To-do list:
- Clean up wicks to comply with the In-Universe Examples Only restriction. Progress is being tracked with the Pet Peeve Trope Wick Cleaning sandbox.
- Populate the on-page example section by crosswicking wicks that comply with the In-Universe Examples Only restriction.
- 37/50 are in-universe examples.
- 1/50 is an audience reaction.
- 12/50 are miscellaneous wicks instead of examples, such as wicks in descriptions or indexes.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 11th 2022 at 4:59:38 AM
Bonnie's Artistic Cousin
I guess IUEO works.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
If it's already mostly being used for in-universe examples, I see no harm in making it IUEO.
Make it IUEO.
It's either real or it's a dream
IUEO is fine by me, since it's how most tropers are using it anyway.
How sweet it is
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IUEO
The Unknown
Sure.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
IUEO.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
If changed to IUEO, we can probably also allow examples on the trope page again.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
Just stoic wisdom.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Absolutely. I actually meant to mention that we could remove it from No On-Page Examples when making it IUEO, and at least take examples I found in the wick check to populate the on-page example list when removing that restriction, and maybe crosswick other in-universe examples as they're found during wick cleanup, but I apparently forgot to mention that because it was late at night when I made this thread.
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QWEST!
What about creators? I have read the entries on Zero Punctuation. I think we should allow examples for individual creators. Plus I never really thought it would be a YMMV trope.
Edited by Diamondeye218 on Oct 6th 2022 at 7:37:19 PM
This deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball.
If this becomes IUEO, does that mean creators expressing their dislike of a trope won't count? Or is that considered an in-universe example?
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I'd imagine it depends on the context of how it's presented in their material, but I'm not so sure.
Anyway, also voting for IUEO.
QWEST!
When creators express it via Word of God, would that be an exception?
This deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball.
the Retromancer
If it becomes IUEO, would it stop being YMMV? And what's the deifference between it and Berserk Button?
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
A character has to get irrationally angry for it to count as a Berserk Button. Pet-Peeve Trope doesn't require that level of anger. Simple annoyance or stated dislike will do.
Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button
Yeah, Berserk Button was a whole other thread.
I agree with the notion to make it In-Universe Examples Only.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
OK, to answer the questions that came up:
- This would stop being YMMV if it becomes IUEO. The two are mutually exclusive with each other, and the latter takes priority over the former.
- Examples from creators would be allowed, so the Zero Punctuation examples would be allowed to stay (especially because Zero Punctuation is a work, and we're keeping examples from works). We'd just be forbidding examples from audience members who aren't creators, including specific tropers (aside from listings on Tropers/ pages), which would be anything on YMMV/ subpages.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 6th 2022 at 3:48:32 AM
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Calling in favor of making this IUEO. However, we need to hold another vote regarding whether to allow on-page examples, since after discussion with the other mods, that has to be decided separately from making it IUEO.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Calling in favor of allowing on-page examples. I'll remove it from No On-Page Examples, but I don't feel like adding any on-page examples yet; we could probably crosswick examples from the wick check as a starting point.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I made Pet Peeve Trope Wick Cleaning to keep track of wick cleanup since we're not removing everything. Make sure to crosswick valid wicks when going through work page namespaces.
Edit from later: I crosswicked examples the wick check picked up, so there are at least some on-page examples now.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 11th 2022 at 5:46:34 AM
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Crown Description:
Consensus was to make Pet Peeve Trope In Universe Examples Only. Allowing on-page examples was also discussed since examples are now limited to in-universe ones. Should on-page examples be allowed as well?
To-do list:
Wick check here.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 11th 2022 at 4:59:38 AM
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