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  • Disambiguate the page and move or remove examples on non-Archive pages other than Ambiguity Index.

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Were Still Relevant Dammit always sounded wrong to me. Just the title alone sounds very complainy, and most of the actual examples are also complaining about how this or that Long Runner dares to acknowledge the current society instead of pretending we're still in the year the franchise first premiered because smartphones are so cringe, eww.

Last year I ran a wick check that brought to a TRS thread that ultimately... brought to nothing. The discussion still went on with both a dedicated cleanup thread and a discussion in Trope Talk, and in the latter thread we finally found some options:

And we decided it's better to give it another TRS run to decide on its final fate.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 4th 2022 at 5:50:51 AM

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#1: Sep 30th 2022 at 10:54:01 AM

To-do list:

  • Disambiguate the page and move or remove examples on non-Archive pages other than Ambiguity Index.

    Original post 
Were Still Relevant Dammit always sounded wrong to me. Just the title alone sounds very complainy, and most of the actual examples are also complaining about how this or that Long Runner dares to acknowledge the current society instead of pretending we're still in the year the franchise first premiered because smartphones are so cringe, eww.

Last year I ran a wick check that brought to a TRS thread that ultimately... brought to nothing. The discussion still went on with both a dedicated cleanup thread and a discussion in Trope Talk, and in the latter thread we finally found some options:

And we decided it's better to give it another TRS run to decide on its final fate.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 4th 2022 at 5:50:51 AM

The best character is always the one-shot disguise.
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:31:39 AM

Opened.

Asterlix made a "Trendy Pop-Culture Reference" trope suggestion as discussion on that thread concluded. Since it's objective and not too similar to what Were Still Relevant Dammit aims/once aimed to be, I think it can be TLPed independently of this thread.

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#3: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:36:19 AM

I'm in favour of making it a disambiguation. I vaguely remember that the TLP drafts Nebulous Now and Instantly Dated were made in response to the original TRS thread — did they ever go anywhere?

prettycoolguy Since: Nov, 2010
#4: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:39:51 AM

I'm favor of a disambig. Very few examples are worthy of keeping for discussion, not to mention all of the misuse. If that TLP draft is something that'll exist, I see no reason to keep this item.

I would also say that Audience-Alienating Era would be good on the disambig list as well, considering sometimes this perceived shift happens because it is actually this era.

Jokubas Since: Jan, 2010
#5: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:43:17 AM

I thought it was less "dares to acknowledge the current society instead of pretending we're still in the year the franchise first premiered because smartphones are so cringe, eww" and more "waits five years after smartphones become mainstream to even acknowledge them, and then does so in a way that makes it clear they how no idea what they are."

I mean, maybe misuse has destroyed it, but I think that's very much a thing. It's the "parent who tries to relate to their kids without knowing anything about their interests" but in media.

The name could be less negative though, definitely.

prettycoolguy Since: Nov, 2010
#6: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:46:14 AM

[up] Two Decades Behind kinda covers the idea that this settles, but maybe a more Audience Reaction-Based Five Years Behind equivalent would be a good item to launch as well.

kundoo Since: Sep, 2010
#7: Sep 30th 2022 at 11:57:56 AM

[up][up]I suspect that no matter how we name it, the trope would attract complaining.

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Jokubas Since: Jan, 2010
#9: Sep 30th 2022 at 12:23:24 PM

Ah, yeah, I guess it's somewhere between Two Decades Behind and Totally Radical. So this is sort of redundant anyway, so I'm in favor of disambiguating.

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#10: Sep 30th 2022 at 12:24:16 PM

I'm putting my vote for Disambig.

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#13: Sep 30th 2022 at 12:56:55 PM

[tup] for disambiguating.

Edited by callmeamuffin on Oct 1st 2022 at 5:57:03 AM

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#15: Sep 30th 2022 at 2:07:15 PM

Another vote to disambiguate

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#17: Sep 30th 2022 at 4:51:24 PM

Disambig

The best character is always the one-shot disguise.
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#19: Sep 30th 2022 at 5:02:31 PM

Put me down as Disambig as well.

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#24: Oct 3rd 2022 at 2:24:10 AM

16 votes for it, so probably safe to call.

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#25: Oct 3rd 2022 at 1:19:18 PM

Go ahead and disambiguate.

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