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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#1: Jan 5th 2012 at 7:32:51 AM

There are a huge number of examples on Colour-Coded for Your Convenience that have to do with when a show assigns a color to each character as a way to visually tell them apart. I believe there are more than enough of them to make a new subtrope. If we do this, the page image should probably go to the new page, and this one will have to go back to IP.

While I've got this on the table, there have been people grumbling on the discussion page that we should swap this with the American English spelling redirect, since that is what the Trope Namer uses. I personally don't give a fig either way, but throwing it out there in case someone cares.

This should be an open and shut TRS, so lets get 'er done so we can open up the slot to others who need it. ^_^

edited 5th Jan '12 7:34:33 AM by ccoa

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Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#2: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:00:55 AM

The vast bulk of the examples and the trope description are about characters. What would be left if you split them off?

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#3: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:09:38 AM

Isn't Chromatic Arrangement already this?

And is so, can we discuss renaming that instead?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#4: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:11:59 AM

^^The supertrope that we originally intended this to be. It's fine if this has few examples, it was always meant to be a high-level supertrope.

I count over 40 examples that would stay on the page, although some of them better belong on already established subtropes and I'd clean those up at the same time.

EDIT: ^Chromatic Arrangement would be a subtrope of Color-Coded Characters. It's specifically a trio of red (or pink), green, and blue colored characters only.

edited 5th Jan '12 8:13:51 AM by ccoa

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#5: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:14:36 AM

High level supertropes don't need a large number of examples. Splitting off a new subtrope is a good idea.

Chromatic Arrangement is having a Red character, a Blue character, and a Green/Yellow character. It's actually much narrower than the name makes it sound.

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Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#6: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:16:59 AM

Okay, we can split off Color-Coded Characters, but we need to rewrite the description of Colour-Coded for Your Convenience to take the emphasis off characters specifically, and do something about the name of Chromatic Arrangement to narrow its scope.

edited 5th Jan '12 8:17:47 AM by Auxdarastrix

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#7: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:27:18 AM

Primary Colors Trio?

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#8: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:29:13 AM

[up][up] I agree with everything.

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#10: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:33:38 AM

Chromatic Arrangement is Red, Blue, Green, Rainbow Motif is using all the colors of the rainbow in the same way.

There are so many different ways color coded Costumes, Hair, Eyes yada that this should really be an index with lots of subtropes.

Elemental Motif, Elemental Eye Colors, Color Coded Hair Colors thematic outfits fitting their elemental's color, powers matching their color etc. Icons on status screen, Color Coded combat text, color coded Subtitles.

(Taken to the extreme here, outfits, eyes, hair, swords and well more not pictured.)

edited 5th Jan '12 8:35:19 AM by Raso

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#11: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:39:41 AM

^I can get behind that as long as we have enough examples of each without so much overlap between the sister tropes that they might as well be one trope.

Primary Colors Trio works. Or we could go with Initial Primary Color Trio or Primary Color Initial Trio, since the trope mentions that more characters with other colors can be added later, but those three will always be introduced first.

I'm going to go sandbox a even higher level description for Color-Coded for Your Convenience.

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like all that needs to be done is chop that last paragraph. Easy enough.

edited 5th Jan '12 8:43:00 AM by ccoa

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#12: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:46:23 AM

[up][up]First of all, that picture reminds me of the "How Star Wars would be different if it were Anime" list.

Second of all, we'd have to have a reason to split that much. If not, we could just do with a standard Super-Trope for color coded characters (which would still be a Sub-Trope to the Super-Trope about color convenience in general).

edited 5th Jan '12 8:46:33 AM by DragonQuestZ

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#13: Jan 5th 2012 at 8:49:16 AM

How about this: we split off Color-Coded Characters (or whatever we decide to name it), and keep an eye on it for possible subtropes that can come from it, just like we're doing here. There's no reason we can't take baby steps and make it easier on ourselves.

edited 5th Jan '12 8:49:59 AM by ccoa

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#14: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:13:45 AM

[up]Actually, that's kind of what I was suggestion. And as noted, we already have a couple.

But if so, should we move the current Turtles picture to that one?

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#15: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:18:32 AM

Yes, the TMNT picture should go on Color-Coded Characters. It's exactly that proposed trope, and would be actively misleading on Color-Coded for Your Convenience.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:21:04 AM

Well we should first agree to split. Then if that passes, I have a few ideas for the replacement.

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#17: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:29:21 AM

First of all, that picture reminds me of the "How Star Wars would be different if it were Anime" list
Magical Girl Star Wars I can see it now... Everyone is a girl Yoda is the Mentor Mascot, Darth Vader being the Dark Magical Girl, DBZ style fights with swords lots of Les Yay.... So many parallels to ending of Heartcatch Precure and Nanoha it's not funny.

Yeah we have a few of them made already... I wouldn't mind though laying them out here so we don't have tons of overlap.

New image picking thread? TMMT is perfect for the new one yes but to replace the other one might be an issue. (I of course like the one I just posted lol.)

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#18: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:32:44 AM

The one you posted would be terrible for the supertrope. It looks even more like a character trope than the TMNT image.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#19: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:40:26 AM

Did we ever get around to making several tropes such as Elemental Hair Colors, Personality Colors and other such tropes? I remember within the last couple months people intended to do so but it doesn't appear to have happened.

If not, I'm going to stick them on my to do list as things to take care of after Robot and Homoerotic Subtext leave ykttw.

edited 5th Jan '12 9:41:21 AM by Arha

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#20: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:44:11 AM

We made Color-Coded Armies and Color-Coded Elements, as suggested when we redefined Color-Coded for Your Convenience to the supertrope, but I think the rest fell to the wayside. I can YKTTW one or two since I don't currently have a YKTTW to babysit.

Another subtrope of Color-Coded Characters: Color-Coded Secret Identity

edited 5th Jan '12 9:44:56 AM by ccoa

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#21: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:48:01 AM

We have Elemental Eye Colors I have been meaning to YKTTW Elemental Hair Colors but been procrastinating... So go for it. here are some pics

edited 5th Jan '12 9:54:07 AM by Raso

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#22: Jan 5th 2012 at 10:57:03 AM

Okay, I YKKT Wed Elemental Hair (after consideration, hair style is almost as important as color in determining elemental affinity).

Now, back to the subject at hand. To be completely legit, I've made a crowner, but I doubt they'll be too many objections to this action.

Anyone have any name suggestions other than Color-Coded Characters while we wait on the crowner?

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Jan 5th 2012 at 9:26:11 PM

Would it be better to call Color-Coded Characters a Characters Color Motif?

That's what it is really, its the character's signature color motif. (However the TMMT might be a sub trope to that though which that the color is the only way to distinguish the characters from each other it might be best to not use that picture.)

Series get this too now that I think about it. Persona 3's motif is blue, Persona 3 Portable's girl is Pink, Persona 4's is yellow.

edited 5th Jan '12 9:37:21 PM by Raso

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#25: Jan 6th 2012 at 6:14:02 AM

So far the idea of splitting them off is 7 points in the green.

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