Woobie.Yu Gi Oh and Woobie.Sailor Moon were just made and they both need help—both have serious natter issues as well as This Troper in YGO, and while the YGO page seems to take from the franchise as a whole, the one entry that was on the original YMMV page is no longer there and is written in first-person. (The original YGO is kind of a World Of Woobie since almost everyone has traumatic backstories, abusive parents, etc. to varying degrees, with most spinoffs following suit.) Here's a write-up of Ryo Bakura's entry.

• Ryo Bakura lost his mother and sister in a car crash at a young age. He spends almost the entire series under the control of a sadistic ancient spirit. He had to constantly change schools, living with the guilt and negative stigma of having his friends fall into a coma whenever they played a game with him because of Dark Bakura. After Yugi and his friends free him of the Ring's influence, he puts the Ring back on to escape a maze at Duelist Kingdom, becoming an unknowing pawn for the spirit thereafter. At Battle City, as part of a plan to help Marik, Yami Bakura stabs Bakura's arm so badly he had to be hospitalized. Even then he can't get rest, as his body's dragged out of bed to duel Yugi and Dark Marik, the latter of whom killed him temporally. At the beginning of the Millennium World arc, Bobasa refuses to let him into the Pharaoh's mind, despite his desire to help his friends, because of the darkness within his heart, which is the evil spirit of the ring. He puts on a smile and runs away in tears, and any peace he could get from being free of the Ring isn't shown. The anime does very little to make it better and greatly reduces his screentime, omitting him entirely from non-manga adapted adventures. Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dark Side of Dimensions shows even more tragedy in his life, as he was possessed by the Ring when he was young and had it fuse into his chest, with the Ring also attacking his father when he tried to wear it. Dark Bakura then kills Shadi, and Aigami wants to kill Bakura for the incident. Ryo mentions not wanting to talk about the Ring at all and suffers headaches when pressed, then becomes trapped in another dimension for the last third of the movie. The Ring itself also tries to kill him at one point.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:50:18 PM

The Protomen enhanced my life.

While it's true I've started the pages, I was too occupied cleaning up the examples by media to consider doing an actual cleaning of them.

Right now, I'm trying to cleanup the Video Game page.

IPP Wick Check created.

Alright next ep and proof being an Occult Detective sucks. I give you October Daye, Harry Dresden's Distaff Counterpart

What's the work ?'

October Daye tells the story of October "Toby" Daye is a private investigator. She's also a changeling — daughter of a faerie creature of the Summerlands and a human. A loyal knight, she was investigating the disappearance of her liege's daughter. Her liege's Evil Twin busted her doing it, and the consequences of being caught cost her fourteen years of her life and everything that mattered to her.

As a result, Toby cut herself off from dealing with the fae world, and lived as a recluse and hiding her fae appearance under spells and illusions, until another fae, with her dying breath, geased a reluctant Toby via answering machine to solve her murder. This is where the adventure in Rosemary and Rue starts. Toby must return to the fae community to solve the case or literally die trying thanks to the geas. To her astonishment, the fae community is happy to have her back. And once she solves this case, she only finds more to do.

So whoose the candaiate ?

Why October herself. Alright from the top:

• She was born a half fae and half human changeling in 1952, though her mother planned on shifting her blood to 1oo% human. Her plan being that the fae would need to kill her off should she not pick fae to kepp there secret. However when she was 7, her uncle Sylvester Torquill, intervened and had her taken to the summerlands. After negelct via her mother, she ran away at 25 but was physically 16.
• She lived on the streets for years, starved and was miserable. She was discovered by Devin (Fagin mixed with Peter Pan. He would take young changelings and help turn them into criminlas working for him) found her just as she'd reached the end of her rope. He took her to Home, fed her, and told her she'd never have to go back. He used "little favors" that turned into bigger assignments. He would visit her room at night, he later seduced her and she lost her virginty to him. Somewhat creepy, sinnce he's centuries old.
• Eventually she left after she got pregnant via a human with her daughter and she and Devin had a huge fight with stuff being thrown at ech other before breaking up. She become a knight under Sylvyster after years of studying. Now around 4 years after her daughter was born, Sylvysters brother Simon kidnapped Sylvyster;s wife and daughter
• Toby tried to tail Simon and his accomplice Oleander, she is eventually discovered and forcibly turned into a koi fish. Toby lost 14 years of her mortal life and by the time she broke free of the enchantment, both her daughter and husband wanted nothing to do with her and she gave up on her life. Meaning she list them for good.
• After Evening was "murdered" (She's still alive and I'll ep her one day in the Complete Monster thread), Toby was forced into investigating her death. This reunited her with Devin, her friends from Home (including finding new ones in the form of the young Dare. Turns out it was Devin who attempted to murder Evening and was actively sending out threats to kill her, she confronts him at Home. Devin only manages to kill Dare. This leaves Toby with crippling guilt for years after the fact.
• In book 5, Toby's daughter is kidnapped by Raysel. Gillian though gets shot with a posin lethal to changelings hence forcing Toby to shift her blood to human, and her child hood friend and romance partner Connor is killed (Tbf I didnt really like Connor and preferred her with her other Love Interest Tybalt but uh she ended up with Tybalt anyway, so who am I to complain). Since her daughter is now human, she's forced to leave her for good.
• The combination of losing her daughter and lover (Connor was also her childhood friend back in faerie land drives her near sucidial and in the process she is almost killed. Her half sister and Tybat eventually manage to snap her out of her depression and she picks herself up and moves on later even starting a relationship with Tybalt
• In book 11, Toby manages to find some time to relax until her mother Amandine finally returns to her life after a lengthy absence, demanding that Toby find her other half sister August . Despite the fact Amandine is insulting her about her talent at the same time. Even though Toby refuses (With even plans to find her own her own), Amandine captures Tybalt and hold him hostage.

Toby and Quentin escort August back to Amandine, who selfishly tries to exploit a loophole in how long she keeps Tybalt. (By keeping him for centuries) Already worn out from August's assault, losing Simon again and Amandine's selfishness, Toby threatens her own mother. August, surprisingly does a heroic act and convinces Amandine to release her prisoners. Although Amandine relents, satisfied that her own daughter was back, Amandine abandons Toby completely, revealing that she never really loved Toby at all. Ouch...

Is she sympathethic by the standards of the story?

Yes. October has a crappy life (Not quite Dresden's impressive level but still pretty bad). She truly feels the impact of what's happened to her. Plus she goes through A LOT of pain, over the course of these novels she's been tortured over an entire night, Mind raped, Stabbed through the heart, being disemblowed and fallen of a a building that was 30 feet. Fun fact, all the covers have her drenched in her own blood in the images, thank god for her Healing Factor and Resurective Immortality. She also has had some bad shit happen to her. She lost her daughter, her best friend, fiance, her childhoodFriendRomance and even disocvered that her mother never cared about her at all, she does let it effect her but she does ultiamtely try and do the right thing becuase its the right thing. She also genunily loves Tybalt and cares about her apprenctice as if he were her own son and cares about her friends and loves ones.

So yeah I give her a and would befine with it being a gneral woobie as well.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 9th 2018 at 2:13:20 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

To October.

I plan on cleaning the normal woobie Fan Works page sooner or later if no one is up to it.

IPP Wick Check created.

Sure on October Daye..

P.S. is it me or is the recent batch hasnt been posted yet on both main page and its respective YMMV page?

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Nov 9th 2018 at 5:14:08 PM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."

Yes to October.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

Okay I've purged around 800+ woobie entries of varying types.

Any one up for a re-evaluation page? If so, I can start up subpages that each have up to around 40 entries I feel may have a shot of being put back if each candidate qualifies.

One thing you people should know is that I haven't bothered with alphabetizing as there were so many examples.

Anyone volunteering to do the re-evaluation can place their username by the entry listed.

Started a Woobie Re-Evaluation page.

It's not 100% organized, but if anyone wishes to re-evaluate an entry I've cut, please put your username by it.

Edited by MasterJoseph on Jan 19th 2019 at 10:33:38 AM

IPP Wick Check created.

Alright sorry it took so long but here is my draft for Anna under Iron Woobie:

• Frozen: Princess Anna has been isolated under the castle and being shut out for Elsa for 13 years without any explanation as to why and upon losing her parents, is left to mourn them alone without her sister to comfort her. Despite this, she continues to love her sister and never gave up hope on reconnecting with each other. Even in the present times, when she got struck in the heart to a painful death by her sister and betrayed by the man she thought was her true love, she retains her caring and optimistic attitude to the point that when given the opportunity between getting a kiss to save herself or saving Elsa from being killed by Hans, she immediate rushes in to save her sister from being killed instead. In the end in spite of all the odds against her, her selfless Act of True Love has not only saved everyone including herself but also allows her to finally reconnect with her sister after being separated for so long.

Elsa could very well be both a Destroyer Type and a Stoic Woobie have seen Frozen quite a few times. But to October (where's November and July?) and Anna's writeup.

Edited by Klavice on Nov 11th 2018 at 11:35:23 AM

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

Well October's sisters (Half-sisters actually) are called May and August. So.

Edited by miraculous on Nov 12th 2018 at 2:49:35 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

I think it's funny how some of the most hated Disney villains (Hans for example) are Hate Sinks.

And that is interesting to name characters after months besides May. Kind of reminds me of the theme naming of APH after countries.

I think I'll do a Jerkass Woobie post on Miles Edgeworth and Valant Gramarye shortly.

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

@Klavice Any plans you will post the batch right now to its respective YMMV pages and also their respective Woobie pages?

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."

I've already taken care of business with my writeups.

IPP Wick Check created.

Currently I am adding the entire approved batch (minus Joseph's writeups as I see he already took care of them) to each YMMV and Woobie page.

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

I think Jerk Ass Woobie entries should go in their respective entries while Light Novel entries go into anime/manga.

IPP Wick Check created.

I'll try that, thanks. I'm gonna need some help at adding examples though as I am but one man. I already put Jerkass Woobie under woobie but marked each example as jerkass woobie. I find it is much easier that way and the page would be barren if not for the IW and JW. Besides, Woobie pages list both Jerkass Woobie and Iron Woobie amongst regular woobie. And while I intend to have a more troper friendly sorting system, at this point Jerkass Woobie is probably fine the way it is for now.

Edited by Klavice on Nov 12th 2018 at 6:30:30 AM

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

@Klavice Cool. Btw, before proposing more candidates from me. Think you can post the future batches in every Monday night just like ACW or 43110. That's why I delayed it a little bit.

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."

Okay so I did most of the writeups, I still have a few to go before I'm caught up. Think I'll try and make my Monday the "posting writeups" day. I even put up Anna's write-up!

Edit: And done! I think I got everyone that posted here aside from Joseph who did his own.

Still thinking of how to Abridge Twilight's current entry into one condensed writeup.

Edited by Klavice on Nov 12th 2018 at 11:51:51 AM

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

@Klavice Nice... And one more thing, you can also try to purge all the writeups in the drafts once they are on both the main page and their respective work pages YMMV IMO and if they have no pages, its alright. This is so that you could have some leeways when it comes to the new batch. Sorry if I annoy you regarding this.

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Nov 14th 2018 at 3:31:42 AM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."

Let's see if I can EP Lucas and do a proper writeup for him now that I've gotten farther in MOTHER 3 and I know exactly what he goes through. I saw him on the re-evaluation and decided what better time than now to re-evaluate him.

What's the work?

MOTHER 3 is a JRPG and the third installment in the Earthbound or in Japan MOTHER series. It features mostly kids (though some teens like Kumatora have also done this) using psychic powers known in English as PSI or in Japanese as PK to defeat some of the craziest enemies ever. Ever wanted to fight a Traffic sign, a taxi, a Grumpy Old Man, and a New-Age Retro Hippie all in one game? Well now you can! Mother 3 is a sequel to Earthbound presumably taking place in another time period prior to Earthbound/Mother 2, but considering the main villain is FROM Earthbound that's kind of a time paradox. It's not quite specified if this is before EB or after, but likely before as Technology starts off pretty bare bones and technology is pretty 18th centuryish. Until the Pigmask army led by a douchebag named Fassad comes and modernizes the whole world.

Mother 3 follows the adventures of a young preteen named Lucas, his brother Claus, their father Flint, their mother Hinawa, and their dog Boney. There are characters Lucas meets outside of the family, but that's for later.

Who is Lucas?

Lucas is the main character of Mother 3. He starts out as a boy you have to save as the boy's father, Flint. In the beginning Lucas plays with the Dragos (dinosaur like creatures, looking mostly like Tyrannosaurus Rexes.) with his older twin brother Claus at Alec (the boy's grandfather and Hinawa's father) house out in the wilderness.

At first the game seems pretty kind, for all of some 10 minutes into the game until at home in Tazmily Village, a fire breaks out in the forest blocking Lucas, Claus, and Hinawa's return from Alec's house. This forces Flint to spring into action and go searching for his family. Naturally, as you would expect from a tragedy, he finds his beautiful wife killed by an evil Drago, but Lucas and Claus are alive. Going insane with grief, Flint lashes out at the boys and the townsfolk causing him to be imprisoned in Tazmily's jail cell.

After burying her in Tazmily's graveyard, Claus vows to avenge his mother and takes a fang from the Drago that killed his mom, and heads off, never to be seen again. Years pass by, and the Pigmask Army reaches Tazmily Village causing the technology of the village to change drastically. During Lucas' adventure through the old castle just north of his hometown, he meets up with the castle's elusive princess, a young teenage girl named Kumatora.

As Flint is MIA as well as Claus, Lucas sets off on a journey with some friends namely Kumatora who he meets again after the timeskip in a Club called (I kid you not) Club Titiboo. (No relation to Lake Titicaca). He also meets an amnesiac Duster, a middle aged man who was friends with Flint and Hinawa, and someone who had met Lucas when he was younger along with a monkey named Salsa, as the guitarist and lead vocalist. After convincing him he's Duster and not a singer and guitarist, Duster suddenly remembers where he had buried the egg he buried to keep out of the Pigmask army's clutches, and they set out to find it with Boney the dog. Duster's father and Alec are imprisoned in a senior's center which is built very much like a prison. After finding the egg, they end up separated but not before meeting an enigmatic figure known as the Masked Man, who looks surprisingly like Lucas. Gee, I wonder who that could be?

Lucas then goes on a journey of heartache, watching friends like the magypsies who helped him and his brother die from each needle pull, watching the Pigmask army conduct horrific experiments on the wildlife transforming them into monstrous cyborgs, and then finally confronts the masked man. Turns out, the Masked Man was really Claus and was being controlled by the true leader of the Pigmask Army, none other than Pokey/Porky Minch, who has traveled through time after his defeat at the hands of Ness and his companions.

After a very tragic "I Know You Are in There Somewhere" Fight, it ends with Lucas tearfully watching as Claus breaks free of Pokey's control and commits suicide.

And Flint is now emotionally distant. Great.

Is he sympathetic by the standards of the story?

I would say so. After all, look at that massive wall of text showing just an abridged version of the pure unadulterated horror Lucas goes through at the hands of Pokey and the Pigmask army. His brother dies at the end, his mother dies quickly at the beginning, and his father doesn't seem to care much about him because he is that broken. Damn. How this remained an E rated game in Japan is beyond anyone's comprehension. I guess because Japanese are used to stuff like this.

Can he defend himself?

Lucas spends most of the time crying his eyes out at all the horror, and while he can use some PK psychic powers he's mostly The Medic, compared to Kumatora who is a tough Tsundere tomboy and Duster who holds all of his pain in, and isn't much of a fighter. So I would say not really?

Verdict?

Easy keep for regular Woobie.

Edited by Klavice on Nov 13th 2018 at 2:02:18 AM

Fair warning: I can get pretty emotional and take things too seriously.

Yes to Lucas.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread

Lucas

IPP Wick Check created.

Time for Strider Candidate # 3

MasterJoseph: What is the Work?

Terrible_Cage: Strider Hiryu is a 6-volume manga published in 1988, and the first release in the Strider series of video games, being worked alongside the better-known Arcade game and the NES version. Set on a dystopian and still-Communist Kazakh in 2048 just like the video games, the manga focuses more on the Strider organization and their alliance with a shady Mega Corp known as "Enterprise". In this story Hiryu retired from the Striders 2 years before after an incident in which his beloved sister Mariya went crazy and he was forced to kill her in self-defense, and was living a peaceful life until the appearance of his former superior Matic, the Striders' vice-director, who forces him to take on a mission to eliminate his good friend Cain, captured during a mission. As the story unfolds Hiryu uncovers the "ZAIN Project", a project to create a brainwashing machine with the intention of mind-controlling all of humanity, and Matic's involvement in both this and in his sister's death, setting him on a quest to stop them all at once.

Joseph: Who is the candidate?

Cage: Rin is a little girl who makes her appearance during the 1st chapter of the manga. She is a member of the Mongolian nomads who had setup camp at the base of the plateau Hiryu choose to live after retiring from the Striders. Hiryu met her at the plateau when he first arrived, and ever since then they have been living together. Although not brought up, the fact she was found alone on a plateau doesn't paint the best picture, and she was probably an orphan just like Hiryu. Rin is a very cheerful kid in contrast to Hiryu's stoic and melancholic disposition, and she looks up to him and seems to try her best assist him, be it making him a meal or trying to cheer him up. On the other hand, she reminds Hiryu of his dear sister Mariya. The two spent a peaceful time living together for 2 years. Then one day they were having a nice lil' chat, Rin spots a strange airship. And all goes downhill.

Noticing a Strider mark on it, Hiryu rushes ahead. Rin watches as Hiryu suddenly leaves their place at inhumanly fast speed, something she has never seen him do as he made a point of keeping his abilities and past as a Strider a secret to everyone. Worried, she follows him into the village. As soon as she arrives, she tries to approach Hiryu, only to be yelled at to stay back. Visibly shocked at Hiryu raising his voice at her for the first time, she stands back and watches as Hiryu refuses to follow Matic's orders. Noticing Rin and the villagers, Matic decides to take another approach and orders two of his men to attack them. But if seeing two masked assailants rush at her with clawed arms ready to kill her is not enough, she then witnesses Hiryu's quick action to save the villagers...by violently hacking away the arms of the two men. Rin's immediate reaction is to cry out and look away from Hiryu in total fear, then run away with all other villagers. This fell into Matic's plan, having Hiryu reveal his terrifying skills to the villagers as a way to shatter his ties with them and force him to leave the place. Once he makes a direct threat to eliminate the whole village, Hiryu finally resigns and accepts Matic's mission.

Joseph: Is she sympathetic by the standards of the story?

Cage: Sympathy? The day Matic grazed Rin's village may have been the most important of her life, but for him...ehm! Sorry, wrong Capcom villain :P.

After having lived what for all intent and purpose was an idyllic time with Hiryu, we are treated to the spectacle of seeing it all crumble away in a few quick moments. From discovering Hiryu's superhuman skills and observing the once calm and stoic man become downright scary, to discovering he was not only an assassin in the past but also being witness of his monstrous power as he slices two men's arms apart leaves her crying out of fear and unable to look at him. Although later the village Elder later comes and assures Hiryu that Rin and the others know he's an honest man and he will be welcome back, it is hard to believe everything would be back to normal or Rin would be able to look at him the same again, and the manga's ending gives no indication Hiryu even plans on returning to the village.

Joseph: Can she defend herself?

Cage: Defend? Not at all. Rin is a common girl and outside of a very good eyesight has no capacity to defend herself.

Joseph: Conclusion?

Cage: Conclusion? I'd argue she fits the Woobie trope well. For the little time she was on screen, Rin has just witnessed her whole life turn upside-down, witnessing how the gentle youth who took her in and provided her with a likely much more happy life is revealed to have secretly been an assassin in his past, a fact he kept hidden from her and the villagers, and even worse have a first-hand(No pun intended!) demonstration of just how efficient and terrifying he was at his occupation by slicing off two men's arm in front of her. Sure, he did it to save her and the villagers, but the whole scene was too much for a child, leaving her crying and unable to look at him. Although later the village Elder comes and assures Hiryu that Rin and the others know he's an honest man and he will be welcome back, it is hard to believe everything would be back to normal as easily and Rin would be able to forget what she just saw. Finally, there's no indication during the ending that Hiryu even plans to return to the village. It's more likely he did, but the possibility that the story ends with Hiryu leaving for parts unknown and never trying to return to her is not totally out of Hiryu's character, and would fit well with the rather sad undertones in the NES adaptation's ending.

Edited by MasterJoseph on Nov 14th 2018 at 2:26:15 AM

IPP Wick Check created.

Yes to the above

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."

Yes to Rin.

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread