Character pages are a large chunk of the wiki, but they're often filled with problems that don't get resolved. These problems include:
- Zero Context Examples
- Indentation problems, including bulleting tropes under supertropes or tropeslashing
- Spoiler tag misuse
- A lack of alphabetization
- Empty character folders
- Plagiarized character descriptions
- Misused tropes, or tropes that don't belong on character pages
- Broken or incorrect formatting
- Subjective / Trivia trope mentions
Per How to Create a Character Page, character pages should only include tropes that describe the characters. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, Unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask about that at Are These Character Tropes.
All characters must have at least one contextualized trope for their section or folder to be visible. If you find a character that has no contextualized tropes present, comment out the entire section and add this tag:
Other relevant threads:
- Problems with pre-existing images on Characters page need to go via Image Pickin'. Low quality images can usually be upgraded without discussion, but don't change or delete images without Image Pickin' approval.
- Character Specific Pages have their own separate cleanup thread
- Self-demonstrating character pages also have their own thread.
- Inanimate objects and locations on character pages have their own cleanup thread
- Character pages for Reality Show contestants are on-topic here, but there's also a dedicated Reality Show cleanup thread which deals with the No Real Life Examples, Please! grey areas these shows create, and may sometimes be a better place to discuss them.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 26th 2024 at 6:20:01 PM
Personally, I don't see the harm in creating folders for inanimate objects, especially if they are important to the story. After all, we have plenty of tropes about objects.
I think it makes the tropes better organized and easier to find. For example, let's say someone is reading a character page because they are looking for a specific trope that they forgot the name of about the character's weapon. If the weapon has its own folder, they can find the trope immediately. If not, they'll have to scroll the whole page for a while.
It's been discussed a hundred something times over by now, but the reason we want to keep characters specifically focused on, well, characters is that the pages are intended to be sections to learn about the characters and what role they play in the story, not to just organize tropes for things.
Anyway, if you want to dispute this, you'd need to do it at Wiki Talk (probably here) because right now this is the current rule.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessSo the Spider-Man (Insomniac): Peter Parker's Suits and Spider-Man (Insomniac): Miles Morales' Suits pages need to be gutted, and the applicable tropes from the Black Suit and Symbiote Suit folders moved to Spider-Man (Insomniac): Venom, then?
They were brought up before and I argued these need to be disintegrated as these aren't characters.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupIf an object is important to a character, then it should probably just be in that character's folder. If not, just leave it on the work page, because it's not a character...
I agree that having things that aren't characters on Characters/ pages is unhelpful.
LP Deprecation Cleanup | Ask me about SMPLiveI'll move the symbiote-related tropes over to Venom's page, in that case.
Edited by Arawn999 on Nov 24th 2023 at 10:53:27 AM
Why don't we move the suits to Peter and Miles's character pages , or are they too long?
I'm not sure. Would that be a possible workaround to deleting them entirely?
Edited by Arawn999 on Nov 25th 2023 at 4:32:57 AM
I see no issue trying to move them elsewhere where possible.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupIf we can pin character tropes to them, they can go under the folder for the character who's wearing them. If not, thay can move back to the works page's main trope list.
Not personally convinced that an object with no personality should ever get a character page folder of its own, though.
I've just put together a sandbox for Pokémon: Team Rocket, since that organisation overlaps two generations. Right now the byte count exceed 57,000.
Regarding the Gundam character sheets, many of the characters overlap in-between a few series (such as Gundam and Zeta Gundam, Gundam SEED and Gundam SEED Destiny, and so on). Given that, I've been thinking about something: should we do a project on merging the relevant character pages (i.e. Mobile Suit Gundam and Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam into Characters.Mobile Suit Gundam Universal Century; Characters.Mobile Suit Gundam SEED, Characters.Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny and Characters.Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Freedom into Characters.Mobile Suit Gundam Cosmic Era; and so on) if no one objects to it?
Edited by gjjones on Dec 2nd 2023 at 11:14:53 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.Bumping my query for an All There in the Script example in Characters.Street Fighter V that no longer applies as of Street Fighter 6.
"As long as I have my comrades with me, I can do anything!" (She/Her) (Current Focus: Cleaning Hell Is That Noise misuse)Rick and Morty: School is only at 24,426 bytes and is too small to be a page. I'm proposing that it be merged into Rick and Morty: Others. The only thing I'm worried about is the page being too long, as it would become 171,584 bytes.
On a related note, I also think the Space Cruiser should be moved to Rick and Morty: The Smith-Sanchez Family, as not only did Rick create it, He based it's A.I. off of his dead wife.
It's gonna be fun on the bun!On Neptunia - Others, there are at least six characters that have an important role in the main story, not just for one arc in-between (Umio, Nepgya, Dogoo Man, and Dogoo Lady in VII; Anri, Ziri, and Aneeta Job in Sisters), and out of the six at least three of them are playable note . Is it okay if we move the folders to a separate page dedicated to them? (e.g. Neptunia Other Important Characters, Neptunia Supporting Characters, Neptunia Other Playable Characters). I also think that Ganache, Singe, Yvoire, and the Brothers should be moved under the "Minor Antagonists" folder on Neptunia - Antagonists since they serve as one of the antagonists in the original game and its remake.
"The name's Uzume Tennouboshi! Yeah, it's pretty badass, I know." - Uzume, Megadimension Neptunia VIITake a look at Oh Shiitake Mushrooms - past the introduction, there's only one sentence, and it's an incomplete sentence.
Edited by FSharp on Dec 14th 2023 at 2:37:11 AM
Welcome to Corneria!Looking at the main work page, I'm not entirely convinced this is tropable, either :/
Edited by Serilly on Dec 14th 2023 at 5:06:25 AM
LP Deprecation Cleanup | Ask me about SMPLiveSnipped, notifier sent beforehand re: the foldering. I did mention the cut in the notifier text.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportCharacters.QSMP definitely needs to be split up, I think... Not for length but because it is absurdly difficult to navigate.
I will probably bring it up in the discussion tab and brainstorm how to divide it up later after the purgatory announcement (Since that will bring us um... A lot of new characters!)
Edited by Serilly on Dec 17th 2023 at 1:41:50 AM
LP Deprecation Cleanup | Ask me about SMPLiveCharacters.Midnight Sleuth may need to be merged into the work page; a majority of the folders are blank (or essentially blank)
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessCan someone check the work first, before deciding whether to merge?
Yeah, go on.
Absolute RainbowCharacters.Zekkyou Gakkyuu is hard-split by volumes. Mind if I merge them back? They in sum only take 62 kbytes.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupOkay I’ve Crosswicked the Goku vs Superman folders for DEATH BATTLE! and the page would be 54,426 bytes. If there’s no objection I’d like to make the page.
Characters.DC Super Hero Girls 2019 was split recently, and while that's good, the main page is now formatted very weirdly, with headers being used for each section rather than just simple bulleted potholes. That should be easy to fix, but I have to ask: should Characters.DC Super Hero Girls 2015 be listed at the bottom? I suppose it's supposed to function as a disambiguation of sorts, but it strikes me as rather pointless.
back lol
Not as far as I'm aware.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup