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Ban-Evader Reversion Thread

Please read the outline below before proceeding any further.
Important Note: This thread is devoted to reverting the edits of Tropers who have repeatedly chosen to evade their bans and suspensions, since serial ban-evasion is an act which is by its very nature a display of untrustworthiness, the fact that some ban-evaders outright engage in vandalism or add false information notwithstanding.
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    Overview 
As mentioned here, due to the prolific nature of serial ban-evaders, there needs to be a team effort devoted to reverting any and all edits made by ban-evaders, especially serial ban-evaders, and investigating otherwise suspicious edits.
    Sandboxes 
In order to accomplish this admittedly Herculean task, sandboxes for Ban-Evader Reversion have been created for the purpose of identifying problematic pages which are edited primarily by ban-evaders.

Depending on how much of the pages can be salvaged, they will either be noted in the B.E.R.T. Watch-List, locked if necessary, or cut if unsalvageable.

Any Frequently Vandalized Pages will also be monitored for suspicious activity.

If you notice a page is primarily edited by a certain ban-evader and/or their socks, please bring your findings to this thread so that cleanup can commence.

Potentially valid examples added by ban evaders should be transferred to Ban-Evader Example Rewrites so they can be salvaged. Make sure to mention transferring examples to the sandbox in your edit reason so others who may be willing to rewrite are aware.

    Resolved Items 

Handling General Ban-Evader Edits:

To paraphrase what is stated here and here:
  1. Bad faith is not necessarily assumed with the contributions of first-time ban-evaders, and their contributions can simply be rephrased assuming they're accurate.
  2. Any serial (more than once) ban-evader cannot be taken at their word, so their contributions are subject to harsher scrutiny. Any verifiable examples can be reworded (especially if there are grammatical or formatting issues), but unverifiable, false, or otherwise prohibited edits are removed.
  3. Ban-evaders who deliberately contribute inaccurate or false information are able to have their contributions deleted with little hesitation.
  4. Rewording or reverting can be as simple as expanding on a ban-evader's existing edits, especially if it means adding sufficient context or trimming word cruft.

The subsequent portions of this section outline further how to handle different kinds of edits and contributions.

The following types of edits can be left alone to preserve wiki quality:

  • Grammatical corrections.
  • Spelling corrections.
  • Formatting updates and corrections.note 
  • Crosswicked examples from other tropers.
  • Indexing (if accurate).note 
  • Accurately written potholes.note 
  • Links to the correct Work/Recap/Instalment/Franchise page, including red-linked works.note 
  • Archive edits. (See here.)
  • Launched Tropes.note 

The following edits might need to be reworded in order to stay on the wiki, and depending on the examples, may need to be re-evaluated/verified in this thread or in the proper cleanup threads.

The following edits should remain hidden until they can be verified, and deleted if proven inaccurate:

  • Zero Context Examples.note 

The following items must be sent to the cut-list/otherwise removed on principle (and if applicable, re-created by a trustworthy editor from scratch using a Sandbox):

  • Pages created by ban-evaders using their socks.note 
  • Videos uploaded by ban evaders using their socks.note 
    Forum Decorum 
  • Please refrain from "popcorn posting". This means refraining making comments such as "man, they don't know when to quit", or otherwise unproductive posts.
  • Please maintain an atmosphere of civility.
  • Please do not withhold information about potential sock-puppetry or other ban-evasion related misconduct, as withholding such information makes one an accessory to ban-evasion.
  • When reverting edits, please make notes in the sandboxes, and transfer any potentially valid edits to the appropriate sandbox.
  • When reverting ban-evader edits, please use an appropriate (and civil) edit reason.
  • Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, please do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input; if necessary (especially if suspicious edits or issues unrelated to the forum are involved), make a query at "Ask The Tropers".
  • Please respect the thread consensus once it has been established. If an item is resolved, it is usually resolved for a reason.
  • If you have any suggestions for new policies, or wish to contest an old one, do it in the General Policy Discussion, not here.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 13th 2024 at 10:23:58 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#526: Aug 3rd 2022 at 12:54:42 PM

Huh, haven't heard of them before. Thanks; we'll keep an eye out and do cleanup.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#527: Aug 4th 2022 at 7:18:36 AM

A routine check has located a sockfarm that may need attention. The account ShortNBrightNUgly is a confirmed sock of serial ban evader sammmmy0987, AKA Kitchen90, trumpton360, and MarshyShonen. Their thing is rogue-launching TLPs.

Edited by Fighteer on Aug 4th 2022 at 10:18:51 AM

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KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#528: Aug 5th 2022 at 3:09:21 AM

Out of curiosity, what's a sockfarm?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#529: Aug 5th 2022 at 3:18:43 AM

A sockfarm is when someone has multiple accounts in order to evade a ban.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
CytoZytokine Since: Jun, 2022
#530: Aug 5th 2022 at 6:44:24 AM

[up][up]Added Sockfarm to TV Tropes Glossary for your convenience.

[down]Revised the entry. Thanks. [tup]

Edited by CytoZytokine on Aug 5th 2022 at 7:00:49 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#531: Aug 5th 2022 at 6:51:10 AM

It's not always to evade a ban. Sometimes people make sockpuppets to vote up crowners or hat TLP drafts. We've had people who keep forgetting their passwords and instead of trying to recover them, keep making new accounts. It's not a unitary reason, but ban evasion is by far the most common one.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#533: Aug 9th 2022 at 7:42:02 AM

All edits have been reverted, but noting here that this ATT discovered that Malipan 2002 is Hello Coco ban evading.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#534: Aug 10th 2022 at 12:36:56 AM

Just posting here that caught another sayaka sock— annaengel3336 I reverted the FETCH! with Ruff Ruffman page and some others but there's still 60+ other edits to look through.

Macron's notes
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
#536: Aug 13th 2022 at 4:18:53 PM

The Ensemble Dark Horse page for Rupaul's Drag Race was recently deleted because, among other reasons, it was created by a sock of Witch Of The Absolute. We need to know who that is to proceed with the cleanup.

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#537: Aug 13th 2022 at 4:24:23 PM

~Septimus Heap Out of curiosity, what was the ban evader account mentioned in [up]? Have the rest of its edits been reverted already?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#538: Aug 14th 2022 at 1:40:59 AM

That cut isn't recent - it was Truculent Antelope which was banned four years ago. Sometimes the cutlist displays ancient cut reasons.

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bwburke94 Friends forevermore from uǝʌɐǝɥ Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
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#539: Aug 14th 2022 at 1:56:20 AM

I thought that bug was fixed...

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#540: Aug 14th 2022 at 2:03:16 AM

It was. The old reasons still show up on the cutlist though, and that's what's being referred to here. The one above it is the correct cut reason.

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randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#542: Aug 15th 2022 at 6:25:14 PM

Angie710 was bounced for being MsChibi.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=114969&type=att

Basically any Playing With page with a long list of subversions and double subversions is a red flag.

YuriHaru567 Voice actor and artist with too much free time from Houston, Texas Since: Feb, 2020 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
Voice actor and artist with too much free time
#543: Aug 15th 2022 at 6:29:30 PM

per this thread, annaengel3336 was outed as another sayaka sock. revert as needed.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#544: Aug 15th 2022 at 6:34:10 PM

I already posted about them a few days sgo but I guess people missed it,

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#546: Aug 22nd 2022 at 10:59:36 AM

Regarding Video Curator / Ninten Fire Swag:

Since I reported them last time, their editing pattern back then was RWBY, Genshin Impact and Marvel, obsessing over inserting Downer Ending scenarios wherever they could (including rewriting Bittersweet Ending and "Ray of Hope" Ending entries as DE); when asked about the edits, they would use Marvel to try and justify them. Looking at their current edit history, they seem to apply that Single-Issue Wonk over Downer Ending to any work they take an interest in, as I can see the same issue cropping up in other works, too.

Edit: what's the scope for reverting ban evader edits? VC created the WhatAnIdiot.The Rising Of The Shield Hero page. There are a lot of examples, so I can see why the page was created. On the other hand, they also created Recap.Yashahime Princess Half Demon Ep 24 Sesshomarus Daughter, which demonstrates their DE wonk: the page was created with a single trope (DE), and a single video which claims the example is both DE and ROHE (it can't be both, but this is an example of what they tend to do with these tropes).

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 22nd 2022 at 12:00:17 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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eagle108 Since: Aug, 2009
#549: Sep 18th 2022 at 12:44:32 PM

[up] Reverted what I could.

The entry Dragonfly TV that mixmilkshakes created was added to the Cutlist because the summary is straight up plagiarized from its Wikipedia entry, and there's only one trope.

If anyone far more familiar with FETCH! with Ruff Ruffman could check the additions they made?

Edited by eagle108 on Sep 18th 2022 at 1:29:19 AM

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from NYPD (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#550: Sep 29th 2022 at 9:01:33 AM

[up] Additionally, the proper namespace would be Series.Dragonfly TV.

Unfortunately, not familiar with Fetch.

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