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themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
1st Jun, 2023 10:20:12 AM

This sounds like an unclear name issue, which would in turn be a TRS issue. While I like the current name, if it's contributing to misuse it needs to go. I don't think just clean-up will do—renaming the trope may cut down on misuse.

First though, you'll need to do a wick check.

  • How to Do a Wick Check and the Wick Check Project thread — the former tells you, well, how to do a wick check, and the latter can give you help with actually doing the wick check. In this case, you'd need to check 50 wicks.
  • Once a wick check is done, and if misuse is proven, just put your prospective thread on the TRS Queue, and you'll be pinged/your thread launched (depending on which you prefer) once your slot is reached.

Is there anything you need clarification on? Or do you not want to take it to TRS?

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VintageEmma Since: Jan, 2023
1st Jun, 2023 10:37:26 AM

As a Canadian myself, I also think the description is a bit too Americentric as if to tell American users that "yes, Canadian characters up north are weird and nothing like us", which is just perpetuating a gross stereotype about Canadians in general.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
1st Jun, 2023 10:49:41 AM

I mean... that's the trope, though. The trope is "a gross stereotype about Canadians in general", especially regarding how American media portrays them.

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GalaxyLight777 Since: Jun, 2017
1st Jun, 2023 10:51:13 AM

@themayorofsimpleton I don't think I need any clarification, though I rarely ever participate in trope-correcting/clean-up, nor instigating discussions on said topics (first time for everything?), so I'm not 100% certain if I will take it to TRS.

But with the unclear name issue and instances of possible misuse, I may bring up the issues with Canada Eh to some other tropers in the relevant threads to at least spread awareness of this and get some discussion going.

@WarJay77 Actually, about that, I've seen the trope linked to entries that outright state that the work was made in Canada (though, often failing to detail how the trope applies).

Edited by GalaxyLight777 "I know we'll make it cause somehow, the universe is fun now!" ~Sana
themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
1st Jun, 2023 10:58:41 AM

Related to Jay's comment, I brought up TRS because if the trope is "stereotype about Canadians" and the use is "anything that happens to be Canadian", that's a possible TRS issue assuming the name is the issue.

I may do a wick check myself sometime to see if that's the use.

^ That's fine. I think I may actually TRS this sometime if my aforementioned wick check proves a problem.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
1st Jun, 2023 11:01:06 AM

^^ I mean, sure, but that's not correct usage. The trope is about Canadian stereotypes, and these are stereotypes, and it's not gonna be nearly as likely for Canadian productions to use these stereotypes unless they're riffing on them, much like how an American work isn't going to use the blonde, gun-obsessed, flag-wearing stereotype of Anime (and if it does, it will be one super conservative character out of a whole cast).

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themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
1st Jun, 2023 11:10:23 AM

Letting it be known that I've started the Canada Eh Wick Check. Only one correct use so far out of 5—I will continue later.

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Yindee Since: Jul, 2016
themayorofsimpleton (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
1st Jun, 2023 05:51:15 PM

Noting here that I, Yindee, and 𝕋𝕒𝕓𝕤 completed the check. There was enough misuse for a rename—I put it on the TRS Queue myself with an OP I wrote up.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
1st Jun, 2023 05:58:59 PM

I will just say that this sounds like the same issue that was plaguing Welcome to the Caribbean, Mon! (and Hula and Luaus) that I suspect is a broader issue with Hollywood Atlas and National Stereotypes tropes. FWIW, I took both of those tropes to TRS; the former was redirected to UsefulNotes.The Caribbean and the latter was slightly rewritten and cleaned.

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GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
2nd Jun, 2023 02:28:32 AM

This conversation belongs in Trope Talk, not ATT. Locking so it can be taken to the proper place.

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