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Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

Sung-Hwan Since: Apr, 2018
#3876: Oct 4th 2022 at 12:50:38 AM

should the Psycho-Pass Sinners of the System character page be terminated until someone decides to put in the work, some day? It's just a blank page for the most part.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
PS16 PS 16 from NYC Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#3878: Oct 4th 2022 at 10:40:12 AM

I'll fix the link to Innocence Lost.

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.
PS16 PS 16 from NYC Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#3879: Oct 4th 2022 at 10:13:40 PM

This is an edit I would like to add to Dhar Mann:

  • Throughout the majority of Dhar Mann's videos, whenever there's a Villain Protagonist, either a kid or an adult, they often have one or more friends that are portrayed as morally right people and would call them out on their behavior. However, the portrayal of these so-called "friends" is contradicted by the fact that they either would use the same tactics to teach them a lesson, egg them on, be an accomplice in their schemes, or just be very unsupportive and rude. Here are a few examples:
    • Mikey's two best friends, Jay and Derek, are the biggest examples of this. Whenever Mikey is trying to cheat or find a shortcut to get what he wants, both Derek and (eventually) Jay would tell him to quit while he was ahead. While they're not wrong for doing this, their actions would eventually start to come off as less helpful and more smug and rude. In "Student Pulls Fire Alarm" they question why they are even still friends with Mikey and are cold and distant towards him when he gets caught for pulling the fire alarm. Then, in "Streamer Caught Cheating", when Mikey tells them he wants to be a gamer, Jay and Derek both just laugh at him and tell him he sucks. Lastly, in "Big Bro Has To Say YES For 48 Hours", both Jay and Derek express disbelief that Mikey can be good at school and even say they like him better this way. Overall, one can interpret Mikey's friendship with them as toxic.
    • In "Little Sister Steals From Big Sister", while it was wrong of Kenzie to steal her sister's iPhone, Kenzie's friend Nadia, did nothing to actually stop the former from doing it. Instead, she actually he helps her hide the iPhone from her sister. When Nadia has the opportunity to come clean to Kenzie's Mom and sister, she never does. Then, when the cops are called to arrest Kenzie, she does nothing to stop her supposed friend from going to jail, or even provide her with any comfort after it's revealed to be a prank by her family to teach her a lesson. Instead, she just continues with what they were talking about before the incident, completely oblivious to Kenzie's mental state.
    • In "Students COMPETE In Prank War", Benny and Matt, two of the funniest class clowns of the school, try to outdo each other in a prank war in order to impress their respective crushes(Tracy for the former and Zoe for the later). Their friends, Greg and Doug, both try to tell them to stop, but don't actually do anything about it. Then at the end, it revealed that both Greg and Doug stole Benny and Matt's crushes, knowing how their friends likes them first. This makes Doug and Greg's earlier actions come off as sneaky, with them actively trying to dissuade their friends from pursuing the girls.
    • In "Kid Cheats At School Spelling Bee", Jake asks for his friends, Leo and Hector, to help him cheat in the spelling bee so he can get the extra credit needed to graduate from elementary school. Hector agrees to help, but Leo decides not to, saying that "good friends don't support bad decisions". However, in the next scene, Leo is shown to be helping Hector and Jake cheat through the entire spelling bee, contradicting his earlier statement to not support this. Then in the end, when Jake finally gets caught, instead of coming clean and standing by his side, Leo lets Hector and Jake take the blame while smugly leaving them to play the PS 5 with the winner.
Is this edit a good example for this page?

Edited by PS16 on Oct 5th 2022 at 6:37:57 AM

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.
RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#3880: Oct 4th 2022 at 10:25:32 PM

Webcomic.Dragon Mail - don't see a reason to keep.

Characters.Object Invasion - Huh.


Webcomic.HTZ — It looks barely salvageable, but the bigger question is -

How is this page even existing? Especially when you look at the Edit History... (???)

Edited by RobertTYL on Oct 5th 2022 at 4:40:48 PM

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#3881: Oct 4th 2022 at 10:27:46 PM

[up][up] Examples Are Not Recent.

Edited by ChloeJessica on Oct 4th 2022 at 10:28:00 AM

Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#3882: Oct 5th 2022 at 8:00:08 AM

Outcast was created back in May 2021 and yet has only three tropes all of which are ZCEs.

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#3883: Oct 5th 2022 at 9:04:40 AM

[up] Since the page creator is gone now, axe away.

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
PS16 PS 16 from NYC Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#3884: Oct 5th 2022 at 9:54:39 AM

^I removed the use of the words "recent" from the edit.

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#3886: Oct 5th 2022 at 2:27:51 PM

Does the following example from Fatal Fiction look like it has enough context?:

  • Half the Woman She Used to Be: Android 18 is slashed in half after Starfire managed to redirect her projectile. It doesn't stop her due to her cyborg body.

PS16 PS 16 from NYC Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#3887: Oct 5th 2022 at 2:44:30 PM

Here's another edit I would like to add to Dhar Mann. Does this example have enough context:

  • In "Mean Girl Backstabs Her Friend", is Hazel a sweet but Innocently Insensitive girl who's genuinely friends with Laila and Michaela and didn't realize that she made the former feel left out? Or is she intentionally ignoring Laila and taking advantage of the girls and the things they're willing give her? Hazel being so quick to start hanging out with Michaela again, knowing how rich she is, and the fact that that she seemed reluctant to go to Laila's cheaper birthday party only supports the latter interpretation.

Edited by PS16 on Oct 6th 2022 at 8:40:49 AM

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
Jalpo99 Making Crossovers since The New 10's from the Deku Palace Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Making Crossovers since The New 10's
#3889: Oct 6th 2022 at 12:31:56 PM

I came upon Characters.Mr Men yesterday. And, oh boy it's bad. I counted 168 ZCEs across the entire page. Several character listings on there were nothing but ZCEs across the board. I went ahead and commented them all out. There are around 254 wicks with context on the page already, but the ZCEs take up over a quarter of the 422 indents on there. Is this still salvageable?

Life is just a dream.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#3890: Oct 6th 2022 at 12:35:20 PM

Not a major one, but Characters.Ant Man Heroes had a few ZCEs commented out when I checked it today (but not the usual ZCE note), and I've now commented out a few more as well. Note now added.

Edited by Mrph1 on Oct 6th 2022 at 8:35:38 PM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3891: Oct 6th 2022 at 9:27:38 PM

Found Author Usurpation on a wick moving spree and, um, it's bad. Just a lot of authors next to work titles.

RobertTYL Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
#3892: Oct 9th 2022 at 7:17:48 AM

Series.My Husbands Lover

Only 4 tropes on the page. At least 2 which are ZCE. And as the last on-page activity unrelated to Wick cleaning is from 2016...

Edited by RobertTYL on Oct 9th 2022 at 10:18:01 PM

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#3893: Oct 9th 2022 at 9:05:14 AM

  • Air-Vent Passageway: Subverted; Sam finds out he can't actually hide in the ship's air vents this way. Not with his suit on at least, which gets embarrassingly stuck in there.

This is one of those "lots of words, no actual context" ZCEs, right? Cause ~Lopiny just uncommented it without making any changes whatsoever.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Lopiny Since: May, 2011
#3894: Oct 9th 2022 at 9:21:56 AM

I did make changes a few weeks (months?) ago, I just forgot to uncomment it. Apologies for that one, especially if it still isn't enough.

Edited by Lopiny on Oct 9th 2022 at 1:23:22 PM

FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#3896: Oct 9th 2022 at 12:38:53 PM

[up](x3) I agree that it needs more context.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3897: Oct 9th 2022 at 2:31:14 PM

Changed to:

  • Air-Vent Passageway: Subverted; Sam gets the idea to hide in the ship's air ducts, but is unable to fit through the vent. Not with his suit on at least, which gets embarrassingly stuck in there.

techno156 from Lost in the wrong part of the internet Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
PS16 PS 16 from NYC Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
#3899: Oct 10th 2022 at 2:59:36 PM

I would like to add an edit to The Owl House - Luz Noceda. Does this example have enough context?

  • Heroic BSoD: After finding out that Philip was actually Belos and that she helped him find the Collector, leading to the destruction of the Demon Realm, Luz is filled with immense guilt and self-loathing over her mistake. She then spends the next several months blaming herself for what happened while working endlessly to build a portal to get back to the Demon Realm, to no avail. As a result, it takes a huge toll on her mental health, leaving her a former shell of her cheerful self.

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.
techno156 from Lost in the wrong part of the internet Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#3900: Oct 10th 2022 at 9:53:07 PM

[up] Is the new series out already? I thought it wasn't out until the 31st.

Although, I think that could do with some trimming. Some of those spoilers don't need to be there, you just need to summarise the result, and some of the aftermath can be gone.

Something like:

Finding out that she accidentally helped Belos in his plan to destroy the Demon Realm, Luz is is filled from immense guilt and self-loathing after being trapped in the human realm with her witch friends, with no way to get back. This takes a huge toll on her mental health, leaving her a former shell of her cheerful self

Edited by techno156 on Oct 11th 2022 at 3:57:07 AM


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