Opening and clocking.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I think we should remove examples that started out with audio, such as Harley Quinn.
How much consensus is needed for a rename? I don't think there's even time for a poll with the clock ticking.
The clock is ticking to encourage discussion. Kind of.
The title invites a broader interpretation of the actual concept, but I'm ambivalent about renaming or culling examples.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 10th 2020 at 10:52:36 AM
As a first step, the current page image (illustrating the Recency effect) should be pulled. Examples marked in italic seem valid to me. 18% misuse doesn't speak strongly for a rename but I wouldn't be opposed to one seeing how generic it is. Then clean up and be done.
Gentleman Troper!
"Can't unhear it" should obviously be a redirect to Ear Worm.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
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Minor correction; it's actually 18 of 64, or 28%.
Agree that characters who originated with audio shouldn't count. Written media that follows is likely to be based on the voice for continuity's sake, not popularity. Cases like Harry Potter fans being unable to read Severus Snape in the books without hearing Alan Rickman's performance are what we want. I admit I haven't seen the divergent, problematic examples, but if they're there, I think a cleanup might be more viable.
No it shouldn't be?
Edited by FernandoLemon on Jun 11th 2020 at 12:06:27 PM
I'd like to apologize for all this.
I looked into some of the 18 examples and they looked valid so I am discounting.
Clock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Clock is up with no progress; closing.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Can't Un-Hear It is supposed to be for when an actor voices as a certain character and from henceforth fans always associate that character with that actor's voice, however the trope name makes it sound like a more general vocal association.
Wick check:
Of 64 wicks checked 18, or 28% (which I've put in italics) should be looked into. Broadly, we can classify the problematic examples into three types:
1. I Am Not Spock - Fans can't hear a certain voice as anything other than a specific character from a certain (unrelated) work.
2. Recency effect - Seeing a character causes fans to read everything in that character's voice.
3. Parody - Depending on how flexible this trope is to be this may or may not need to be cleaned up, but I'm erring on the side of caution and highlighting them. If they're considered fine then the number drops to 14, or 21%.
I suggest we do with a rename (maybe Voice Defining Actor?).
Edited by BreadBull on May 31st 2020 at 2:47:01 AM