The NRLEP and LRLEO criteria

Don't forget theme park examples as they are technically Real Life places under a different folder.

Mod hat off, but my view is that a theme park ride can be considered a work. So can some aspects of a particular theme park as a whole.

That logic is why they qualify for pages in the Ride namespace.

As long as that's true, I think we'd want to distinguish between OBC relevant to the 'work' and OBC that's essentially RL.

I also wonder if we would have to add Oppressive States of America to this partial RL examples page, considering No Recent Examples, Please! placed a ban for them past the 1960's Civil Rights Movement. You can see the overlap there.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Jan 21st 2024 at 12:44:19 PM

That's to be discussed on the cleanup thread.

As for this suggestion, I'm against it. Mainly because if there was an actual chance of an issue it would have been discussed in the TLP already. People get too eager to enact NRLEP and if a trope doesn't even have a clear risk of collecting said examples (having come out of the TLP without the issue even being mentioned half the time) I don't see a valid reason to crowner it.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 21st 2024 at 7:14:55 AM

I'm personally not in favor of the idea myself; I'd prefer to continue to only allow preemptive NRLEP designations pre-launch. I just brought it up for the sake of spitballing in the event that anyone was in favor of allowing exceptions for cases like that, since that discussion was brought up in the mod chat.

Edit: Neglected to ask if my proposed name for the index for partial bans is fine as-is, or if we need a crowner for what the name should be, since the crowner for whether to make the index will be ready to call tomorrow.

Edit: I also neglected to mention that I'm against having tropes listed on both No Recent Examples, Please! and the index for other types of partial bans, but I do feel that there might be a case of moving Oppressive States of America to the latter, since the former is intended for tropes that allow examples after a certain amount of time has passed, while that trope completely forbids real life examples from after the Civil Rights Movement instead of having a waiting period. Same for any other tropes that completely ban examples after a certain point of time instead of having a waiting period, if there are any.

Edit: I made Sandbox.Some Real Life Examples Only as a starting point for the index. Most of the text was directly copied from Administrivia.No Real Life Examples Please page as a starting point, so it would probably be a good idea to change the wording to be less samey if that's necessary.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 21st 2024 at 7:33:46 AM

The only other possibility I can think of is Administrivia.Limited Real Life Examples. Not sure which option would be better though.

Administrivia.Restrictions On Real Life Examples ?

I think the name you came up with works the best. It just feels natural and communicates that it's related to No Real Life Examples, Please!

Also, is it possible to crowner a trope to be moved from NRLEP to SRLEP? Like how I wanted to just have Body Horror only ban human examples.

The RL cleanup thread could be used to change a full ban to a partial ban (or vice versa). It was already able to be used to remove NRLEP restrictions if someone could put forth an argument in favor of removing NRLEP restrictions from a trope.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 22nd 2024 at 6:38:54 AM

Alright. I also added The Von Trope Family to the sandbox since it was technically always had a partial RL ban since it only allows deliberately invoked RL examples.

For Oppressive States of America, wouldn’t that go on No Recent Examples, Please!?

It's already listed there.

So does it also need to be on Limited Real Life Examples Only, unless many of the pages on that list should be on LRLEO? And if so, would that be redundant since we already have a separate index for that? Many of the tropes listed there do allow recent fictional examples, and there are other possible reasons to only allow some RL examples.

Edited by Lymantria on Feb 7th 2024 at 5:21:54 PM

Don't know if this is right place to ask but on Jan 29th ~civetcatcoffee rewrote the description on Mr Bates vs The Post Office. I won't deny my original description might be clunky but I tried to write it from a 'in universe' point of view, I'm just concerned it's become a bit more Real Life Troping and I was wondering if it needs to perhaps be rewritten to be somewhere in between.

Will there be a designated discussion (is it necessary?) for checking which already NRLEP should be partial?

Discussion regarding whether anything should be moved from NRLEP to LRLEO (which was already done with Safe Word and The Von Trope Family) can be done via the cleanup thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 10th 2024 at 1:09:35 PM

Can anyone advise me on my question in

Yes, I was asking for advice on which thread.