Complete Monster Cleanup

First quote works.

Found this on https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/CantGoHomeAgain.

• Complete Monster: William Afton is a sadistic, hedonistic mass child murderer. Starting out by torturing and killing small, helpless animals as a child, he found sick pleasure in the feeling of control over them, before moving on to bullies and other children who he knew couldn't tell any adults about his behaviour: thus, he managed to paint himself as an heroic defender of the weak and pillar of his community whilst hiding his true intentions. Although his first victim is unknown, his most profilic work came years later as "The Purple Man", when he used his various businesses as cover for kidnappings, murders, unethical experimentations and a slew of other crimes. Not even getting married and having children did anything to change this, as he quickly proved himself to be mentally and physically abusive to Michael, Gabriel, Elizabeth and Marion, pushing the first to abandon the household. Upon his wife's death, he'd directly or indirectly cause the deaths of all of them and several of their friends over the following decade, only to go unpunished due to the shortcomings of the investigation team. Briefly disappearing and reappearing under a new identity, Afton would later uncerimoniously pass away, spending the remainder of his life scotfree and unpunished. ... his human life, that is: thanks to the decade of information he gathered, and the awareness that his body could've failed him, Afton figured out a way to survive that through a contraption of his own creation, not dissimilar from the animatronics he designed as head of Afton Robotics Industries. Using his newfound position, he'd go on to mentally manipulate several people to do his bidding, killing one in the process and almost causing many more to die as well. When finally confronted and given his just desserts, however, Afton not only doubled down on his personal philosophy, being unrepentant to the very end, but also had one last trick up his sleeve: disinherit Marion and make him question whether he truly was his son, leaving him with crippling doubts about his identity. Although he might finally be gone, William Afton's legacy looms like a gigantic shadow over anyone ever involved with him and his machinations, be they past, present, and future, and with the trail of blood he left behind possibly going across the entirety of the western United States, the true magnitude of his monstrous actions remains impossible to gauge.

It does not seem to be approved. From everything I've been able to read Afton should be a keeper if anyone is interested. I tried to do it myself(I am actually in the author's discord server) but I don't have the time I think and am still in the first part of the series.

Cut, PM the troper.

Yeah there's definitely a CM in this entry, it just needs an EP and formal approval.

Can't edit, so if anyone else could handle that it would be good.

BTW, guys, would you mind if I make a rewrite on Milady de Winter's entry from The Three Musketeers? Her current one is a bit too general and misses a lot of her crimes and also there is one incorrect detail that she tries to enlist d'Arthanan to kill her brother-in-law, when in fact she just goads him into a duel with d'Arthanan where she hopes that he would die. Here is her current entry:

• The mysterious, murderous Milady de Winter is one of the top agents of the visionary Cardinal Richelieu in his campaign to strengthen France and free it of foreign influence, but shares none of her employer's lofty ideals. Instead, she uses her position, resources, and quasi-supernatural beauty and charisma to indulge her limitless appetites for money, power, and indiscriminate, disproportionate revenge on anyone who gets on her bad side. Ever since her humble origins as a larcenous nun, she's targeted and seduced any sufficiently-useful man she comes across, destroying those who reject her and either killing or abandoning anyone unlucky enough to become her thrall as soon as they're no longer valuable. Her steadily-escalating battle with d'Artagnan brings out all her worst excesses, as she first tries to enlist him to kill her brother-in-law for his inheritance and a young noble for apparently turning her advances down, then, after he humiliates her, repeatedly attempts to kill him with zero regard for collateral damage, endangering and killing several innocents along the way, and finally murders his Love Interest as Revenge by Proxy whilst pretending to be her dearest friend.

And here is my proposed rewrite:

• The mysterious, murderous Milady de Winter is one of the top agents of the visionary Cardinal Richelieu in his campaign to strengthen France and free it of foreign influence, but shares none of her employer's lofty ideals. Coming from humble origins as a larcenous nun, she uses her position, resources, and quasi-supernatural beauty and charisma to indulge her limitless appetites for money, power, and indiscriminate, disproportionate revenge on anyone who gets on her bad side. She poisons her second husband, goads his brother into a duel in the hopes he dies and tries to enlist d'Arthanan to kill a young noble for apparently turning her advances down. In her quest to take revenge on d'Artagnan for humiliating her, she sends him twelve bottles of poisoned wine, supposedly from his Musketeer friends, and encourages him to throw a party for his comrades with the wine, endangering many lives. When she is imprisoned for her crimes, she seduces her jailer to free her, lies to him that Lord Buckingham raped her, so he may kill him for her, and then abandons him to be executed for the murder. Milady's darkest crime comes when she murders the young Constance Bonacieux, d'Artagnan's Love Interest, as Revenge by Proxy whilst pretending to be her dearest friend.

Edited by WatTambor on Dec 13th 2023 at 1:22:12 PM

To milady’s rewrite

Milady de Winter's rewrite.

Edited by ASghhrv6ub on Dec 13th 2023 at 8:13:21 AM

Found a quote for the "UNIT Years" Master:

Edited by Connor2107 on Dec 14th 2023 at 8:11:57 AM

If you guys only knew how many times I looked at the Godzilla page and got frustrated over Cameron Winter being the only listed monster in The Series adaptation? Seriously, words cannot begin to describe how truly grateful I am for my proposal working so well. Thanks to infinity. I truly appreciate you!

However, do you mind if I make a nitpick?

Read these two articles and see the grammatical differences between the two:

Cameron Winter takes control of Godzilla and makes him destroy properties so he can collect insurance money, even making Godzilla attack a military base and endanger the lives of 500 soldiers. Defeated by H.E.A.T., Cameron returns for revenge and creates a giant monster called the Chameleon to have it attack humans and frame Godzilla for the attacks, before having the Chameleon defeat and kill Godzilla so Cameron can be seen as a hero for creating the thing that kills Godzilla. Foiled again, Cameron breaks three men out of prison and equips them with battle mechs to kill Godzilla, ordering them to also attack H.E.A.T. and the military when they get in the way. Though the hunters are defeated, Cameron denies any connection with them and claims they stole his mechs and attacked Godzilla on their own.

"Cash of the Titans" series finale: Maxmillian Spiel is a sadistic businessman who staged illegal fighting rings using kaiju monsters for his own elitist purposes. Having turned his own private island into a fight club, Spiel forcibly enslaves Kaiju monsters using electric collars or other torturous methods, and makes them fight each other to the death for his own entertainment. Not above making these creatures fight each other senseless, Spiel also gleefully throws other humans into the rings, where he knows that the monsters would mercilessly hunt them down, having implied to have done this to any whistleblowers, rebelling workers, or even his own guards, as he had no qualms trying to leave them to die as soon as he felt that he was cornered. When the members of HEAT infiltrate his operations, he had them all trapped in his fighting ring in the hopes of killing them, and then when Godzilla showed up, he tried to turn him against HEAT as a distraction. Finally, at the end, he tries to escape after blowing up his own base, which would result in hundreds if not thousands of deaths.

I’m gonna spoil it for you, the difference is that HEAT is supposed to be H.E.A.T., as in the team acronym, for Spiel here. Now I am not blaming anyone, okay? The only crime you guys did was approve my proposal and I forgot to check my grammar in the interim. I will not make that mistake again and I take full responsibility. But in the meantime, can someone please modify the HEAT for Spiel, so that it would match Winter? Otherwise, thanks again for approving, I mean it.

Edited by Neeku-Nekku-Nakuru-Nikua on Dec 14th 2023 at 12:30:00 PM

I've made the change; it'll be swapped Monday.

Earnestly having seen the episode I'm going to challenge his listing on the trope.

The writeup has inaccuracies:

• "Cash of the Titans" series finale: Maxmillian Spiel is a sadistic businessman who staged illegal fighting rings using kaiju monsters for his own elitist purposes. Having turned his own private island into a fight club, Spiel forcibly enslaves Kaiju monsters using electric collars or other torturous methods, and makes them fight each other to the death for his own entertainment. Not above making these creatures fight each other senseless, Spiel also gleefully throws other humans into the rings, where he knows that the monsters would mercilessly hunt them down, having implied to have done this to any whistleblowers, rebelling workers, or even his own guards, as he had no qualms trying to leave them to die as soon as he felt that he was cornered. When the members of HEAT infiltrate his operations, he had them all trapped in his fighting ring in the hopes of killing them, and then when Godzilla showed up, he tried to turn him against HEAT as a distraction. Finally, at the end, he tries to escape after blowing up his own base, which would result in hundreds if not thousands of deaths.

At one point a monster knocks another unconscious, it's a presumption that they're killing each other and it's otherwise a generic monster fighting ring. He tries to use them to kill the heroes but it's not implied to be a regular thing for him, I have no clue where the "implied" assertion is coming from. Also his base has nowhere near hundreds, we're looking at like a dozen.

Episode is online for anyone who wants to double check but I don't think Maximillian cuts it.

Edit: Wait, my bad on the base thing, he doesn't try to blow it up, even less to go off.

Edited by 43110 on Dec 14th 2023 at 5:13:52 AM

Axe Spiel

Cut Spiel

Cut spiel

Cut him

Edited by Libraryseraph on Dec 14th 2023 at 5:16:07 AM

Yeah, just checked out the episode myself - just about everything in the EP is false. Spiel does throw the heroes into the ring but there is literally nothing indicating this is common, Godzilla doesn't "show up" (he's already there) and there's absolutely nothing about turning him against the humans, and I genuinely have no idea where on earth we're supposed to get the idea that he tried to blow up the base.

Neeku, I'm gonna be honest, if you see this you've got some explaining to do. I can understand getting details confused, but the entire EP even mixes up plot points to the point of basically being fan fiction. Like, the EP even says that he captures and brainwashes Godzilla to kill the heroes, but the heroes are only investigating Spiel because he already kidnapped Godzilla in the first place.

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Dec 14th 2023 at 5:38:10 AM

Cut Spiel

As a general and to everyone, please ask for a second opinion or double check a scene if you're uncertain on your reading of it. I'm not sure what happened here but there's tons of info that was posited in the EP which was not accurate to the story and we were upvoting in good faith when we weren't getting the accurate details of the work. Honesty is the pillar of our whole voting process and if things are accidentally misinterpreted then we're not really talking about the media anymore.

Oh no! I knew I made a mistake! I’m so sorry everyone, next time allow me to watch the series first and then I’ll approach you as to whether he would still count or if I can approach you with someone else. I thought I got all the details correct when I proposed Spiel, but now that you said it, I’m so ashamed and disappointed that I was wrong. May I try again with Godzilla another time?

I need to ask after reading that - did you or did you not watch the show before proposing the character?? Because, to be honest, the only other place I can find that suggests he tries to blow up the base (besides Trope entries you added) was the Wikipedia page for the show. Okay never mind, I think you're the one who added it there too...

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Dec 14th 2023 at 5:59:19 AM

Cut Spiel.

So did Neeku get anyone else up?

Kuroda from the Iron Man anime

Edited by Agentofchaos on Dec 14th 2023 at 5:50:23 AM

Wait, he doesn't even try to blow up the base? Cut.

You will keep Kuroda around at least right? As I said, I watched the anime, and everything I said is what he did. Anybody still refuses to believe me, go and find the anime and see for yourself.