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The WebOriginal/ namespace (currently at arond 400 pages) has frequently been misused as a catch-all for any internet works, even when the work in question should probably go on other categories, such as Blog/, Fanfic/, Literature/ (in the case of Web Serial Novels), Roleplay/, WebAnimation/, Webcomic/, Website/ or WebVideo/.

Therefore, this project is dedicated to sorting or moving these works to their correct namespaces. Due to the obscurity of a large part of these works, a lot of these pages tend to also be low-quality (zero-context examples, poor grammar, red links, no crosswicking or indexing, Auto-Erotic Troping...) so general cleanup for these pages can also be discussed here.

(Note that the namespace isn't completely redundant, as a lot of works such as Creepypasta or Original Character Tournaments don't really fit any of the above namespaces.)

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 24th 2023 at 2:51:56 PM

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#101: Sep 24th 2023 at 12:35:03 AM

Where would WebOriginal.AIIM fall under? It appears to be a written story, but told through the use of interactive means.

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#102: Sep 24th 2023 at 6:05:51 AM

Technically you can put it on Website/ but I don't know.

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#103: Sep 24th 2023 at 9:30:56 AM

What namespace would WebOriginal.Zalgo move to? The page doesn't regard any story of the creature that got inspired off of the text-based phenomenon (there are a few tropes about the demon itself though). I mainly get that the idea originated from some edits of (web)comics.

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#104: Sep 24th 2023 at 9:54:26 AM

I think it should get the same treatment as Goncharov. The main page would be in Webcomic or Literature to describe the two edited comic strips and the accompanying lore post, while possible interpretation that aren't present in the original should be at JFF.

Edited by Amonimus on Sep 24th 2023 at 7:54:32 PM

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#105: Sep 24th 2023 at 10:05:00 AM

The difference is that the Zalgo stories actually exist, unlike Goncharov. IDK why we'd move any of it to JFF as if it's troping a nonexistent work.

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#106: Sep 24th 2023 at 10:20:13 AM

By the logic that unofficial examples shouldn't really be on work's page. Unless it's regarded as internet's collaborative work.

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#107: Sep 24th 2023 at 10:22:36 AM

It basically is. Zalgo is a weird case since it's an expanding internet horror story and concept, not really a character contained to one work. It's like Slenderman in that regard, though Slenderman has enough works to warrant a franchise page instead (Franchise.The Slenderman Mythos)

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#109: Sep 24th 2023 at 12:35:16 PM

Again, I don't think we should. Goncharov is a real internet collab work about a fictional movie. Inglip and Zalgo are real works but in a non-traditional internet-based format where anyone can contribute to the mythos.

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#110: Sep 24th 2023 at 3:34:34 PM

Both WebOriginal.The Smiling Man and WebOriginal.The Rake started as stories on Reddit and 4chan respectively.

Smiling Man is an easy move to Literature/, cause it's a short story.

The Rake came from the /b/ board where the posters were brainstorming ideas and one just happened to stand out. The design and lore came from this post:

"Alright, this is for the people who like the three-eyes, no apparent mouth, pale skin one. Here's what we've got so far: Humanoid, about six feet tall when standing, but usually crouches and walks on all fours. It has very pale skin. The face is blank. As in, no nose, no mouth. However, it has three solid green eyes, one in the middle of its forehead, and the other two on either side of its head, towards the back. Usually seen in front yards in suburban areas. Usually just watches the observer, but will stand up and attack if approached. When it attacks, a mouth opens up, as if a hinged skull that opens at the chin. Reveals many tiny, but dull teeth."

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#111: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:23:50 AM

Re: Amonimus

We have an entire index for it, but this may need a closer look (own thread?).
Alright I’ll ask, but which board should I ask it? Short Term, Wiki Talk? ATT?

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#112: Sep 26th 2023 at 5:28:58 AM

Wiki Talk. First to decide what to do with OTC in general, it can be moved to cleanup later.

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#113: Sep 26th 2023 at 8:53:14 AM

[up] OK, but I'm not really sure what question to ask in the OP.

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#114: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:36:57 PM

WebOriginal.Cat Ghost is multimedia but the trope list is split between the animations and the games.

Maybe split the page into Web Animation/ and Video Game/?

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#115: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:48:43 PM

It was discussed elsewhere that it should probably be ARG/. The games and the videos are part of the same product, not separate works in a franchise. They cannot be split.

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#116: Sep 26th 2023 at 4:49:38 PM

[up] Alright, I'll put in the ARG/ folder.

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#118: Sep 26th 2023 at 7:20:48 PM

I don't plan on watching WebOriginal.Electrobabe And Dynachick and never will. The sandbox seems to sort it as WebVideo/. After reading the description though, it seems to suggest they're films, not online videos.

So...Film/?

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#119: Sep 26th 2023 at 7:33:36 PM

And WebVideo.Daredolls Dilemmas would go under Series/ then?

Edited by FernandoLemon on Sep 26th 2023 at 11:34:15 AM

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#120: Sep 26th 2023 at 7:36:24 PM

[up] That one's stated as a direct-to-video series.

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#121: Sep 26th 2023 at 7:45:48 PM

Either way, judging by the website / social media, looks like the title should be TheDareDollDilemmas. (Though the capitalization isn't consistent on DareDoll vs Daredoll, the former seems more common.)

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#122: Sep 26th 2023 at 7:46:56 PM

It doesn't look like it was produced specifically for the internet, so Series.The Dare Doll Dilemmas is the most viable option.

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#125: Sep 26th 2023 at 9:36:46 PM

I can't find "adventures of electrobabe & dynachick" or "adventures of electrobabe and dynachick" anywhere other than our own page for it, so I'd go with Film.Electro Babe And Dyna Chick


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