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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

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Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

Aug 14th 2012 at 9:23:18 AM

Wrench Wench

I'm not sure that why a female mechanic is a trope but the examples should at least state what type of mechanic these characters are.

edited 14th Aug '12 9:23:31 AM by captainpat

Aug 26th 2012 at 9:25:30 PM

[up] That shouldn't have any zero context examples considering it requires a character to be an Ojou and specific placement of the ringlets.

Anyway, White-Haired Pretty Girl is done. I elaborated on the ones I could and moved the rest to the discussion page. It's also on my watchlist.

edited 26th Aug '12 9:25:56 PM by captainpat

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Aug 26th 2012 at 9:34:46 PM

Film.Prince Of Persia The Sands Of Time has a whole bunch.

Roverandom is also suffering from a lot of this.

The Caribou Kitchen is almost entirely Zero Context.

edited 30th Aug '12 9:31:26 PM by ArcadesSabboth

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Sep 2nd 2012 at 11:06:48 AM

Alright, Ojou Ringlets is done. I'm gonna keep a watch on the page as most of the zero context examples were also shoehorned examples.

Lady of War - Unfortunately most of the work pages for the respective examples are also zero context examples so the best bet is to just move the examples to the discussion.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Sep 2nd 2012 at 2:53:36 PM

Lady of War probably needs 90% of the "examples" removed for being "female who does something related to fighting" instead of actual examples.

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Sep 7th 2012 at 10:40:04 PM

Lady of War is done...well it's better. I have to agree with Arcades Sabboth even though I moved a large portion of the examples to the discussion tab I'm still not sure about some of the remaining. I'll keep a watch on the page to make sure it doesn't get worse.

Tall, Dark and Bishoujo still has a Zero Context Example problem, the edit history doesn't give me much it's gonna get better, and I'm pretty sure most of the example for that trope are focused on the physical aspect for that trope. So I'm gonna move them to the discussion.

Sidenote: I thought tropes with Japanese names weren't supposed to have or at least discouraged non-Japanese works.

edited 8th Sep '12 8:26:16 PM by captainpat

FireWalk from Pointytown
Sep 8th 2012 at 5:32:25 PM

Bullet Hell, I've dropped a list of some I found in the discussion, but I may have missed a few.

Don't ask me, I just fix wicks.
Sep 11th 2012 at 5:22:17 PM

Tall, Dark and Bishoujo is done and a hell of a lot shorter.

Also, is Wrench Wench really just "a female mechanic"? I'm trying to figure out what context needs to be on the examples.

edited 11th Sep '12 5:37:45 PM by captainpat

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Oct 17th 2012 at 8:35:55 PM

This page The Knights Of The Silver Dragon is 100% nothing but Zero Context. No kidding.

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World's Toughest Milkman
Oct 18th 2012 at 2:36:09 PM

[up]Worse yet, checking the history, one of the tropes originally had some context, but the person adding examples removed it (possibly for consistency).

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Oct 18th 2012 at 2:37:53 PM

Ugh, we really need those natterfy-like message options to go live.

EDIT: Characters.Elemental Doom has a bunch.

edited 18th Oct '12 3:01:03 PM by ArcadesSabboth

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Oreochan from Pennsylvania
Oct 29th 2012 at 6:25:25 PM

The entirety of Vulgarity For The Masses's trope list is Zero Context Examples.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Nov 1st 2012 at 9:20:52 AM

Neighbors is mostly contextless.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Nov 8th 2012 at 3:38:21 PM

Mitos y Leyendas is mostly this.

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Nov 9th 2012 at 4:38:11 PM

Funny Robot is done but it still needs a description.

Moving on to Hot Scientist.

Man, we could really use a page of the wiki list some of these wicks.

Just wondering if a page is just a description and a list of zero context examples, which aren't really examples, isn't that technically a stub that can be cutlisted?

Edit: Hot Scientist is done.

edited 10th Nov '12 5:23:12 PM by captainpat

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nov 13th 2012 at 5:06:34 PM

Characters.AIR. Sometimes I just want to delete them all.

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Nov 14th 2012 at 6:34:16 AM

This is ridiculous. You can't just mass delete examples just because there's no words after them. You might as well just cut the entire page then.

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lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Nov 14th 2012 at 6:38:26 AM

Ummm, you are in fact wrong. Wiki policy is not to leave such examples around.

SeptimusHeap Token Good Teammate from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 14th 2012 at 6:38:58 AM

It's a general issue with Character/ pages that they get swamped in useless examples. I too are sometimes tempted to remove any zero context example.

Nov 14th 2012 at 7:39:18 AM

What do we do with cases where a character sheet consists mainly of zero context examples? For example I could remove all the zero context examples from the Gravion character sheet but at that point there may as well not be a page.

edited 14th Nov '12 7:39:49 AM by captainpat

SeptimusHeap Token Good Teammate from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 14th 2012 at 7:41:49 AM

I'd be tempted to cut it, or to empty the page to a stub.

We really need this "Zero Context Example"-fy button.

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Zzzzzzzzzz
Nov 14th 2012 at 9:01:02 AM

Captainpat: Fill them in. Explain why the character meets the criteria for the trope. Many of the ZCEs aren't, if you look at the whole trope, aren't really examples. Lots of ZCEs are cases where the character matches the physical component of the trope, but not the associated meaning or intent.

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lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Nov 14th 2012 at 9:03:22 AM

You can try searching the wicks and see if the associated trope page has any actually valid example instead of just a name.

Nov 14th 2012 at 12:27:07 PM

Zero Context Example have now plagued the Character page for Wreck It Ralph.

Whatever happened to "navigating to the page of that trope yourself so you can READ AND UNDERSTAND WHY the trope applies to the topic???" We don't always need to explain why a trope fits a topic, because every trope has its own page wikilinked back to it!! Therefore, the trope Zero Context Example is needless.

This is why I am this close to quit being a trope editor.

edited 14th Nov '12 12:27:19 PM by kyun


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