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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2651: May 16th 2014 at 3:37:47 PM

Looking at the Trope Namer, I'm not sure any of the quotes work without the visuals. Here are the best ones.

Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#2652: May 16th 2014 at 4:32:48 PM

I think I'm going to take that link over to IP - the last two panels of the top comic would work really well.

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#2653: May 20th 2014 at 3:40:19 PM

I don't see how the Memnarch quote on All Your Powers Combined relates to the trope. Am I being too literal?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#2654: May 20th 2014 at 4:48:07 PM

Um, no, you aren't. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the trope... I suspect that you have to have context from the work for it to make sense.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#2655: May 20th 2014 at 8:01:38 PM

I suspect that you have to have context from the work for it to make sense.
I'm familiar with both Memnarch's card and the card the quote is from, and neither of them help. Maybe familiarity with the Magic novels would explain it.

At any rate, are we okay leaving this quoteless? I can't say I like any of the quotes in the Quotes section either.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#2656: May 21st 2014 at 9:17:33 AM

[up]The full quote from the trope-naming Expository Theme Tune might be better than nothing, even if it is in large part just restating the trope name.

Planeteers: Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Heart! Go Planet! Captain Planet: With your powers combined, I am Captain Planet!

What do you think about Lightning Can Do Anything? Decent-ish quote, but doesn't really have anything to do with the trope. I quite like the Yahtzee one on the quote tab, but I know people are averse to "complainy critic quotes".

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#2657: May 21st 2014 at 11:42:02 AM

Make-Out Kids has no source. I think it's just a saying. That's not good for a page quote, right?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#2658: May 21st 2014 at 1:19:31 PM

In that case, I don't think it's a problem. It's so well established that attributing it to anyone character would be kind of pointless.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
#2659: May 21st 2014 at 1:54:02 PM

[up]Yeah, I think that quote is perfect.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#2660: May 22nd 2014 at 1:31:44 PM

The full quote from the trope-naming Expository Theme Tune might be better than nothing

I was thinking about that, but didn't know the quote myself. Is anybody opposed to the switch?

What do you think about Lightning Can Do Anything? Decent-ish quote, but doesn't really have anything to do with the trope.

Eh, it's not exactly on the nose, but I kind of like it. Though I might like the Jimmy Lightning quote from the quotes page better.

m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#2661: May 27th 2014 at 9:41:34 AM

Removed the quote on A Dog Named "Dog" as it had the same one as This Is My Name on Foreign, and it fit the later one better.

Any suggestion for a new quote? A Dog Named "Dog" have quote page...

edited 27th May '14 9:46:26 AM by m8e

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2662: May 27th 2014 at 11:05:32 AM

Adaptive Ability has two quotes. I prefer the Darwin one.

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#2663: May 27th 2014 at 2:03:21 PM

Say, is there a style guide for quotes somewhere? I was about to make the swap on All Your Powers Combined when I realized I wasn't certain exactly how it should look.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2666: May 29th 2014 at 9:30:11 AM

Somebody pulled the quote on No-Sell, saying "Doesn't really demonstrate the trope." Thoughts?

Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#2667: May 29th 2014 at 7:57:45 PM

I call that nonindicative at best.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#2668: Jun 3rd 2014 at 2:02:53 PM

Glorious Leader has a rather long quote,which can be shortened;

"..The great Kim Jong Il was an outstanding ideologist and theoretician, peerless veteran statesman and brilliant military commander who led the revolutionary cause of Juche along the road of victory by dint of his profound ideas and theories and unexcelled leadership, and a great patriot and the benevolent father of the people..."

edit:So Empathic Weapon has two quotes,I thinking the bottom should stay.

edited 6th Jun '14 3:37:31 PM by Ultimatum

New theme music also a box
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2669: Jun 6th 2014 at 10:14:22 PM

Agreed on both. Your edit to Glorious Leader makes it clear that the quote is part of an unnecessarily long speech, and the first quote on Empathic Weapon is part of a conversation that doesn't make perfect sense on its own. Not sure the second one is perfectly accurate, though. Someone who's seen the episode recently will have to confirm.

As for No-Sell, from a few above, I've got a suggested replacement, but it might be too much Badass Boast and not enough No-Sell.

edited 6th Jun '14 10:14:45 PM by Discar

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#2670: Jun 7th 2014 at 4:11:32 PM

Can we at least remove the quote from Adventurer Archaeologist? It's not actually an example. The guy isn't calling on Indiana Jones for his methods, but how the Nazis just wreck stuff instead of even attempting archaeology.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2671: Jun 7th 2014 at 4:26:54 PM

Agreed. Anyone against?

Also made the edits to Glorious Leader and Empathic Weapon. Anyone else have an opinion on No-Sell?

edited 7th Jun '14 4:27:33 PM by Discar

DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
#2672: Jun 8th 2014 at 10:43:47 AM

[up]The suggestion for No-Sell sounds decent.

Seems to me that the quote on Obliviously Evil should go. Lewis was describing Well Intentioned Extremists, not people who do bad things because they're genuinely unaware that they are bad. Any other input on this?

edited 8th Jun '14 10:46:30 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#2673: Jun 8th 2014 at 11:12:19 AM

Gray's law (from the quotes page) might work as a replacement.

  • "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
    • Gray's Law

DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
#2674: Jun 8th 2014 at 3:03:15 PM

[up]I'm not entirely sure about that one, since it only describes one possible form of Obliviously Evil, but it's a huge improvement on the current.

It does not matter who I am. What matters is, who will you become? - motto of Omsk Bird
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#2675: Jun 9th 2014 at 12:46:29 AM

[up][up]That quote is just Hanlon's Razor with different wording.

Also, the Adventurer Archaeologist quote was pulled. Any suggestions?

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