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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#126: Mar 25th 2021 at 10:07:40 AM

I was planning on just monitoring the wick to check on new pages that used it, which generally indicates a substandard page.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#127: Apr 23rd 2021 at 8:33:18 AM

NWML got a too long warning. I'll look through it tonight to see what needs to move to other subpages.

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#128: Apr 23rd 2021 at 9:37:37 AM

One thing that I've had a hard time with (I did spend a bit of time on the wicks a little while back) was determining when a listing is no longer appropriate/needed. Do all of the listed pages still Need attention?

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#129: Apr 23rd 2021 at 10:34:21 AM

There are also listings that don't indicate what the pages need.

I did remove a couple entries, at least.

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#130: Apr 23rd 2021 at 3:08:47 PM

Just did another cleanup of the wicks. Strangely, most of the pages actually meet wiki standards (despite the wick being added sometime this year).

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underCoverSailsman Peeks from Under Rocks from State of Flux Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Peeks from Under Rocks
#131: Apr 23rd 2021 at 3:18:03 PM

That's what my impressions were of some that a checked a while back. Is it possible that (Maybe based on the title?) people are trying to use this more as "Look at this cool page! It deserves more views/attention"?

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#132: Apr 23rd 2021 at 6:52:42 PM

Went down to Comic Book/ on the general NWML. Removing the one-issue items there removed the warning.

We still have quite a ways.

Edit: Toggled a subjective banner on the page as another stray wick countermeasure.

Edited by Berrenta on Apr 23rd 2021 at 9:44:40 AM

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It wasn't a rock
#133: May 7th 2021 at 9:51:14 AM

Had to cull plenty of entries in the Video Games folder alone. Plenty of DOS/Amiga-era titles created from years back that only had a few tropes (a lot of the time a good deal of those tropes aren't elaborated on very well or can't be in cases of No Plot? No Problem!) with minor/cosmetic changes at best in the years since, and I'm not even done combing the folder.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on May 7th 2021 at 9:57:08 AM

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#134: May 19th 2021 at 11:42:12 AM

I thought I brought it up before, but I'm feeling too sick to hunt the previous pages. Now that the main page is sorted by category, I think the request "Please italicize the names of works in order to separate them from the trope names." isn't needed and we should remove it. Tropes are in the trope folder, not scattered into the various alphabetical folders.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#135: May 19th 2021 at 3:38:58 PM

[up] Consider that done.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#136: May 29th 2021 at 11:13:35 AM

There is a page called Meta, and I am not sure what it is supposed to be. I reckon it should be cut.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#137: Sep 6th 2021 at 1:27:00 PM

Guess who had to remove some NWML wicks, again. Looks like moving the page to Administrivia isn't enough.

How are we going to tell new tropers "Hey, please do not add this link to a page" without having to do it after the fact?

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#138: Sep 7th 2021 at 12:22:48 PM

Numerous notifiers as a preventative measure with individual tropers?

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#139: Sep 7th 2021 at 12:25:40 PM

[up][up]We added a line to the page clarifying it, but uhhhh

that relies on people reading the page instead of just using it like a predefined message so we expect it will see limited results

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#140: Sep 7th 2021 at 12:52:00 PM

I mean, it hasn't worked for Work Pages Are A Free Launch, so...

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delayedboom she/her Since: Sep, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#141: Sep 13th 2021 at 12:18:52 PM

Hello,

Caravanner is listed on the page, though it was recently cutlisted for being a duplicate of Caravaneer. I think the remaining page is long enough and has enough tropes to be taken out of the Needs Wiki Magic Love page.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#142: Sep 13th 2021 at 12:33:27 PM

You can remove the wick yourself if you want to.

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delayedboom she/her Since: Sep, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#143: Sep 13th 2021 at 12:34:51 PM

Oh, from the looks of the page I thought it was a curated one and had to make requests, I will cut the entry now.

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wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#144: Sep 13th 2021 at 12:40:35 PM

Definitely recommend crosswicking that page, though.

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#145: Sep 13th 2021 at 1:06:09 PM

In response to Berrenta's question, I'm not sure it's even worth having Wiki Magic Love at all. I understand that it was meant to help pages with no attention get more attention, but to me it just sounds like what I've heard happened with Please Elaborate except with works instead of trope examples. I wonder if it needs a wholesale cut.

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wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#146: Sep 13th 2021 at 1:33:09 PM

Eh maybe

NWML isn't constructed the same way Please Elaborate was (it's an index, it's about entire pages not just individual examples) so in principle it shouldn't have the same problems

it's just the whole "oh I don't want to finish this page I will slap this predefined message down as a cry for help" thing


e: Maybe recut Main.Needs Wiki Magic Love with a reason more like "Misused as predefined message"? Just "Main redirect" by itself doesn't give any impression of "please don't wick this on works pages", and they don't have to read the page to find the namespace from the auto-disambig.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Sep 13th 2021 at 3:38:37 AM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#147: Sep 13th 2021 at 9:25:52 PM

...at this rate, we'll have to bring the page to TRS again.

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#148: Sep 13th 2021 at 9:47:14 PM

How about renaming to something like "Pages Needing Wiki Magic Love", or even "List of Pages Needing Wiki Magic Love"? I see it already has a redirect at Pages Needing Wiki Magic

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#149: Sep 14th 2021 at 1:15:16 AM

Hmm. I saw Cibus Esculentus Madoka Magica on the list and when I checked the history I saw the original addition was in 2015...

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CyberController Blitzy.... from Pride Ring Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
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#150: Sep 14th 2021 at 6:18:45 PM

Why is that even on the wiki. It’s a pure fetish fic.

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