Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
If the different incarnations of Eddie Brock from Venom (Vol. 5) — Finnegan, Bedlam, Wilde, Tyro, Meridius, and the Eventuality — were merged into his character page, would that sufficiently bulk it up enough to let it stand on its own?
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Any opinions on this?
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Sounds good ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thumbs_up_emote.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
One-Track Mind (he/him)
What, if anything, should we do with these?
The Formatter
I’d say yes, but you have more time to think about it. We’re saving the marvel stuff for last. Big multi franchises are going to be massive headaches.
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Lord DC, Marvel, and their adaptations are going to be a pain.
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Can I get help with seeing what Characters.Doctor Who pages need to be merged back as I am on mobile right now?
Edited by Bullman on Mar 13th 2024 at 3:50:39 AM
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Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Doctor Who Expanded Universe Masters could maybe go back under the main Master page?
Davros is fine (adding him back to the Daleks would be over 250k).
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- Characters.Chainsaw Man Main Characters (74,337 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Denji (128,440 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Makima And Nayuta (127,660 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Pochita (54,187 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Asa Mitaka And Yoru (80,588 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Devil Hunters (168,636 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Chainsaw Man Church (101,358 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Devils And Fiends (174,304 bytes)
- Characters.Chainsaw Man Other Characters (190,067 bytes)
From the looks of it, Asa/Yoru and Pochita can be merged back into the Main Characters page. Denji and Makima/Nayuta can keep their pages because they would bloat it to over 250K.
Uzume's back baby!
Do it, no one's objecting.
To go by the changes made to the rules of CSP's byte counter, and through copy-pasting the markups of ALL of the character pages to different byte counter websites, I think its safe to merge my page for Neptune back to Main CPUs; both page's byte numbers are respectively 49,130 and 66,197, which both add up to 115,336 - a HUGE number but not huge enough to bloat the page. As for the other pages:
- Neptunia - Candidates (32,413)
- Neptunia - Other CPUs (73,344)
- Neptunia - Oracles (13,027)
- Neptunia - Makers (50,291)
- Neptunia - Gold Third (35,819)
- Neptunia - Major Antagonists (79,412)
- Neptunia - Antagonists (78,700)
- Neptunia - Others (23,833)
- Neptunia - Spin-off Characters (42,959)
Edited by ToonAbby on Mar 13th 2024 at 12:48:10 PM
"The name's Uzume Tennouboshi! Yeah, it's pretty badass, I know." - Uzume, Megadimension Neptunia VII
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Thoughts on these?
Regarding the sandbox page for All For One, the word count has been lowered to 219,354 characters as per the edit page, and several entries have been trimmed down significantly. Is it possible to remove the edit lock on the main character page with this, as recent events in the manga have ensured there'll be little new entries added regarding All For One.
Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Death Note – Main Characters is over 98k.
Death Note - Misa Amane is over 47k.
Death Note - L Lawliet is over 56.6 k.
Combiner that's under 205k. So combine?
Death Note - Light Yagami is fine as is. 169,577.
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Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Well, my work computer's all fux0red, so I guess tomorrow I'll do that, the Transformers stuff, and Mortal Kombat.
For Mortal Kombat, the merging won't be too bad; even doing the Complete Monster stuff is doable. The thing that's REALLY gonna suck, is there are currently 18 works, and 14 character pages. Plus one of the works has 2 subpages. That means there are 30-35 pages, ALL of which will need to have the index on top modified to remove the characters being merged back 
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So, am I good to merge the Community pages?
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He/Him
While Hiccup (74,338 bytes) can't be merged back into Characters.How To Train Your Dragon Films Hooligan Tribe (184,304 bytes) because that would make 258,642 in total.
We can split off the Dragon Riders group into Characters.How To Train Your Dragon Films Hooligan Tribe Dragon Riders and move Hiccup there.
Anyone good with that?
Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Mar 16th 2024 at 3:55:23 AM
Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation project
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild: Ganon and Yiga Clan (150,886 bytes) and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild — Ganondorf (119,713 bytes) together it is 270,599 bytes. So, it should be good to keep him separate right?
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Hmm... I recall TotK Ganondorf being brought up previously, when the mainline Ganondorf was merged back into the Triforce Wielders page, and IIRC it was decided he could stay separate.
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Was it? I must have forgotten about that. I am sorry.
Ok so I visited the My Hero Academia pages and My Hero Academia - Other Heroes is 254,994 bytes long while My Hero Academia - League of Villains is 263,678 bytes. Now I don't really know a lot about the series, so does anyone with more knowledge have any idea on how to split them?
The Characters.Persona 5 Strikers page is currently sitting at 303,899 bytes, with about 178,922 bytes taken up by the Jail Monarchs section alone.
Would it be good to split the Jail Monarchs into their own page?
I don't know about suggest moving the True Culprit folder to the same page, as that is 34,514 bytes by itself and moving it there would make it over 200K and doesn't have enough by itself to warrant its own character page.
On a similar note, maybe Zenkichi Hasegawa and Sophie combined could possibly get their own page, as they are 64,815 bytes combined, but I think they could also stay on the strikers character page without a split.
Edited by taotruths on Mar 15th 2024 at 10:12:57 AM
If we wanna keep Micah, I could live with that.
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