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Serac I'm not afraid anymore Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
I'm not afraid anymore
Sep 27th 2021 at 4:09:29 PM

Ok, I've launched Logical Fallacies. I'll get to trimming down the Main/ page in a minute. I don't know that I'll have a ton of time to work on dewicking, but I'll do what I can.

By the way, are we cutting or redirecting the pages that we're merging?

Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Winter is coming...
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sep 29th 2021 at 5:40:13 AM

[up]I agree.

Also, I changed the page type to Useful Notes because most pages in non-Main namepsaces are erroneously set to "subpage" by default.

Edit: Indexed on Useful Notes under Psychology. Feel free to adjust that if it's the wrong section, because I couldn't find a better one (I figured it worked because Victim-Blaming is listed there, and that's another thing based on bad logic).

Edit: The pages that were to be merged have been merged. I posted notices on their discussion pages and the discussion page of Main.Logical Fallacies.

Edit: Redirects of now-merged pages are now redirects to Logical Fallacies.

Anyway, here's the Related page for UsefulNotes.Logical Fallacies, so we can access the Related pages of the redirects from there.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 29th 2021 at 4:36:10 AM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sep 29th 2021 at 2:42:35 PM

Here are the specific redirects that need to have their wicks cleaned up, as well as how many wicks they have:

Give me a bit and I'll update this post to have direct links to their wick lists.

Edit: Done.

Edit: I dewicked Ad Hoc, but as you can see above, that's not exactly a feat.

Edit: Appeal to Consequences was dewicked. That one took a bit longer, and now I'm going to take a break.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Sep 29th 2021 at 9:23:56 AM

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Oct 3rd 2021 at 11:06:10 AM

I just found Cab Driver's Fallacy, so you might want to figure out what to do with that one. It only has four navigational wicks, so it should be easy to move.

That said, I don't know if this term even exists. Searching "Cab Driver's Fallacy" I can't find it used outside TV Tropes and its mirrors. I found this but it's newer than the trope page, uses a different name, and hardly matches up with the page description.

Ordeaux26 Morton's Fork Slasher Smile from Minecraft Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Oct 3rd 2021 at 11:28:56 AM

I just noticed there is a logical fallacy missing the Appeal to Nature fallacy. Are tropers allowed to add missing ones?

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Serac I'm not afraid anymore Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
I'm not afraid anymore
Oct 3rd 2021 at 1:16:53 PM

[up][up] Cab Driver's Fallacy is on the list of pages to merge. It's not on the crowner, but the thread agreed to merge everything with less than 10 wicks without voting on it.

[up] Appeal to Nature still exists and isn't going anywhere.

GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 3rd 2021 at 7:31:31 PM

[up]So should Cab Driver's Fallacy have its text added to UsefulNotes.Logical Fallacies and be turned into a redirect to that page?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 3rd 2021 at 9:31:47 AM

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Serac I'm not afraid anymore Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
I'm not afraid anymore
Oct 4th 2021 at 8:49:09 AM

I've already added it and the other <10 wick pages to the useful notes page. I'm not the one who redirected the other pages, but I can redirect these too. (Edit: Most of them were already redirected, but I got a couple that weren't.)

For clarity, here are the pages we're merging that weren't on the crowner:

Edited by Serac on Oct 4th 2021 at 10:51:18 AM

GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 5th 2021 at 12:48:25 AM

[up]I was the one who redirected the ones Septimus mentioned in the two posts he made calling the consensus (one for the stub pages, and another for the rest).

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Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Oct 15th 2021 at 12:50:47 AM

I'll do the wick clearing. Already got two of these redirects done.

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Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Oct 22nd 2021 at 8:15:19 AM

Gonna keep going today. 18 redirects with wicks on non-locked pages left when I posted this. 15 left as of edit.

Edited by Piterpicher on Oct 22nd 2021 at 6:11:06 PM

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Serac I'm not afraid anymore Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
I'm not afraid anymore
Oct 22nd 2021 at 10:25:32 AM

Also, since it's being converted to an index, should it be removed from No On-Page Examples?

Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Oct 22nd 2021 at 10:55:15 AM

I'd say so.

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 22nd 2021 at 8:37:08 PM

Double post, sorry. I got the last 24 wicks for Appeal to Pity, so not counting a lone wick for Appeal to Ridicule on a locked page (which I submitted a request for in the Locked Pages thread), Argumentum Ad Nauseam is up next (going in alphabetical order).

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Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Winter is coming...
Oct 22nd 2021 at 10:14:22 PM

Fallacy of Division dewicking is done, and I'll tackle the locked page.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 22nd 2021 at 12:16:20 PM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 2nd 2021 at 3:01:23 PM

I've noticed that redirects tend to be dewicked in merges like this. Is that really necessary? It prevents anchored redirects and makes it harder to split in the future if needed.

Edited by N1KF on Nov 2nd 2021 at 5:01:38 AM

WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
The cutest little monster
Nov 2nd 2021 at 4:16:17 PM

They're dewicked because the tropes no longer exist, and we're not supposed to use redirects. Why would we do a split anyway if we've agreed the splits aren't tropeworthy? Plus if we did let them be wicked, people who don't know about the TRS decision would use them.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 2nd 2021 at 7:17:02 AM

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Nov 21st 2021 at 1:44:17 AM

Everything's done. Hollering for a lock.

Thud!!
SeptimusHeap Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Nov 21st 2021 at 2:36:27 AM

Closing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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26th Jul '21 12:41:53 AM

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Logical Fallacies is an index with a lot of stub pages in it. Should they be merged?

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