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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#6001: Jan 9th 2024 at 9:45:36 AM

It exists. I linked it already. Here it is.

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ToonAbby Uzume's back baby! from Racing Dogoo Game Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Uzume's back baby!
#6002: Jan 9th 2024 at 3:00:16 PM

Apparently, on YMMV.Velma, Kingslayer38 re-added The Scrappy example for the title character a few days ago, even though a previous ATT from a few months ago claimed that "hated versions of a well-liked character" do not count as such, and neither does works with a reviled reception. The example doesn't even include the bullet point that all of the other examples have. I wanna snip the example, but knowing how awful the show is, I made a will to avoid touching any example from that work.

"The name's Uzume Tennouboshi! Yeah, it's pretty badass, I know." - Uzume, Megadimension Neptunia VII
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6003: Jan 9th 2024 at 3:02:40 PM

Definitely snip. In general I've noticed a problematic trend in Kingslayer's edits, and this is one of them.

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ToonAbby Uzume's back baby! from Racing Dogoo Game Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Uzume's back baby!
#6004: Jan 9th 2024 at 3:05:01 PM

[up] How much of a "problematic trend" in Kingslayer's edits are exactly?

Edited by ToonAbby on Jan 9th 2024 at 5:06:29 AM

"The name's Uzume Tennouboshi! Yeah, it's pretty badass, I know." - Uzume, Megadimension Neptunia VII
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6005: Jan 9th 2024 at 3:05:51 PM

I mean, they just have some issues of grammar and context that seems to seep in, but I was never confident enough to make a whole ATT report.

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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#6006: Jan 9th 2024 at 3:09:37 PM

On a different note -

There's a comment on The Scrappy stating that all examples must be approved via this thread.

%% NOTE: Before adding or removing any entries, go to this forum... DO NOT ADD OR REMOVE any characters unless you discuss them here

%% https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13598973560A64980100&page=1

This was flagged in a mod team chat, and it seems to have been unilaterally added in 2019.

Our understanding is that unlike Magnificent Bastard and Complete Monster, there is no such requirement for approval via thread (and if there was, we'd probably consider locking The Scrappy to enforce it, as with those tropes).

On that basis, does anyone here have any concerns if we delete the comment again?

Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 9th 2024 at 11:10:13 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6007: Jan 9th 2024 at 3:10:32 PM

That must have came from the time when a bunch of cleanup threads were being turned into CM copycat threads. I have no issue with removing it.

Edit: Though seeing who added it, that's a little odd. I don't remember this thread ever having such rules to begin with, anyway.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 9th 2024 at 6:11:48 AM

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Mariofan99 Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#6008: Jan 9th 2024 at 4:46:51 PM

Regarding this entry from The Living Daylights:

  • John Terry as Felix Leiter, who has all of four minutes of screentime and in the words of one critic has zero chemistry with Timothy Dalton's Bond. His brushed-off cameo of an appearance is especially jarring when you consider that it's the first time the character has appeared since all the way back in Live and Let Die, and his long-running chemistry with Bond would be a vital point in the next movie. (Maybe because of this, the actor who played Felix in Live and Let Die was brought back for said next movie.)

Can this count? From what I understand the current rule is to be considered The Scrappy you need to be hated in every appearance. Or is it fine in this case given the Bond films had wonky and light continuity pre-Daniel Craig, and its referring to a specific actor's Felix?

Echidna from Ontario, Canada Since: Aug, 2021 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#6009: Jan 9th 2024 at 4:51:02 PM

[up]Well to be honest he may not be well-recieved by many but I can see him going with that issue in mind.

Happyfrybreath Pls stop calling everything Harsher in Hindsight Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Pls stop calling everything Harsher in Hindsight
#6010: Jan 11th 2024 at 12:57:39 PM

I notice The Scrappy has been removed from reality shows, I am thus going to remove the Big Brother page Rescued from the Scrappy Heap if no one has any objections?

peterlo209 Since: Jun, 2023
#6011: Jan 11th 2024 at 4:57:51 PM
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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6012: Jan 11th 2024 at 4:59:25 PM

I hate to TL;DR someone but... TL;DR.

Seriously, put some paragraphs in or something mate.

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peterlo209 Since: Jun, 2023
#6013: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:04:54 PM
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#6014: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:07:37 PM
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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6015: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:08:55 PM

Okay, now that it's actually readable, I have to ask something. Are you asking us to put up an example for you? You can't do that if you're edit banned. You have to go through the ban process.

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peterlo209 Since: Jun, 2023
#6016: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:09:23 PM
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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#6017: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:11:35 PM

Please use the Edit button on top of the posts (the three dots allow you to edit) instead of reposting in the thread multiple times.

Second, the first one is far too long for a Scrappy entry, and just reads like a rant about a character you don't like. And I'm a bit more familiar with Star Wars to know Hux is definitely not a Scrappy, he's Base-Breaking Character at best, because there are people who are fans of him, and even people who ship him with Kylo Ren. A Scrappy has to be consistently hated, so if he started with mixed reactions, he doesn't count.

Edited by mightymewtron on Jan 11th 2024 at 8:11:55 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
peterlo209 Since: Jun, 2023
#6018: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:22:33 PM
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#6019: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:24:21 PM
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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6020: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:25:16 PM

You were just asked to use the edit feature.

And I just told you, asking for edits while you're banned is not allowed.

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peterlo209 Since: Jun, 2023
#6021: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:29:05 PM

i can't edit if i'm banned. when am i going to be unbanned? It has been a while anyhow.

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#6022: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:36:58 PM

You have to go through the appeal process at Edit Banned, where you already posted once. We can't help you with it.

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fanman Insert title here from Earth-Prime/Earth-1218 Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#6023: Jan 11th 2024 at 11:06:08 PM

The Dodgson post is also plagiarized from the Scrappy wiki. Like, copy and paste, which is why it's so long.

Edited by fanman on Jan 11th 2024 at 11:07:26 AM

compactwave Since: May, 2013
#6024: Jan 12th 2024 at 6:28:28 AM

Last May, I added this Scrappy entry to Pokémon Scarlet and Violet's YMMV page:

Amongst a cast of characters with colorful personalities, intriguing backgrounds - and especially in contrast to an Elite Four whose other members are beloved and have great synergy with one another - Geeta stands out for being incredibly boring and almost only ever relevant whenever Nemona is involved. It's also implied that she's the source of Larry's woes and has it out for him in particular for no good reason.

Despite the Scrappy criteria stating that all reasonings must be based in narrative, at one point somebody edited the entry to mention Geeta's infamous Anti-Climax Boss reputation amongst players. Shortly after that, the parts about her mistreatment of Larry - which is one of the primary reasons she is hated by the Pokémon fanbase - were cut following a debate on the game's YMMV discussion page about whether there was sufficient evidence in canon to suggest it as such.

Following its removal from both SV's YMMV page and the series' general Scrappy page as detailed here, I would like to request a review on whether Geeta classifies as a Scrappy based on further appearances and information divulged in the game's DLC.

While she is still regarded as having very little personality (and derided for it), I believe that a conversation she has with Larry further supports the claims I described in the initial Scrappy entry - he is clearly uncomfortable with being foisted off into more work-related duties, although I admit that it is ambiguous whether Geeta genuinely thought he would enjoy the opportunity or did this to antagonise him.

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#6025: Jan 12th 2024 at 11:20:47 AM

Maybe it could be reworded to something broad enough to capture the other interpretations of her character without insinuating they're true? "She also gets flak for hoisting extra work onto her employee Larry, seemingly without knowing (or caring) how exhausted he is."

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

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