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#1: May 13th 2022 at 12:55:56 PM

A lot of the examples listed on Instant Sedation are aversions.

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#2: May 14th 2022 at 4:41:13 AM

A lot of those seem not noteworthy. The ones where the delayed effect causes severe issues for the sedater in-universe could be kept, I guess.

EmeraldSource Since: Jan, 2021
#3: May 14th 2022 at 9:41:25 AM

It's one of those tropes that are only noteworthy because it deviates from reality. That makes it so when it is done more realistically it tends to stand out. It's maybe not quite at the Space Is Noisy level of omnipresence but it is close.

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#4: May 14th 2022 at 10:18:01 AM

Right. The thing about Instant Sedation is that it is a trope by virtue of the deviation it represents from reality. When sedation works as it would in real life, it's not a trope in the same way. Things Happen Exactly As They Would In Reality is rarely tropable unless the converse is truly omnipresent.

Edited by Fighteer on May 14th 2022 at 1:18:09 PM

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#5: May 14th 2022 at 11:22:44 AM

And with those types of tropes it becomes a thing where an example might be "the character drops within seconds, but appears to remain semi conscious even if unable to respond to the attacker." It's not completely straight, not really a subversion, far from an aversion but still slightly more realistic than other uses.

The danger is such a trope becomes any time someone gets tranquilized and the varying amounts of time before it takes effect, but without the unrealistic qualifier of the trope it would be People Sit on Chairs.

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#6: May 14th 2022 at 7:15:16 PM

I would consider those examples of Instant Sedation being Downplayed.

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#7: May 14th 2022 at 7:43:55 PM

[up] Some of them, but most of them are actual aversions:

Averted with Gin. Due to his large height, the sedation process works slower on him than on Kogoro. He uses the time he has to shoot through his arm, which destroys the needle and cancels the sedation effect and the pain on his arm allows him to stay fully awake.
Averted in the Shooting Star manga. In order to fulfill a mission, Spike has to take someone down alive and is given a tranquilizer gun by Jet to do so. However, just as Spike is about to shoot the target, Ed discovers that the target is fatally allergic to sedatives.
Averted in the Naruto fanfiction SugarPlums, Ume uses sedatives on an opponent at the beginning of the fight and has to spend the rest of the fight avoiding being knocked out while she waits for it to set in.
Horrifically averted in Weight of the World. Ironwood drugs America with a paralytic. It paralyzes him but doesn't knock him out. Seeing as how sedation is not the drug's purpose that makes sense... so Ironwood keeps injecting his victim with more doses until he is on the verge of overdosing and nearly catatonic.
Averted in Suicide Kings. The main characters, one of whom is a medical student, expect their kidnapping attempt to go like this and are nearly killed when they find out just how difficult it is to sedate an unwilling subject in a moving car.
Averted in a book called Cryptid Hunters: The protagonist shoots two mercenaries with tranqs, and then runs off as they chase him with shotguns. He knows full well that they will take a few minutes for the drug to take effect, and laments that it's not instantaneous like in the movies.
Averted and a plot point in Danny, the Champion of the World. The villain Mr. Hazell owns an enormous estate with pheasants that he refuses to let anyone but the rich hunt in, even though pheasant poaching is a tradition of the community. Deciding to humiliate him by stealing all the pheasants before Hazell's annual pheasant shooting party, Danny and his father feed the birds raisins with sleeping pills in them. The birds act fine until several hours later when they fall asleep and start dropping out of the trees they roost in. This lets the two catch all the birds after hours, preventing Mr. Hazell from discovering them.
Jurassic Park
  • Averted in the novel, where the big Tyrannosaurus rex (yes, there are two Tyrannosaurs) gets shot multiple times with tranqs but it takes her over an hour to feel it. In fact, she nearly eats the kids while everyone's wondering if she was even hit.
The Adventures of Pete & Pete: Averted Trope in the Christmas Episode; Little Pete shoots the Garbage Man with a tranq (actually hitting a major vein!), and it takes a couple of minutes of real-time to start taking effect.
Averted though when Hodgins and Wells shoot each other with coy-dog tranquilizer darts in another episode.They were meant for much smaller animals, so neither one passes out and there’s no immediate effect. They basically just act high when seen a couple of scenes after.
Averted Trope: during a routine treatment for injury, Simon covertly injects Jayne with a sedative when he begins to show signs of planning to take command of the ship, but several minutes pass before Jayne gradually loses consciousness (mid-takeover rant, no less).
Also averted during the final battle in Serenity Kaylee is struck by three Reaver tranquilizer darts. She remains conscious, but is decidedly loopy and out of the fight after a few minutes. It probably helps that she was hit right in the neck.
Friends: Averted Trope when Phoebe is shot in the backside with a dart. She never passes out, though she does comment that her buttock is asleep (and that the other one has no idea). The dart was intended for a very small monkey, so there probably wasn't much juice in there anyway.
Law & Order: Special Victims Unit: Averted Trope. A mentally unstable suspect has a psychotic break in the interview room, Benson and Stabler have to restrain him while Dr. Huang injects him with a sedative, the man is even more unhinged, and Dr. Huang says it will take at least ten minutes to work.
Averted in the Batman: The Animated Series episode "Sideshow". Killer Croc has just escaped from a train transporting him to prison, but not before being shot with a sedative in his upper arm. He manages to tussle with Batman, attempt to crush a downed Bats' head with a rock, run through the woods for, at the very least, several minutes, push down a full-grown tree, and fight off Batman again, all while only experiencing moderate dizziness from the sedative. He finally goes under after falling down a waterfall.
Averted in an early ep, where Goliath takes a few minutes for the tranq darts to really hit him.

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RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
#8: May 15th 2022 at 8:27:52 AM

Regarding the Jurassic Park example, I would count that as a subversion. What happened was when the T-Rex was first shot, it was assumed that the dart missed because it didn't seem affected by the dart. It was only later that it was realized that the dart had hit it, the tranquilizer was just taking a while to take hold.

EmeraldSource Since: Jan, 2021
#9: May 15th 2022 at 4:56:18 PM

Because the trope is centered around realism interfering with storytelling, part of the problem becomes how, exactly, the trope can be played with. It is basically two ideas fused together, that neutralizing someone with some form of sedative is A) reliable and B) quick even though neither is particularly realistic. So is subverting it calculating the dosage needed for the target so they will collapse without any side effects and the patient hero can move along without being caught, or does it mean the target doesn't respond anywhere near fast enough to be practical and they set off an alarm?

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