Ambiguous Name: Double Date get usage counts
Deadlock Clock: 22nd Nov 2013 11:59:00 PM

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1 Larkmarn14th Aug 2013 08:33:30 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
The name just sounds like it's, well, a Double Date between two couples. However, it's actually specifically about a double date where there's UST between a member of couple A, and a member of couple B (the example as thesis might not be helping this). As such, it gets potholed a LOT as just a plain double date.

I vote we turn the page into just a normal double date and make a new page with the old definition. UST Double Date or something.

So of 22 non-administrative wicks: 7 definitely wrong. 4 that I believe are wrong 4 that I have no idea 5 definite correct 2 probably correct.

Not good numbers.
2 Spark914th Aug 2013 08:54:35 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
I forget who said this just last week, but trope makers should never use a predefined term (like Double Date) as the trope name for something else than its preexisting definition (like Double-Date-but-only-if-...) That's just asking for trouble.

I concur with the OP; transplant or YKTTW the current meaning of the trope, and redefine this page to what its name means.
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3 SeptimusHeap14th Aug 2013 08:59:28 AM from Valle di Muggio, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole
I forget who said this just last week, but trope makers should never use a predefined term...

You mean Madrugada, I suspect.
4 Larkmarn14th Aug 2013 10:02:10 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Pretty sure that came from discussion about Impersonating an Officer... I'm inclined to agree, of course.
5 Madrugada14th Aug 2013 10:46:27 AM , Relationship Status: In season
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It may not be me saying that Spark is remembering, but that's certainly my stance on the issue, and has been for a long time. I fully concur with making "Double Date" cover exactly what it is used to mean in Real Life (two couples go on a date together) and transplanting the subtrope (two couples go on a date together and one from one couple has UST with one from the other couple) to a more accurately name.

edited 14th Aug '13 10:47:05 AM by Madrugada

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6 Rethkir14th Aug 2013 10:58:27 AM from the gap between dimensions
Was this recently launched? It looks like it doesn't have enough examples for folders. And the description is very short for something so specific. Considering how few examples there are, I'd say just make it whenever two couples are on a date.
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7 SeptimusHeap14th Aug 2013 11:03:11 AM from Valle di Muggio, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole
It has an (empty) archived discussion, so it's certainly not recent.
8 Larkmarn14th Aug 2013 11:29:42 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
This was in the related links... take from that what you will.
9 Rethkir14th Aug 2013 11:47:38 AM from the gap between dimensions
What a sad, sad page. So, let's broaden the definition and add some examples. In the meantime, I'm removing the folders.
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10 AnotherDuck14th Aug 2013 12:15:40 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
Our page for Double Date should be for what the term is used for outside TV Tropes. This is one case where I wouldn't even bother with checking misuse.

I also seem to rememeber an image of a Double Date where all four people were thinking of the person they weren't dating. Did we have a page with such an image?
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11 Larkmarn14th Aug 2013 12:53:15 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Seems like there's going to be very little opposition to redefining Double Date to mean, well, a double date.

Any ideas for names for the trope that's currently there?
12 Rethkir14th Aug 2013 01:42:56 PM from the gap between dimensions
Double Date Love Quadrangle, but that should go through YKTTW.
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[up][up]Some people might think it's PSOC.

Is either trope prominent enough in the examples not to need YKTTW?
If it needs a new name, what with the reference to "star-crosses lovers," why not "Star-Crossed Double Date"?
15 AnotherDuck6th Sep 2013 10:18:54 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I don't think that reference is appropriate. There's nothing about them being fated to not end up together.
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16 nrjxll8th Sep 2013 09:13:28 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
I sort of agree with Morgan Wick: a simple double date without any other narrative significance is questionably tropable. It certainly would attract ZCEs.
18 Willbyr10th Oct 2013 06:56:44 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Clock is set.
19 Larkmarn10th Oct 2013 07:52:59 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
The minimum we need for examples is who is dating whom, and where they go.

Usually a Double Date (or Triple Date, or Quadruple Date) happens when everyone in a couple shares an interest. The more general the setting, the less the people have in common. A Double Date trip to a 1940s baseball museum gives the group a chance to bond over their common interest and enjoy themselves. Whereas a Double Date trip to an Italian restaurant is slightly less likely to go well, and a Double Date to a coffee shop is likely to end in disaster for one or more couples.
22 ThnikkamanLostHerCookies17th Oct 2013 01:11:05 PM from Ohio , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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Did we even actually decide whether this should be renamed?
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
We need a crowner for the following options:

Any of the three would solve the problem.
25 theAdeptrogue18th Oct 2013 04:42:54 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up][up] Well, a lot of people have agreed that the name is bad for the current definition, so yeah...

Alternative Titles: Double Date
9th Jan '14 8:18:31 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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