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You know what, I think he might. I don't remember him having any redeeming qualtities, and sending humanity to the Dark Ages is probably bad enough. I'll have an EP of him sometime later.

Also, the reason why I didn't think Darkseid counted was because Brainiac seemed way worse with around the same resouces.

Edited by falcontalons on Apr 22nd 2019 at 3:34:20 AM

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So Darkseid's outheinoused (A Rare Sentence), while Brainiac's basically a GDV (A Rare Sentence)?

Yeah, that sums it up about right.

Actually, it seems to also apply if one villain is just really, really, evil(I'm referring to Jigsaw and Kreigkopf). I think if you have more lower-level villains, that means there are more villains to stand out against.

Edited by falcontalons on Apr 22nd 2019 at 3:58:55 AM

From what I understand The thing about how "there's a point where Recources stop mattering" is for when a franchise has NUMEROUS Uber Evil charachters like DBZ or Doctor who.

On the 2003 Teen Titans YMMV we have an Omnicidal Maniac Multiversal Conqueror Next to a Sadistic Terrorist.

Edited by Kylotrope on Apr 22nd 2019 at 3:57:33 AM

Ultra-Humanite

Setne

I love when those contrasts happen.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Apr 22nd 2019 at 5:56:26 AM

Humanite

I don’t think anyone noticed my post, which is understandable, this being an thread and all, so let me re post.

Hey guys, there’s an certain video game villain that i’m considering on Effort posting: Quinking from Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan. Has he been discussed before, if not, i’ll gladly go for it, after all, I used to play the Ty games ALOT when I was younger.

Ultra-Humanite

Go for it.

Ok.

to Setne and Humanite (also, has anyone reserved the new She-Ra for discussion yet?)

Oh, Mir and I did s1 actually.

Here is the 2nd candidate from Superman & Batman: Generations.

Who is he? What does he do?

In 1929, Lex Luthor(under the identity of Rex Thorul), was previously working for a scientist named Dr. Erwin Stanislaus. However, Lex Luthor has betrayed him since and has constructed a robot to wreck havoc in the city. Superboy and Robin(Bruce Wayne as a teen) stop it before it kills too many people, find Lex Luthor disguised as the professor, and take him in to prison.

In 1939, Lex Luthor is seen again, but he is just a henchman of the Ultra-Humanite. As I said before in the previous effortpost, Superman throws the Hyperglobe at the Humanite's rocket, destroying it, and the Ultra-Humanite and Lex Luthor swap brains.

In 2008, Lex Luthor wakes up to find that he is in a brain in a robot's body, runs out of the building, and begins attacking the city. Knight-Wing(Clark Wayne, son of Joel and a woman named Mei-Lai) flies to stop him, and Lex(now calling himself Metallo) tries to weaken him using Kryptonite. However, it doesn't affect Knight-Wing as much as it does Superman, and Knight-Wing, along with several other superheroes, defeat him. Lex Luthor does manage to cause a blackout in Metropolis with an EMP, though.

In 2025, Lex Luthor escapes from prison and detonates another, much larger EMP, causing technology to fail worldwide and hundreds of millions of people to die. It takes a while for society to make new technology that can adjust to the conditions(the EMP altered the electromagnetic fields of the Earth).

In the 25th century, Lex Luthor is freed again, goes to the Superman Museum, and plants an atomic bomb. He also uploads his brain to to the A.I. in the museum, planning to gain control of every computer grid on the planet. Fortunately, Green Lantern contains the bomb safely and Lex is stopped.

Unfortunately, Lex Luthor succeeds in gaining control of every grid on the planet and wages war on humanity. One day, he blankets the entire world with Kryptonite radiation, killing Clark Wayne and Lois(Clark Wayne's daughter). Eventually, Lana(Clark Wayne's other daughter) and Batman, who is given superpowers, battle and defeat Lex once and for all together after isolating his intellect in a single network.

Heinous standard?

After consideration, I think he manages to pass. Sending human civilization back to the Dark Ages is unique for the setting, and many, many people die as a result. Starting a war against humanity is also pretty bad.

Mitigating factors? Freudian excuse?

None. He does proclaim that "the whole world is going to pay for his pain" after being released in the 25th century, but he was already evil beforehand.

Conclusion?

I would give him a yes.

Edited by falcontalons on Apr 22nd 2019 at 5:19:41 AM

Luthor.

Found an image for Captain Vidal by the way.

On Second thought, the image's resolution does kina suck.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 22nd 2019 at 8:17:18 AM

No on that image.

Yes to Luthor and Ultra-Humanite.

Yes to Luthor and another version of the Ultra-Humanite after the Elseworlds version I got who was bros with Hitler.

to Luthor.

Maybe find a better version of that image?

Lex

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Humanite.

Alright, let's get this over with.

What's the Work?

The Goblin Wars, by Kersten Hamilton, is a fantasy trilogy centered around a teenage girl, Teagan Wylltson, who discovers that she and her brother Aiden are half-goblins. Joined by their distant cousin Finn Mac Cumhaill (who Teagan forms a romantic relationship with), Teagan finds her family and loved ones threatened by goblinkind, led by the goblin god himself....Fear Doirich.

Who Is He?

The Dark Man, Fear Doirich is a Fallen Angel and the creator and "god" of the goblins, aka Sidhe, creatures that he cobbled together from various worlds. Long in the past, Fear Doirich, alongside his wife Mab, Queen of the Sidhe, gathered his forces and invaded what would come to be known as Ireland, driving the Fire Bolg back into Mag Mell, the sentient hidden "world-between-worlds'. He ruled over Ireland for centuries until the sons of men, the Milesians, came over the sea. Fear Doirich would've wiped them out had the Fire Bolg not returned and joined the Milesians in beating back the goblins, forcing them to retreat into Mag Mell. However, as an act of spite, Doirich locked the pathways into Mag Mell, forcing the Fire Bolg to roam the world forever without a home, becoming the Irish Travelers, while Doirich ruled Mag Mell, reducing it to a horrific Crapsack World overrun with his murderous creations.

Seeking vengeance on Amergin the bard, the Milesian who had driven them into Mag Mell, Mab had her sister Maeve seduce him. Maeve fell in love with him for real and they conceived two daughters, Aileen and Roisin. The goblins whisked the family into Mag Mell, and Doirich tortured and killed Amergin and Maeve, but kept the daughters alive, planning to breed a new race with them, consensual or not. They managed to flee, however, and while Aileen married and had Teagan and Aiden in the human world, Roisin hid herself in Yggdrasil, which Doirich and his shadows cannot enter due to its holiness. Meanwhile, one of the Irish Travelers, Cumhaill, ran away with the daughter of a rich man, who retaliated by making a blood covenant with Fear Doirich, who cursed the lovers to have goblins haunt them and their ancestors through all eternity. The lovers died horribly, but their son, Fionn Mac Cumhaill, was raised by a woman warrior and female Druid to fight goblins, and he struck a blow against Doirich by killing his son, Aillen the Burner. The war between the Mac Cumhaills and goblinkind intensified, with one Mac Cumhaill born each generation to fight the goblins, with the current being Finn.

In the present, Doirich sends his shadows to kill Aileen and has her husband, John, whisked into Mag Mell to be slowly tortured to death for days in order to draw Teagan in, hoping to have her take Roisin's place, whom he also intends to kill once she leaves Yggdrasil. Once he has them in his grasp, Doirich attempts to kill Aiden, but Finn intervention allows them to retaliate and subdue Doirich and his son Kyle. Though they manage to escape Mag Mell with their father, by the next book Doirich has sent his forces to torment Teagan's family and friends. His goblin forces kill multiple people for entertainment, driving Teagan to venture back into Mag Mell to pull Doirich into the human world and allow Finn's guardian angel, Raynor, to destroy him. Arriving at his kingdom in the midst of a party, whose source of entertainment consists of a "phooka" being torn to pieces by the goblins (with an iron collar around his neck specifically to prevent a quick death), Teagan nearly reaches Doirich, but at the last second chooses to save a phooka, Gil, from being killed by Mab.

In the final book, the gateway to Mag Mell threatens to open and unleash all of goblinkind. As her loved ones continue to be killed as a result of the goblins, Teagan returns to Mag Mell to put a stop to Doirich and Mab's tyranny once and for all. While Mab is killed, Doirich uses the distraction to whisk away and attempts to kill Aiden. However, he is caught in a trap and Raynor appears in a motorbike, colliding with Doirich and whisking the evil god out of existence.

Mitigating factors?

Pfffft. He never displays any care for anyone else. He and his wife Mab despise each other, with there even being a story of Mab having an affair and trying to have the resulting child buried alive, only for Doirich to have the phookas guard the child with their lives....specifically to make Mab suffer by making her watch her image grow old and die.

Heinousness

Big Bad and is responsible, directly or not, for much of the suffering in the books. There's Mab, but she has little in the way of actual screentime, and also Kyle, who's plenty nasty (for reference, he's literally Jack the Ripper), but he gets a bizarre Alas, Poor Villain death.

Final Thoughts?

Your call.

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@Kazuya

Ohhh me too.