints may have killed him later but this has yet to be confirmed.
- The secret mission where Boss kills Julius is never brought up. If Boss never did seek revenge then having mellowed out on being a psychotic asshole s/he may have sought out the old gang leader in a role reversal. Keep in mind a moral choice at the beginning of the game is to either work on ending world hunger or cancer, perhaps the most heroic thing Boss has ever done. If s/he's done that then maybe Boss and Julius have made amends, especially if Troy and Gat seem to had done so.
- This part, at least, appears to be Jossed. Keith David is playing Vice President Keith David. But characters Lampshade how how he sounds a LOT like Julius...
- This seems like exactly the sort of meta twist this series would pull off. Perhaps Julius survived getting shot by the Boss through the interference of the aliens, and considers Earth getting enslaved by space aliens to be better than letting the Boss run the free world.
- Jossed about being Julius (they just sound alike), and being the Big Bad over Zinyak. Confirmed for the FaceāHeel Turn, but he makes a HeelāFace Turn back.
- No shit right? However like the third game you have to make choices. Well Saints Row IV look to be going for more emotional punch. In the third game you had to choose whether to sacrifice her to kill Killbane. In the fourth there's two Shaundis. What if you could only save one and that determined to some extent the ending?
- Confirmed, in that they both get grabbed by Veteran Child, and a Sadistic Choice is presented... but Jossed when then they both go "Fuck. That.", and mutually finish him off, all without your help.
- Jossed: It's Keith David, though only temporarily, and because he was a Well Intenioned Extremist
- The achievements suggest there will be numerous romance options in the game.
- Jossed. That and a picture during one of the simulations are all we see of Dex. YMMV on whether it's a clever jab or the devs sticking up the middle finger.
- Though there is still the possiblity of coming back in the DLC.
- Confirmed, in Gat Out Of Hell you are "finally going to be able to kill dex".
- And then what? For the sequel they take over all the universes? Are they going to fight BioShock Infinite?
- Going into other universes is a possibility. Or maybe the Saints decide to join forces with Heaven to take over hell and rule it as their own (after beating the devil to death with phallic-shaped dildos).
- Yes.
- Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, Killbane's status is still wide open. He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of going to Mars, found the Zin.
- According to the leaked achievements, it's either rule the universe with your homeis, or rule by yourself (presumably, the "Bad" ending of "You Chose... Poorly" trying to partner up with Zinyak).
- Not quite either. The choice is between sacrificing yourself to save the Earth, and fighting Zinyak and letting him destroy Earth. This choice comes very early in the game, so it becomes a But Thou Must!, though if you pick the first option, you get a Non-Standard Game Over and the aforementioned "You Chose...Poorly" achievement.
- He'll partner with you during the game but in the final couple of missions he'll be forced to betray you and the boss will have to kill him. Of course by then you'll have found their cloning facilities and make another so you don't alienate players who still want him for the sandbox.
- That, or he's wasn't killed at all, he just got abducted by the Zin.
- Jossed sadly, instead we get a half baked betrayal from Keith David A pity really, with the simulation being designed to break the boss it seems a missed opportunity.
- That, or he's wasn't killed at all, he just got abducted by the Zin.
- Former wrestling superstar Angel De La Muerte has started the Steelport Wrestling School, giving guidance to a fresh crop of pupils. The veteran's regimen has drawn some fire for the dire actions its students must make, such as wading through a pool full of piranhas, punching each other with barbed-wire gloves, and something called the Margarine Treatment.
- At least one trailer showed a Saint in a ridiculous-looking nice hat and Pimp Duds, so Zimos is all but confirmed. Still need to wait for Angel, though...
- Zimos is mentioned a couple of times but never specifically shown on screen, given a couple of other returning characters were Back for the dead they may be saving Zimos for a DLC.
- At least one trailer showed a Saint in a ridiculous-looking nice hat and Pimp Duds, so Zimos is all but confirmed. Still need to wait for Angel, though...
After becoming bored from trying to unite humanity under one banner through peaceful means. The soon to be Emperor went on an extended drinking binge for several decades, partially losing his memory and joining a street gang for kicks. Because Boss Emperor is the biggest badass ever to walk the Earth, he raises his Saints (or rather, his "angels") from rabble to ruler of the most powerful nation on Earth. When a minor xeno fleet attacks Earth with a paltry few thousand warships, the Boss Emperor unites his followers, eradicates the attacking species, and restores Earth with advanced technology, thus ushering a new age of humanity from the lofty heights of his Golden Throne. Afterall, who else could hold the Imperium together as a living corpse? As to the God Emperor's sex, well, that's what the Inquisition is for, to suppress the truth.
- Given the sheer mayhem the Boss causes, the Boss as an Avatar of Khorne is more likely.
Sometimes, she'll mention life on a farm, and has various voice mannerisms common to the Deep South in general. What sells this WMG, however, is that she'll sometimes shout "Roll Tide!" in combat.
Everything from the President's capture onwards was part of a carefully constructed simulation where, even when the Boss seems to break free, he's still in the simulation. Their spaceship? The attacks on the Zin's mothership? Johnny's survival? Zinyak's death? All part of the simulation, all to placate the Boss and keep them from breaking free. It would definitely explain Zinyak suddenly appearing during the Dance Party Ending.
- Also, many of the simulation-based mechanics and effects, including health packs/cache dropping from dead enemies and the CRT-turning-off effect, appear even in the "Real World."
- A version of the Saints from later down the time stream mastered being able to teleport stuff across the universe with the Zin tech....and swapped earth's location with the Zin Homeworld at the last second.
- That, or it was destroyed, but the Saints were able to restore it with the Zin's technology. After all, Zinyak promised that he could rebuild the world and reincarnate all of it's inhabitants if Keith David agreed to betray the Saints, and kill the Boss. Even if it would have been a moment of him saying "I Lied" if Keith accepted, Zin technology would probably be advanced enough that it would have been plausible to develop a "restore planet device" about a few years down the road, especially with GageteerGeniuses Kinzie and Matt working on them (plus all the other assorted HistoricalDomainCharacters who were also abducted/cloned by the Zin).
- There Lies Unused/Cut Content in the saints-row 4 Data Regarding Donnie, Lin, and William Sharp. All three have Unused Audio Logs, Homie lines when Called, and even have Working Models that can be added with Mods (Sharp however seems to use a placeholder as he looks abit like the congress men from the first mission) and Donnie uses a Matrix outfit with a purple shirt as if he joined the saints instead of his Racer/Mechanic look,It Could however be his Superpower-Homie Costume, next thing is, all three were main characters in Saints row 1 Rollerz arc, so the DLC could be about saving Donnie from his simulation were he has to relive Lin's Death. after all, the audio logs states how he escaped it and works for the boss now.
- Confirmed-ish; Donnie plays a minor role (mostly as the Butt-Monkey again) in Enter the Dominatrix.
- It also fits with the fact that CID's sidequests include the Genkibowl ones. In fact, I got that dialogue from the commentators as CID's very last sidequest.
- The Saints have done zombies before. They've also done pathos. So how do they get to Banoi? Thanks to messing with time they end up in Sainthaven, Australia, an offshoot of Sydney. Aside from Boss thinking that's the coolest city name ever because survivors had escaped only to turn out they are infected the plague begins spreading across the city. The police are not able to deal with it. The Saints though are, however due to playing through time the only special abilities they have are individual fury modes or a Limit Break. So they have to shoot, stab and melee the zombies in gory ways that makes Dead Island look like Bananas In Pyjamas.
- Lin and Carlos anyone?
- This may actually be confirmed since there are audio logs of both Donnie and Lin hidden in SR 4's game files.
- Given the circumstances of Oleg's death - blown up with Earth and there was no one currently living to see him die for their memories to get affected - grabbing him is very unlikely to cause a time paradox. There's no reason they can't go back and get him seconds before the planet goes up.
Just Throwing it out here, It's said that ETD happens in an alternative Zin Invasion storyline, Where the Saints are trapped in a simulation ran by an AI program known as the Dominatrix. so there is open room for the chance to Meet the King, Bonus Points if we find out that the King is Cid and Twice the Points if Cid is a Raptor.
If the boss hadn't chosen to do the loyalty missions, Zinjai will simply travel back in time, tell Zinyak that not only Gat, but also boss and perhaps Kinzie needs to be removed from the equation - then they will succeed in taking Earth.
- Alternately, after taking a beating from Gat, Zinyak teleported straight to his time machine and headed back. The reason he couldn't do that when the Boss started beating on him (and thus had to rely on his giant mech) was because Kinzie and King's plan to destabilize the simulation had also damaged the time machine and he wouldn't have been able to fix it quickly enough to escape from a power-armored badass whose Voice with an Internet Connection friend could track his every move.
- A smear campaign against the Boss stated that the world would be destroyed if s/he got elected.
- The Boss ran as candidate of the "Ain't No Party Like A 3rd Street Saints" party.
- After getting the simulation up and running and testing it on Zinjai, he decided to go through it himself, just to prove to the Empire and himself that his mind was unbreakable. Unfortunately for him, his nightmare involved seeing his empire crushed and ultimately being murdered by puny humans, and Zinjai sabotaged the machine so that he'd fall victim to Your Mind Makes It Real.
- This makes sense if you take the Dance Party Ending and Enter the Dominatrix as depicted; Zinyak is just an actor playing his part (whether in a suit or an actual alien) and otherwise gets along with the crew. To go with the below, Saints Row V could be the rise of The Boss to the actual Presidency.
- Or, adding onto that, Zinyak never destroyed ANY Earth at ALL. The only proof we had showing it to be Earth was the call to Oleg and Josh, which could have easily been faked thanks to the Zin's mastery of the Simulation, and the word of Zinyak himself, who is, quite bluntly, a liar. Plus, Zinyak DOES have a bit of an obsession with Earth culture, primarily literature. Why blow up the Earth then? It's likely that Zinyak found a planet that was Earth-like, and destroyed it to try and make the Saints lose the will to fight... only for it to have the exact opposite effect, and galvanized them into fighting harder. Everything he says about Earth being destroyed and his promises to restore it are just psychological mind games, attempting to goad the Saints into making mistakes.