Phillipe Loren was a benefactor in Julius' betrayal of the original Saints.
Dex is the leader of the STAG (Special Anti Tactical Gang) in Saints Row 3This is more of a Wild Mass Hope, I Really hate Dex at the moment, since he attempted to kill Julius and Boss. Another thing that supports this theory is that Boss at the end of Corporate Warfare vows to track Dex down when he flees to another city, the city that Dex is hiding in could be Steelport
S.T.A.G. is a State Sec military group that was set-up to counter gang activity.Come on, what other kind of organization would have laser-armed VTO Ls? The directors have pretty much confirmed this anyways. Furthermore, This Troper predicts that the next step of tropedom will continue into Saints Row 4. In SR 2 it was a Mega Corp., SR 3 is a State Sec, so logically SR 4 will have a N.G.O. Superpower as one of the enemies.
Kinzie Kensington will turn out to be an Expy of Harleen QuinzelMore of a WMG until more details come out but basically switch Arkaham Asylum psychiatrist treating The Joker with F.B.I. Agent investigating the Saints and they seem to be very similar.
Donnie will be in the Deckers.Think about it. The Decker's gang color? Blue. Their choice of vehicles? Tuners and speed bikes.
Gat will survive I'm Free - Free FallingIt will seem like he died and he won't appear until the final mission set where he will show up, in perfect health, to save The Boss from a bad case of Cutscene Incompetence. The Boss' response? Either "I fucking knew it!" or "It's about fucking time".
Near the start of the mission Deckers.DieKinzie didn't make the Boss' avatar a toilet or sex toy by accident. She's being passive aggressive over Boss' sarcastic "Great plan Kinzie" at the start of the mission.
Oleg Kirlov is the grandson or great-grandson of Heavy Weapons Guy.They're both massive bald Russian men who wield miniguns and frequently take down enemies with their bare hands. Furthermore, they're both quite intelligent; Heavy Weapons Guy has a Ph.D in Russian literature, while Oleg is the only one who understands Kinzie's Techno Babble and regularly plays chess against Pierce. Furthermore, they're both completely crazy: Heavy Weapons Guy is a Blood Knight who treats his guns like women, while Oleg thinks nothing of tackling an in-flight VTOL jet fighter to serve as just a distraction. The Heavy wore either red or blue, while Oleg wears purple. The only big differences are that Oleg is much faster and more relaxed in disposition. The fact the player character can be voiced by The Medic also makes this theory more amusing, in this troper's opinion.
Phillipe Loren is the Spy.Oh for CRYING OUT LOUD, why didn't ANYBODY see this already?!?! They're both chain-smokers, they're both snappy dressers, they both like knives, and they're both French (Belgian!! Whatever.). There's also a reasonable age-gap (give or take the life extending machines) to show the Spy of The Sixties become Phillipe Twenty Minutes into the Future. Phillipe's gang is even colored RED, (while a supporting gang is colored BLUE), and that their main source of income is weapons-dealing: something he may have done with the fall of RED, BLU, and Mann Co. Assuming cloning IS a part of TF2, then the Brute cloners were probably a hastily rigged substitute until they worked out the kinks.
In 'Gangstas In Space' that isn't Killbane at the end.It's an actor playing him.
Before the start of Saints Row 3, The Syndicate captured and replaced Gat and Shaundi with clonesBasing this on two different steps:
-Personality wise, Shaundi is completely different. She stopped smoking Pot, doesn't appear to want to sleep around much, and has lost her Fun Personified personality. Its possible that the Shaundi clone once got high during her impersonation, blabbed about her clone status, and while everyone thought it was just mindless babble, she realized that she needs to be careful to keep her identity, and stopped smoking pot. Because of the stress from going cold turkey, she became bitchier which lead to her new personality and clothing style. The reason she wanted to hunt them down so much was that they were supposed to allow her to return instead of her escape with the Boss, which caused her to believe Loren had abandoned her and killed the Gat clone, whom she was close to on the grounds they were both secret clones.
-SR 3 Gat being a clone is a theory many have had, but the fact he Got killed by The Morning Star thugs offscreen when in the previous game he took on the ENTIRE Stillwater police force and won is enough to prove this isn't the same Gat. There's also the fact that the Zombie Gat homie runs around like an idiot hitting things with his bare hands instead of using his brain and picking up a gun (like other zombie homies in previous games), similar to the Oleg clones, along with the fact the zombie Gat lacks any visible gunshot wounds, implying it died of some other cause. In the second mission, when Gat dies it was actually them shooting the radio to make it sound like he died, before then tossing him out of the plane since he had outlived his usefulness later, where he landed near the area that soon became home to those zombies, resulting in him rising, covered in blood from his landing.
The entire third game was an in-universe filmIts a common fan-theory and in all fairness, best way to explain so many bad decisions and ideas in the plot. Pierce wrote the script, its why he gets more respect this time around and Shaundi acts so mean and unlikable this time. Love the game, but the plot is so weak. A DLC pack or even Saints Row 4 will be about the film's financier, Ultor, deciding they want the money they spent making it back, resulting in the Saints having to fight them off again.
Shaundi stopped smoking pot......and started doing coke when the Saints got rich and famous. Consider how relaxed and chill she was in SR 2, to how strung-out and stressed she is in SR 3.
Josh Birk plays Johnny Gat in Gangsta in SpaceSomebody's got to play him.
Dex will become the President of the United States
Female Latin Boss is the true Boss character
We'll still be seeing The Syndicate in the upcoming games/DLC
A future DLC could be about how Shaundi, Viola, and Burt Reynolds survived
Johnny Gat died because he was suffering from Badass Decay
Johnny Gat knew he was going to die.
Phillipe Loren will turn out to be the Big Bad of Saints Row 3
Shaundi's Ex in Steelport is Professor GenkiOne of the loading screens features Professor Genki sitting down and watching television in what looks like Shaundi's Ex's Apartment. Considering all the people Shaundi's been with...
Shaundi's personality in the Third is her true personality.After mystery Steelport adventures, she started using drugs and sex as a coping mechanism to deal with her anger issues and possible depression, which is where she is in 2. After getting kidnapped by Veteran Child, she gets Nailedtothe Wagon by Boss and the Saints (which explains her increased competence in the rest of the Samedi missions) and is slowly forced to detox over the years between 2 and the Third. This results in a return to her original state, albeit aggravated by the general crappiness of the Saints' Row world and the supposed death of Johnny Gat. In the fourth game, she'll have finished her detox and potentially gone to therapy and mellowed out again.
The cannon ending is the one where Shaundi dies.Since the Saints Row games have not so far bothered with with any saved game import feature, there will likely only be one canonical ending Saints Row 4 can incorporate and this will be the independent Steelport ending.
Both endings of the 3rd game are canon to an extentThe Boss chooses to save Shaundi, which results in STAG being forced to withdraw from Steelport. Before Cyrus walks away, he tells the Saints that he will not hesitate to attack if the Saints misbehave, regardless of public opinion. While Killbane got away, he can not run forever, and eventually the Saints track him down and eliminate him. Sometime later, the Saints are celebrating their victory, when STAG attacks with the Daedalus. Cyrus used Killbane's death as an excuse for the attack, much like he used Jessica's death as an excuse for STAG's occupation of Steelport. Naturally the Boss destroys the Daedalus and kills Cyrus, and the Saints set out to build a new empire for the next game. ** Basically the good ending where Shaundi Viola and Burt Fucking Reynolds live, and instead of Steelport becoming a state sec Boss become President.
The Save Shaundi/Gangstas in Space ending is a recurring dream that the Protagonist has.After killing Killbane and letting Shaundi and Viola die. His mind created this outcome to escape the guilt of letting so many of his friends die. Think about how he faces off with Kia and he asserts that the Saints never leave anyone behind. Kia starts listing all the people who have died and the Protagonist just tells her to shut up. Think about how surreal everything becomes from there. He saves the day with farts in a jar and STAG is called off forever. Then the completed gang, including Johnny Gat (or at least an expy) happily produce a campy space movie together where the Protagonist shouts things like, "I'll never betray my friends!" It's all the absurdity in the game kicked up a notch.
Angel has lost a little... more than his mask.Even writing off his training regime for the boss as just some manner of testosterone poisoned lucha madness ("a fucking tiger?!"), Angel seems to have a very warped view of how the world works. This mostly comes out when he suggests de-masking Killbane over killing him outright. He's so lost in his luchadore-centric world that he think taking his mask will destroy him. Instead, even just beating WITHOUT taking his mask drives him to launch a city-wide war. Surely Killbane's old partner would know him well enough to know where they'd land between "shamed to death" and "start wars".
Killbane has Feet of Clay.
The "Concerned in Steelport" assassination client is Gat.
Kia is Aisha's sister. This may sound crazy, but bear with me: during her Motive Rant against the Boss in her final battle, she claims that the Boss does nothing but let their friends die on them: however, her knowledge seems oddly specific on how she directly calls out the lieutenants by name. True, Aisha was a famous pop-start, and Johnny Gat's death was spammed all over the news in The Third, but Lin and Carlos were killed off in Saints Row 1 and Saints Row 2, and didn't come close to achieving the notoriety of the current Saints. This means that Kia knew about them from the founding days of the Third Street Saints. Now, why does this lead to her being Aisha's sister? Well, in one of the first missions of the game, you're tasked with saving Aisha's sister (who is The Unnamed) from being forced to be a Vice Kings Sex Slave. She was Put on a Bus afterwards, and probably would've been the last we would've seen of her, except one of the possible conversations with Kia while impersonating Cyrus Temple implies she loved Aisha's music, and that Aisha's murder was what drove her to law enforcement. On top of this Freudian Excuse for wanting the Boss dead, Kia sounds a LOT like Aisha, doesn't it?
Zimos, his work and sexual slaveryWarning, this might be stating the obvious. Zimos is stated to be a pimp, but he's portrayed in a very sympathetic manner, which has made me think about his business. I'm almost certain, without explicitly knowing, that prostitution is legal in the Steelport, maybe even USA, of the game. My theory: The women working for Zimos, do so for their own free will, either because they like the job or because they can't get a better job, and they'd prefer it to being unemployed. He allows his employees to unionize, so they most likely get a decent part of the cut from the money they make, and working for Zimos allows them to get more money, because the man has contacts. I also guess that they can walk away from the job without trouble, and if there's a client they refuse to serve, they're free to do so. In short, as close to a regular job as sex trade can possibly be. The title "pimp" simply sounds good to Zimos.