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May 27th 2016 at 10:44:55 AM •••

Just did a major update. Added a bunch of characters, focusing on some of the more obscure vampires from the short stories and comics, the alphas, a few groups that hadn't been written up yet (Svartalves, Streetwolves, Monoc), the private detectives Vince Graver and Nick Christian, and the Fomor. I'm not as familiar with some of the character tropes, though, so while the names are on the list now, there's probably some tropes that need to be added.

Dec 17th 2014 at 10:14:38 AM •••

Does Molly not have a character page? I can't seem to find it if she does. Admittedly, where her actual page would go keeps changing.

Mar 4th 2014 at 8:31:33 AM •••

Regarding spoilers on these pages. A lot of the entries violate policy left and right, with spoilers above the example line, trope names tagged, and entire entries tagged. Considering that this series is mostly linear, with only a few spin-offs, I think it might be best to just remove all tags from all the pages, and add big spoiler warnings at the top of every page. The other option is to remove all spoiler tags except for the most recent book (Cold Days at the moment; Skin Game, as an unreleased book, shouldn't be here yet).

Either way, I definitely don't want to do anything drastic, so I decided to bring it up here first.

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Apr 27th 2014 at 1:20:29 PM •••

Bump. This is important, as Skin Game comes out in a month. Here's my vote: We hold off on the spoiler cleanup until May 26th (the day before it comes out). Then, on that day, we use the spoiler tag remover to remove all tags from the pages, with a warning added to the top of every page saying that only spoilers for the most recent book (Skin Game) will be unmarked. That way we don't have to sift through the tags as much. Sound good?

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May 25th 2014 at 12:30:59 PM •••

Bump again. If there's no discussion, I'm gonna do this tomorrow.

Dec 28th 2011 at 7:10:57 PM •••

Okay, so there's a problem with Priscilla. As written, the entry for the character basically spoils the major plot of the book, since all the trope entries refer to the Skavis-ness, so if we keep the name, it'll be a huge giveaway even with the spoiler tags in his description.



A member of the Ordo Lebes who shows up in White Night Aka the scion to House Skavis as well as the original killer of a number of women with magical talent in an effort to set up a coup against the White King. Currently the only member of House Skavis to be shown in the series aside from his father.

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Dec 29th 2011 at 10:55:15 AM •••

IIRC, the Skavis' name is actually mentioned in the book. I went rooting around for his name but couldn't find it.

Dec 29th 2011 at 11:10:20 AM •••

I checked the RPG sourcebook, but it didn't have a name other than Priscilla either. Maybe we could change the entry's name to "The Skavis", and have Priscilla in spoilers. If Priscilla is going to be the name up top, we need to find and add more tropes that apply to the persona, otherwise it's going to be really obvious, and spoil the reveal in the book.

Jul 22nd 2011 at 2:08:39 AM •••

On the Light Is Not Good example, I wanted to post this:

"There's also the fact that we really haven't seen a whole lot of him. We saw him in Small Favor, where he told Dresden about how God apparently already helped him (Dresden) by giving him Soulfire, "The Warrior," where he told Dresden about all the good effect that he's had on the world around him, and Changes, where he gave Dresden a true image of his daughter, but said that other than that, his hands are tied. Three books, and all appearances were less than a couple pages. His speech about how angels see the world differently than humans seems to put him in Blue-and-Orange Morality than anything else."

After I was done, I figured I should probably run it through the discussion page first.

Penny for your thoughts. ~Seiryu

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Jul 27th 2011 at 1:34:28 PM •••

Ghost Story shows that Uriel is honestly a good guy, but his mandate limits him solely to defending free will. He outright says that there are a number of cosmic laws that restrict him from acting further.

Jun 1st 2011 at 8:50:29 PM •••

I've added a large number of major and minor characters that needed to be included, along with a bunch that weren't listed. All of the major Denarians that I could think off, all of the major SI/regular cops (Rudolph, Tilly, Rawlins, and Stallings) some of the White Court (Madaline, Madrigal, Vittorio) as well as Lily and Binder. The sections probably need some serious expansion though.

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Dec 31st 2012 at 12:34:20 PM •••

As of Cold Days, I think that the Summer and Winter Mothers need entries, given the new information we have about them.

May 19th 2011 at 6:07:59 AM •••

I know that Complete Monster is a YMMV, but considering the monsterous things the villains in question do (Tessa caused the Rwanda Genocide for shits and giggles, the red king created a system that retards economic growth in south and central america to use it as his playground while simultaneously committing abominable crimes to women and children for millenia, while the skinwalker is literally so god damned evil that it naturally knows how to hurt people best, while nicodemus tortured a girl by leavingher naked in the cold in a spinning ball surrounded by demomic guard dogs) the label actually does apply fairly well here.

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May 20th 2011 at 11:24:08 AM •••

I would be inclined to agree, but others will fight you on it. If you want, I'd take all those cut examples and put them on the YMMV page like

etc. It'll be long, but the trope applies.

May 20th 2011 at 11:51:19 AM •••

The problem is, there has to be consistency. If you allow one on a main page, then someone will wonder why it's not allowed on another main page.

May 20th 2011 at 3:20:26 PM •••

zepyr's idea is the best one I think.

Jun 1st 2011 at 8:46:16 PM •••

I've cut the YMMV tropes. Feel free to put them on the YMMV page.

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