All-Purpose Gundam Fanfiction Thread

Intent is hard to discern in text. So hostile reaction and accusing everyone of being easily offended isn't going to help.

This is the internet, misinterpretation happens far too easily.

It's also worth remembering that (a) bigotry isn't just sustained by active, violent hatred, and you can perpetrate and perpetuate crappy stuff without any ill intention (hell, a couple of Gundam shows touch on this, IBO in particular), and (b) your lived experience affects how you see the world, so other people may pick up on things you don't, because they've felt it more often and more closely - 'I don't see this' is not the same as 'this doesn't exist'.

Really, though, this isn't a big deal. Just that a Corrupt Corporate Executive Ancient Conspiracy is a trope with a certain degree of historical baggage to it, and specifically giving its weapons a name from Jewish folklore emphasises that baggage in a way you might want to avoid if you don't plan on deliberately digging into it. Keeping control of your subtext is a real important skill for a writer - hell, just look at the fact that we're posting in a thread for a franchise that's kept itself alive for almost forty years through spirited discussion of the same set of themes.

What's precedent ever done for us?

I'd consider applying the Dn D rule to this. That no matter what the origin of the Golem may be, so long as you keep it to what is considered the modern incarnation, a animate tool of clay serving its maker, then you should be fine.

Dig into protectorate and other details such as writing the orders and feeding it, then you may have a problem.

To be honest, part of the reason I decided not to use golem is because we have Jewish clay protectors wander around in the background and that means that subtext with Romefeller would be a bit more obvious then it is in a normal D&D setting.

That, and there is a setient mobile doll (or UMS as suggested), so even ignoring the subtext, it avoids some unnecessary confusion.

Let's change the subject, then.

What do you guys think, would it be suitable for Blue Cosmos to only take exception to genetic engineering but have no issues with cybernetic augmentation on the grounds that "at least a cyborg still has human flesh under the shell but a Coordinator was never human to begin with"?

In particular, I had a mental image of Neo Roanoke being replaced with a heavily cyborged Muruta Azrael, complete with Darth Vader-style executions of incompetent subordinates via his bionic arm's inhumanly strong grip. And behind the eyes-and-forehead-only Char-type horizontal mask, he'd also have a vertical mask covering the entire left side of his head, giving him an almost punk-like hairdo - except it's not actually a mask at all: the entire left half of his skull is missing and the vertical 'mask' is a bionic replacement for it to keep his cerebral, nasal and oral cavities from being exposed to the open air.

He's also missing both arms, his left leg and most of his ribcage, so he had those replaced as well. Oh, and he's forced to heavily medicate himself because bone shards from the destroyed portion of his skull are lodged too deeply into his brain to be safely removed, causing frequent epileptic seizures - on top of his greatly augmented hand-to-hand combat strength being handicapped by the synaptic connections between his nervous system and his cybernetics glitching and lagging if his body temperature spikes too high from extended physical activity.

My two cents is that should work, as long as they look askance at some the more brain altering cybernetics since those could arguably move someone further away from humanity then just a cyberarm. (When I think of more brain altering stuff, I'm thinking of decking and/or rigging cyberware from Shadowrun.)

Another suggestion is that you show such acceptance is not monolithic. Even though the general population of the organization may approve of cyberware, there would probably still be some purists who find it inherently dehumanizing.

I mean, cybernetics isn't any more "natural" than genetic engineering, so Blue Cosmos' origins as a radical environmentalist group should frown on both pretty equally if they're being logically consistent. But this is the same group of people who created the Extended, whose existence are are also obvious crimes against the natural order, so it's not like they haven't demonstrated a healthy level of doublethink to justify their anti-Coordinator racism before.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

Maybe have the cyborgs be a separate group entirely and make them a big ole threat to everyone since they can interface with their mobile suits allowing for sheer brutality in their battles as they control it like their own body.

Basically make Tekkadan.

Wait, if they are an environmental group, do you need to make sure that your cyber enhancements are made using more earth friendly mining and manufacturing techniques?

That is probably too technical a point for this story, but it is a thought.

A potential alternative is that Blue Cosmos do frown on augs, but Azrael is beyond the point of caring due to the urgency of needing the augs.

Also, between his injury and getting his augs, Azrael was clinging to life with his I-Won't-Lose attitude. He basically walked off a lethal injury on sheer hatred and spite. Before, it was just general racism; now, It's Personal.

Now consider the consequences of such a person having the wealth and influence to get his hands on Adam Jensen-grade augs. Not mass-produced prosthetics, custom-tooled one-of-a-kind stuff.

Is he going to be the only character with cyber augments?

Actually, now that the topic came up, I'm thinking of turning the Extendeds into cyborgs too - except in their case, all four limbs were replaced, the process wasn't voluntary or even consensual and instead of a drug addiction, they're being kept in line by Blue Cosmos having installed killswitches that can instantly power down their augs on command, basically leaving them quadruple amputees.

Hey everybody. A have some questions for you guys, and I hope you can help.

See, I'm working on a crossover fanfic, consisting of Ultraman Orb, Zone Of The Enders, and Super Robot Wars V

... Curious how ZOE never have any fanfics crossing over with other mecha anime series.

Anyway, I was wondering if any Gundams and other Mobile Suits from any era can stand up against the Orbital Frames, and vice versa. Especially Jehuty and Anubis for obvious reasons.

I plan for the story to begin where Crossbone Gundam started; around Jupiter, since the stories for both ZOE games and the manga began near the planet. Depending on how the game begins, it might change, but I hafta start somewhere.

I imagine the later UC Suits can stand up against the OF, but what about the earlier ones, and the ones from SEED Destiny and 00 Trailblazer? Picked them because they're in SRWV.

Also, I am tempted to bring back the 90s OVA Gundams. You know, 08th MS Team, War in the Pocket, and Stardust Memory?

Sucks that they rarely appear in crossover games, considering how weak their mechs are compared to the newer models. But I really want them.

They will all be post-season, since Zeta and Double Zeta are in the game, obviously they all went through the events of their respective stories.

I have this idea where the protagonist of the fic discovers the Gundam Project plans, and somewhat threatened to expose the truth to the world (whether I will do so or not, I need to watch the OVA to know if it's a good idea or not)

Also because I want to have the Dendrobium Orchis in action again.

08th MS Team will be difficult, since Shiro and Aina are obviously too content with their new life to fight again. But I want a tribute episode for them, involving the Ez 8 somehow being remade and given to Shiro in case they needed protection.

War in the Pocket... oh Christina Mackenzie, you poor thing.

I haven't thought of anything, other than bringing back the Alex and rename it as Alexis. Yeah, real original. It comes from the fact that it's actually named Alex-15, since it's an upgraded model.

In conclusion... how do both Mobile Suits and Orbital Frames stand up to each other, and should I bring back the 90s OVA Gundam characters? I know it's my choice in the end, but outside opinions helps me more.

A stranger is like the shadows.It is so common to the world everyone will just ignore them.

Depends of the Orbital Frame.

Anubis would be straight-up Turn A tier, for one.

I'm actually working on an SRW fic project that'll have the first ZOE game's plot mixed in with Gundam F91.

Anyway, I get the impression that most normal OF are probably on a similar level to equivalent Mobile Suits (that is, grunts are grunts and Ace Custom mecha are Ace Custom mecha). That said, Anubis and very definitely Naked Jehuty in Super Robot territory rather than Real Robot.

IIRC the general fandom consensus is that Cosmic Era tech is for the most part lower-level than equivalent UC tech, so Coordinator/SEED Mode shenanigans aside I'd probably expect Shinn in the Destiny to be on a similar-to or slightly lower level than Kamille in the Zeta. Meanwhile, Setsuna's 00-Qan[T] is pretty much the second most outrageously powerful MS in the entire franchise that I know of, with the only one to surpass it being the Turn-A.

I could take or leave 0083, and that mostly goes for 08th MS Team as well, but I'd absolutely be on board with more 0080.

Incidentally, I have a (currently hibernating) Dynasty Warriors: Gundam quest over on Sufficient Velocity, starring Bernie as the protagonist. His current allies include the crew of the Archangel (sans Gundam pilots), Aina, and....... Nena and Mark.

edited 24th Jan '17 10:25:36 PM by EvaUnit01

Crosspost from the Mahou Sensei Negima! fanfic thread, based entirely on abusing Names The Same.

Love that line.

Cosmic Era tech being at a lower level than equivalent Universal Century tech? Uh, no. Comparing straight stats, what little has been given of Cosmic Era Mobile Weapons -which is sad as I loved that little touch of previous Gundam background stuff-, Cosmic Era tech comes out ahead despite their best engines being fission-based rather than fusion based.

For example, the Nu Gundam's engine has a rating of 2980Kw while the Freedom's has a rating of 8826Kw... like I said, there's not many stats for CE tech, so I have no idea how across the board that difference is.

Been thinking about Gundam Fanfiction with more Automated Soldiers and such, less Mobile Suit more boarding action and everything with working AI machines.

Really? ....well, I was wrong, then. My bad.

I'm pretty sure I just ripped it straight from DWG 3 (or something very much like it, anyway), but thanks anyway.

To be fair, most Gundam writer aren't exactly physicist or engineer, so their stats and stuff might be skewed. That said, their tech might be different enough that straight up comparison might be iffy. For example, Minovsky Particles existence alone will ensure that automated sensory system will be different, and most likely more robust, since normal electronic system wouldn't work. Since fusion reactor is a thing, efficiency wouldn't be much issues, so big guns canbe developed quickly, but remote weapons is a bit stuntrd. In SEED, battery-dependent machines and MS will ensures that everything will be efficient, and colloid particles existence open ways for very robust, if a bit energy-intensive, physical armor and cloaking tech.

Yeah, trying to compare the various timelines of Gundam is like comparing apples and oranges. Each story operates under different technological paradigms and physical laws.

I think looking at the possible applications of a technology is a much better way of comparison. For example the Universal Century has fusion reactors, whereas the Cosmic Era uses fission reactors. In theory fusion technology should offer a higher output and much cleaner energy.

I am a simple man, I like stories therefore I dissect and discuss them.

So, this discussion is making me think of designing my own giant robot and a bit curious about what's been down in Gundam.

Is there any series that has a force that disrupts electronic communication and other more trollish tactics?

Most Gundam series have something that disrupts long range communications. The Universal Century has Minovsky Particles, Cosmic Era of Seed has N-Jammers, the Anno Domini of 00 has GN Particles, and the Post Disaster of Iron-Blooded Orphans has Ahab Waves.

Fate Grand Order players will know me as Ryusei-Go.

Gundam is the father of the Real Robot Genre, but it never has shed its Super Robot Genre roots completely, so it has some weird physics. I would suggest a look to the Minovsky Physics trope for further insight.

edited 18th Feb '17 12:59:02 PM by FictionAddiction

I am a simple man, I like stories therefore I dissect and discuss them.