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openMoral Guardians outdated
The Moral Guardians page appears to be rather outdated. This wouldn't be that much of a problem if not for the fact that the page is locked. I'm not sure as to why its locked, although I assume because of the fact it might have been flame bait at some point.
I'll probably bring this up in the Edits Request Thread, but I want to know if there's any more examples than the ones I've listed here:
- In South Australia Family First MP Dennis Hood recently had a law passed, where all R rated films in South Australia (eg: Pulp Fiction, Apocalypse Now, etc) have to either a) be placed in the 'adult section' of all video stores (in a similar fashion to porn titles) or b) have an entirely blank cover displaying only the films name in small font and a note saying that the film may cause offense, furthermore all studios are banned from advertising any R rated films (such as the ones mentioned) on any medium.
- Stephen Conroy, the current Australian Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy (ie. head government internet guy) has made plans, approved by the Federal Government which he is a part of, to force mandatory censorship on the Internet at the ISP level for all Internet users in Australia, in which the government gets to decide what is appropriate and what isn't. Even worse, what is and isn't blocked will be kept secret (as a guide, it's very similar what China and Iran have in place). This despite the fact that every test conducted thus far has shown blanket filters to be complete pants when it comes to actually achieving anything, and almost unanimous, vitriolic opposition to the idea on all fronts. Following the 2010 Election, the filter is effectively dead in the water. The Labor Party could only remain in power by creating a coalition government with three Independent and one Greens MP. As all four of these men oppose the filter, and the Liberal/National Coalition has remained steadfast in their opposition to the filter, it's not even going to make it to the Senate. Hasn't stop Conroy talking about it every chance he can get.
According to Wikipedia, Conroy retired from the listed position in 2013, and was out of politics altogether 3 years later.
- Glee has been getting a surprising amount of flak by Moral Guardians. While the show never tried to be shy about risque content, its similarities to a popular film series aimed at children led a lot of people to initially (and some still do) believe the show was targeting children. Some of the particularly ridiculous criticisms were over risque magazine photoshoots featuring the actors who played teenage characters, even likening it to "pedophilia"... Even though the actors in question were in their mid-twenties when they did the photos! Pretty much all the criticism of the show's "inappropriate" content come from people who don't realize that the show is made for older teens and young adults.
Glee ended in 2015.
Would like to get others' thoughts on the page.
Edited by SkylaNoivernopenMisuse
Two tropers have respectively added two pairs of Season 1 examples on Oddball in the Series, and in the case of jessicadicicco610 (who added the Loud House ones), re-added after I removed them so the troper is edit-warring. Season 1 examples fall under Early-Installment Weirdness, so adding them in the Oddball page instead is misuse. I need permission to remove them again and, if possible, add a commented-out disclaimer to not add Season 1 examples in that page but instead in Early-Installment Weirdness. Thanks in advance!
openVandalism
chumchimeny added a link to, um, this to Characters.Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure DIO. So their first edit is adding an irrelevant link to an irrelevant page, which is not a good look.
Edited by ZuxtronopenUnjustified edit and edit war on Transgender Fetishization
On Transgender Fetishization, Tropers.Wowowow removed an example for Kaine from Nier for the reason: "Kaine isn’t transgender. She was born as a woman with both male and female genitals."
This is despite (1) the entry itself acknowledges that she's intersex, and (2) the trope description is very clear that "For this trope, 'Transgender' is being used as a catch-all for many different forms of gender-nonconformity, such as Crossdresser, Ambiguous Gender, Ambiguous Gender Identity, Sex Shifter or others."
When I added the example back citing that the description states this, they then removed the example again with no edit reason.
Edited by NubianSatyressopenWho's James Marco?
There's a new entry under TroubledProduction.Live Action TV for the 83rd Oscars. Page history here. One question: Who's James Marco who the entry repeatedly references? Did they mean James Franco who's listed in the link?
Also, they didn't put the [[/folder]] tag at the end of the folder.
Edited by BKelly95openDid I do something wrong aside from bad grammar?
I am a bit paranoid about being reported for a minor thing such as bad grammar because I didn't check it before I send it. Not surprising, Michael did report me for bad grammar. I did admit I should have go to the get help with English forum in the first place but I sometimes didn't either because people might take a while to responds or I thought my examples are good enough. So I want you guys to check my edit history if I did something wrong aside from bad grammar because I believe you guys can help me improve myself. I really don't want to be suspended for my mistakes from the past and I'm sorry for what I did. Thank you.
Edited by BubblepigopenPedantic troper
mlsmithca seems to use unnecessarily snarky edit reasons on a regular basis, often over minor grammar issues and instances of Word Cruft, no matter how smallnote I'm talking about putting "X does Y" instead of "X. It does Y" because it counts as Word Cruft to them, and replacing "utilize" with "use" because "utilize" is four letters too long. Besides that, there's the following:
- [1]: Putting a "No. Just… No" Reaction to a word being too potholed, instead of saying something like "Removing chained pothole".
- Directly talking to other tropers in the edit reasons (which, as mentioned here, is not allowed).
- Here they put a rather snarky comment towards someone who (most likely) accidentally put two extra brackets.
- [2]: The last sentence of their edit reason is plain unnecessary.
- Here they removed the last three words from "X is fantastic to listen to" with the reason being "You're hardly going to do something other than listen to a piece of music".
- And finally, here they flat out told a troper who used first person writing "This wiki is not about you", when a more polite thing to do would be to put "Removing first person writing", or something similar.
These are just a few examples, most of them from the last few weeks alone.
Edited by Shadow8411openSpoilers for unreleased Amphibia episode Western Animation
The season finale of Amphibia which was supposed to air yesterday, got leaked on iTunes today. The creator of the show has made it clear that he doesn’t want people to watch the episode until it airs properly. Despite this, people are posting spoilers from the leaks for the episode on the subpages. Because of this, I’m calling for a revert and a temporary lock, probably until the episode airs properly.
openNo Title
Silicon Prophet added a lot of completely spoilered-out tropes to The Gaiad with a comment saying that they're unreleased, as well as another comment saying that they're invoking Word of God on the tropes. The link to the work doesn't work so I'm not sure how to check if any of them are actually found in the work.
openHelp proofreading
Could somebody help me proofread this work page here? Servant Shenanigans
It's still a work in progress, and I'm working on it entirely on my own. While I did go through it a few times, I'm not 100% sure I managed to catch all errors - whether it's in grammar, spelling, keeping spoilers consistent or using the tropes correctly.
Could someone please take a second look at this? Thank you.
Edited by LermisopenGeneral standards for a Work's Main Page to help with the Dr. Crafty pages. Web Original
Apologies for the lengthy question:
I've been wondering how examples should be covered on a work's main page. I've seen it mentioned in passing, like in the edit notes for Disenchantment, that the main pages are meant to discuss the work in a broader sense. The more specific examples cherry-picked from specific episodes are relegated to the recap or character pages when appropriate.
I haven't paid much attention to how main pages are formatted since, but now that I've dedicated my time here to improving the Dr. Crafty pages, I could use some guidance. That show's main page has a lot of specific examples — some extremely so. I've also started working on a recap page for the show. So, rather than merely copying over those ultra-specific examples, should I restructure the main page to discuss the show and its spin offs in general terms?
Edited by NotsofriendlyopenProblematic troper
VOLman123 has numerous problems with their edits. In general, their edits are lacking in proper grammar, spelling, formatting, and context. For other specific problems:
- Adding exaggerated Audience Reactions to YMMV pages (seen here and here).
- Creating subpages for Thumb Wrestling Federation that leave a lot to be desired:
- Memes subpage
- Funny subpage
- Quotes subpage (this one is notable for the use of emojis on the page).
- Recap subpage (now cut)
openEdit histories of old tropers
Whatever happened to the edit histories of tropers before 2012, especially with the ones like Seth?
openTroper uncensoring the n-word
Potentially contentious discussion ahead.
Glim is going through every page that mentions the phrase "the n-word" and replacing it with the actual uncensored word. I understand there may be a concern about people (at least those not super familiar with English) not knowing what "the n-word" means, but it still feels...suspect, especially since this doesn't seem to have been properly discussed and these are the only kinds of edits they've done in the past few weeks.
Edited by mightymewtronopenHenry Stickmin YMMV page on Seasonal Rot Videogame
So the YMMV page of Henry Stickmin has Seasonal Rot in it for “Fleeing the Complex”. The main problem that I have with the entry is its wrong use of a trope (it would be much more appropriate to use Sequelitis for it) and I haven’t heard of anyone else noting the issues listed on the page. Does that make it good for deletion or should some steps be taken before that to see if that should happen or not?
openred link trope
I was going through Main.Costume Tropes and found Fashionista Villain. Clicking the link says the page was cut, but there is still Laconic.Fashionista Villain. Cut?
open Un-Deleted folder which is NRLEP
~Septimus Heap restored the "Politicians" folder of Contractual Purity in a system restoration.
The politicians folder is NRLEP.
Permission to re-delete the politicians folder?
openIs there a way to search the forums for titles only?
Because it's just turning up every mention of whatever I search, which makes it nearly useless most of the time.
My issue comes in 2 categories:
1). Is there a World Building Tropes index? And if there isn’t, why isn’t there?
It seems like there are a lot of tropes that fit under the “Worldbuilding” category (Fantasy World Map, Single-Biome Planet, Fantastic Sapient Species Tropes, Fictional Country, to name a few). So an index would seem to make sense. But I search “world building index” and “world building tropes”, and searched, but I haven’t been able to find one anywhere.
I can see an argument for not having one though, as one can argue that Worldbuilding is simply what happens when you have enough Speculative Fiction Tropes. But if that’s the case, then that leads into my second concern…
2). Is Worldbuilding in the Speculative Fiction Tropes index? And if it isn’t, why isn’t it in there?
I’ve looked under the index section, i’ve looked under W, and I’ve even looked under B, but I haven’t been able to find it anywhere in that index, despite the fact that it seems like it would fit under there.
It’s possible that it’s not in there because not all cases of Worldbuilding are found in speculative fiction, and so Worldbuilding fits under that index as much as any given character, object, etc. trope would. But if that’s the case, then that brings me back to my first concern, since if that were the case, then there should be enough non Speculative Fiction Worldbuilding tropes to justify a separate index, would there not?
So am I missing something here? Is this just an oversight? Is there a good reason for any absences?
Edited by Zero-Up