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I’m not sure if this really counts but wouldn’t the “love nectar” jokes in Shimoneta fall under this? Considering that Anna’s voice actress died of cervical complications... (I don’t remember exactly how she passed but all i know is that it had something to do with that)
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Most of these examples seem like very far stretches to be considered 'funny aneurysm moments'. At best, they're vaguely ironic, at worst, they're just the views of a minority of tropers passed through without a check.
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No, I completely agree. Even for a YMMV, this article is a minefield of smug subjectivity. The Simpsons subarticle is especially egregious and way too long; there's one reference to 9/11 and the rest is repetitive snark about the bad old days when people didn't know that being less-than-serious about racism, gay rights, gun violence, bullying, or George W. Bush's presidency was an evil thing to do. You can practically hear the axe on the stone. Worse yet, almost none of the jokes have more than a tangential relationship to the specific tragedy they're being associated with.
YMMV will be YMMV, but I think the whole point of a Funny Aneurysm is that it is a widespread sentiment; I'd like to see a standard of "was shelved temporarily/permanently or selectively edited in light of the new event(s)" applied to all of these. That at least indicates that there was a significant enough outcry that the studio execs were willing to censor the material over it. It would chop down a lot of the random subjective crap and leave the truly universal examples.
If we leave it as "a bad thing happened and thus any joke ever made that shares a vague association with that thing in my subjective opinion is officially unfunny forever", the article's going to continue to suck.
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It doesn't look like much is going to happen. Even with the stipulations in the description, you get (among other things) absolutely anything containing airplanes and a pair of objects being linked to 9/11 (like Atari 2600 Combat under Video Games), not to mention endless reiterations of "something bad happened to this character and YEARS LATER something unrelated bad happened to the actor!"
It honestly reminds me of the "death comes in threes" superstition (150,000+ people die every day) and the old chain letters that threatened you with curses if you didn't forward them (with anything bad ever happening in someone's life at any future point being cited as "the curse").
I think having the guideline be a reaction from the creator — editing the material, pulling it from distribution, etc. — is a good one, and would give this trope some actual meaning.
In the Riff Trax LIVE of Sharknado 2, the Riffers get audibly and understandably awkward at the cameo appearance of one Jared Fogle, since his scandal happened not a week or two before the presentation. Would this fall under Film or Other?
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Is there a trope for "Humdrum In Hindsight?" For example, something that was put in a movie to appear odd or elite, but decades later becomes commonplace.
For example pretty much every mobile phone in every 80s movie ever. Or the scene in Breakfast Club where Claire is having sushi. Anyone not from the 80s won't understand that was intended to add to her portrayal as elite and upper class. These days you can get sushi rolls at the average supermarket deli shelf.
For an older example, there's a subtext in Boeing,Boeing that the introduction of jet airplanes causes flights to take much less time, wreaking havoc on the main character's carefully scheduled love quadrangle. In modern times, jet flight is commonplace, so the impact of the distinction is lost.
I guess this would just fall back to Time Marches On, but it seems like there ought to be a "was special, isn't special anymore" subtrope.
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Would Bomb Voyage, the bomb-themed French villain from The Incredibles, be considered a Funny Aneurysm after the terrorist attacks in Paris this year?
Watching The Incredibles again after Bataclan feels really awkward whenever he shows up.
Edited by starkillerrx "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Douglas Adams
I was searching for Bug Martini comics for a while. One of my favorites, is called Bucket List, where the main character says what does he want to do before die. The second and third panel are about bad puns and immature answers, but the last panel is quite unnerving right now. In the last panel, the protagonist says his last wish: Visite/Attack France. The main character admires de Eiffel tower while he sets a French person into flames. And then, November 13th, 2015, a terrorist group attack Paris, France, who left over 120 deads and a lot of injuried people.
Here is the link to the comic.
Sorry for my broken english.
http://www.bugmartini.com/comic/bucket-list/
Recently, I was watching reruns of Californication and was struck by a rather off-color joke made in Season 5, episode 5: "The Ride Along". In that episode, Hank, Charlie, and Samurai Apocalypse (a black rapper/former gangster) are doing research for Samurai's upcoming movie "Santa Monica Cop" by accompanying a real police officer (a white guy, played by Bryan Callen) on patrol that night. Samurai Apocalypse asks the cop if he has ever shot anybody before, and his response is as follows:
- Cop: Just once. Kind of a sad story, actually. It was a little kid. I mean - I thought the kid had a gun, turns out it was an iPod Touch
Samurai Apocalypse: Bet he was black. Was he black?
Cop: Of course he was black. Why do you think I shot first?
It is later revealed that the officer was just joking about that and had never actually shot anyone, but this episode aired in 2012, two years before the shooting of Michael Brown touched off massive protests across the United States concerning police brutality and racial profiling, and in particular, a short time before Tamir Rice was shot in Cleveland under very similar circumstances (November 2014). Given these criteria, does this incident count as a Funny Aneurysm moment or a Harsher in Hindsight moment?
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I'm not sure if this is a Funny Aneurysm Moment or not, so I thought I'd leave it here and see what you all think.
There's a scene in the The West Wing where President Bartlet tells Sam Seaborn that he'll run for president someday. Seaborn's actor, Rob Lowe, later went on to play John F. Kennedy in Killing Kennedy. This might be a funny aneurysm because Bartlet certainly didn't mean to say "you're going to get assassinated."
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That seems really weak to me.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Since this involves tragedies, which are often deaths, shouldn't it allow unmarked spoilers? Harsher in Hindsight does.
Do those annoying "quotation marks" really necessary? Can't we just remove it?
I know it's the explanation for the trope name, but there's a MAJOR Buffy spoiler in the description. Is it ok to put spoiler markers in the trope description, or should that part be deleted?
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Spoilers in descriptions are not okay. It should be removed.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
I went and changed it. I left in the (not really a spoiler) first bit (that it comes from the phrase "I hope it's a funny aneurysm") since that doesn't really spoil much, and is useful to establishing the name, along with a mention that you can read the full example on the LATV page.
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Well, first of all, like the guy two below this post I think we should have a type I and type II. Second, I know it's a YMMV trope but people seem to be misusing it to not be about tragedies. For example, the Simpsons page has that Ringo Star decides to read all his fan mail, and later in real life decides to stop reading fan mail. That hardly seems like it belongs in the same category as "joke is made about the World Trade Center and 9/11 happens" or "joke is made about a celebrity dying and they die the same way in real life"
Don't tell me to go to the trope repair shop, there's still open threads from October so who knows when this would be sorted out
Can someone explain the difference between this and Harsher in Hindsight?
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Harsher in Hindsight is when something that was okay-to-bad is considered worse because of mroe recent events. "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is when something that was meant as a joke is considered bad or worse because of recent events.
Put it like this...
If a couple years ago, one of those crime shows had done an episode on a school shooting in a grade school, it would be Harsher in Hindsight because of the events in Sandy Hook.
But the joke in Wrongfully Accused where Leslie Nielsen pulls a grade-school-aged kid aside and finds the backpack full of guns is a "Funny Aneurysm" Moment because of those same events.
Can we give 9/11 its own page? There's tons of examples on most pages relating to it.
Considering what happened recently in Japan, would this be considered a Funny Aneurysm Moment?
http://artoftrolling.memebase.com/2011/03/18/pokemon-troll-its-super-effective/
No. A "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has to happen before the event that makes it cringeworthy. This was someone making a joke directly about the earthquake and tsunami.
That's just Dude, Not Funny!.
A "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is one that's meant to be funny at the time, a better example would be a tsunami in a cartoon headed for Japan from the 90s. Dude, Not Funny! is when someone plays something for laughs that shouldn't be, this one was about the earthquake after the fact, not a joke about something like it beforehand.
I believe this article should be split, as there are two distinct types of example:
Type I: Something funny is made morbid due to events that later occurred in real life. Type II: Something funny is made morbid due to events that later occurred in the plot of the show itself.
I think these are two distinct tropes. Type I can never have been intentional, whereas Type II (I suspect) frequently are - even if it wasn't intentional when the funny thing was written, I suspect that the morbid events are often written with the previous funny event in mind (for example, I suspect the Trope Namer of being a deliberate reference to earlier in the series).
I think we should keep "Funny Aneurysm" Moment to refer to Type I Is, and use the alt-name suggested above, Morbid In Hindsight, to refer to Type Is. What do people think?
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Slightly less work: sort all examples by type and create Type I and Type II sections in each subpage.
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It refers to the Fred from "Sanford and Son" who would always fake having a heart attack to get out from under pressure of any sort. Naturally, Redd Foxx (the actor) died of a heart attack in real life later, making all those scenes very ironic. Worse, because of his role, no one believed it was a real attack initially, which may have sealed his fate.
I think we also need an explanation for Rock Hudson, Woody and Mia, and Taylor and Burton or to cut them out. I got the Woody and Mia real life drama, but I've never seen "Husbands and Wives" to properly explain the contrast, and I didn't recognize the other three. (Some reading of The Other Wiki helps with the other three, which are all pretty dated references, but I'm not sure how these are examples of being unfunny in retrospect as opposed to just having ironic contrast. At least Woody Allen's movie was a comedy.)
Merged with Harsher in Hindsight per TRS:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1642177581000742900&page=3#comment-58
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