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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

PistolsAtDawn Villain Protagonist Since: Oct, 2013
Villain Protagonist
#2326: Sep 21st 2014 at 10:52:19 AM

Oh my gosh I am so sorry! I feel really stupid now u_u I meant to redirect it to A Dog Ate My Homework but I just realized that I copied the text from Text-Formatting Rules and forgot to actually change the bit that says Buffy The Vampire Slayer into A Dog Ate My Homework

Edit: fixed

edited 21st Sep '14 10:54:10 AM by PistolsAtDawn

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2327: Sep 21st 2014 at 2:50:28 PM

Two more items, so tht I don't have to tackle too much tomorrow:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2328: Sep 22nd 2014 at 4:24:05 AM

Today's worklist:

  • The Academy Of Almost Gods: Stub work page; creator messaged.
  • Bloody Roar: Work page with no indexing and crosswicking; I've messaged them, but I'll note this here since they got suspended over problematic page creations already.

Also, ~Patachou, can you please crosswick the pages you create? Most of these pages only get a few, if any, examples crosswicked.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
doubleyouteeeff Political ends as sad remains will die from (Hudson) River running right on over my head Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Political ends as sad remains will die
#2329: Sep 22nd 2014 at 7:22:13 AM

Found Webcomic.Promises Promises, which apparently was created in 2012. Has no tropes on its page and is only linked from Slice-of-Life Webcomics.

Not right away, not right away
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2330: Sep 22nd 2014 at 2:59:15 PM

Today's evening worklist, aside from ^:

  • Juice: Stub work page that also lacks indexing, crosswickind and a description; by ~JC 96.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2331: Sep 23rd 2014 at 12:18:19 AM

Early morning worklist:

Regarding The Emerald Forest, Fire in the Sky, My Life as a Dog and The War, ~bejjinks, please don't create unindexed work pages with no trope list. We have no use for these.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
bejjinks bejjinks from Idaho Since: Jul, 2014
bejjinks
#2332: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:14:53 AM

Sorry, I just started creating those pages and I'm new at this. I plan on completing those pages with tropes appropriately.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2333: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:51:15 AM

As for sandboxing an already launched page, just copy the source text of the already-launched page into Sandbox.Title Of The Page and work on it there. One can leave the main article alone until the sandbox is ready for launching.

Otherwise, Recap.Arrested Development S 4 E 2 Borderline Personalities is an empty page by ~Bibs Dibs.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BibsDibs Since: Mar, 2013
#2334: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:56:04 AM

@Septimus Heap I was hoping someone would add more stuff to the page. But if you want sandbox it or whatever, it's fine by me.

edited 23rd Sep '14 8:58:00 AM by BibsDibs

bitemytail from Arizona Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2335: Sep 23rd 2014 at 12:32:10 PM

Bit of old news, but Tabletop Game Tropes was launched with only 2 hats and could probably be merged with Game Tropes or Tabletop Games.

Thoughts? If nothing else, it could use some Wiki Magic.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
bejjinks bejjinks from Idaho Since: Jul, 2014
bejjinks
#2336: Sep 23rd 2014 at 2:14:45 PM

Actually, I already added at least three tropes to each page and filled out the descriptions. Thank you though as I now have a better idea of how to do this in the future. I do still need indexes though.

edited 23rd Sep '14 2:16:08 PM by bejjinks

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2337: Sep 24th 2014 at 1:11:03 AM

Today no stub work pages, but ~Arawn999 moved the content from Characters.Carnage to ComicBook.Carnage even though it still looks like a character page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#2338: Sep 24th 2014 at 1:20:47 AM

[up] If you like I could move it back.

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#2339: Sep 24th 2014 at 8:05:48 AM

Did Tintin Shout Out clear YKTTW? I can't find any record of it. It's not short on examples, but it does read a bit like a The Same But More Specific version of Shout-Out (without reaching the ubiquitous levels of Shout Outs to things like the Bible or the works of William Shakespeare).

rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#2340: Sep 24th 2014 at 2:18:58 PM

Well it has more examples than To HP Lovecraft, but it looks like the president is to make subpages of Shout-Out rather than new trope pages.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#2341: Sep 24th 2014 at 4:17:03 PM

[up]precedent. Not president. I wondered "which one?" for a second, or whether Barack Obama had joined the wiki.

edited 24th Sep '14 4:17:45 PM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#2342: Sep 24th 2014 at 7:14:32 PM

[up] I was wondering the same thing...

"Joking" aside, it still seems as though the examples on Tintin Shout Out should go on something like ShoutOut/Tintin rather than having their own trope. I mean, I like Tintin as much as the next person (well except for the first two books and Flight 714 (aliens in the Tintinverse? Really!?)), but a Shout-Out to Belgium's second-greatest gift to the world (after their chocolates) is still a Shout-Out, not a trope of its own.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2343: Sep 25th 2014 at 1:34:07 AM

Today's worklist:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#2344: Sep 25th 2014 at 2:36:48 AM

Septimus, it doesn't seem like everyone knows the rules concerning the franchise namespace, even people you would expect to. I didn't until you told me in this thread.

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#2345: Sep 25th 2014 at 8:10:00 AM

A couple reasons, one being that it is a franchise per our rules with three different media included and the other being that there was not enough information on any one version to make stand alone pages. Typically when there are not a huge number of tropes a videogame series or book series etc will be grouped into one page until/unless they get big enough to split, I did not expect a multi-media franchise would need to be treated differently.

TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#2346: Sep 25th 2014 at 8:48:02 AM

[up][up] (see Administrivia.Namespace) "Represented by at least three namespaces" means different things to different people, and it doesn't say "having articles in at least three namespaces" which it should do if your interpretation is correct.

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2347: Sep 25th 2014 at 8:59:50 AM

<Sigh> So, how plausible is a sea depth (after stripping out sediment layers) of 7km outside of subduction trenches?

Sorry, just distracted by a worldbuilding problem that I've been working on for a few months. To address the issues of the thread...

"Represented by at least three namespaces" means that the franchise in question needs to have pages in 3 different namespaces (or mediums). It was after all created to hold the "Hub" articles that several franchises have. If you have a page that covers several mediums, the namespace used is the one for the original medium.

Also, in other namespace related questions, Eleanor Of Aquitaine was launched into the wrong namespace and needs indexing besides; by ~Penny Dreadful. Also, apparently a different text from the one in the still unlaunched YKTTW was used - I would recommend to cut the current page altogether and to launch the YKTTW one into the Useful Notes namespace.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
doubleyouteeeff Political ends as sad remains will die from (Hudson) River running right on over my head Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Political ends as sad remains will die
#2348: Sep 25th 2014 at 9:49:58 AM

Re: Tintin Shout Out: I'd think that, instead of a Shout-Out subpage, it should be a Referenced by... subpage.

There also appears to be some overlap between ShoutOut.To Shakespeare and some pages linked on ReferencedBy.Theatre.

edited 25th Sep '14 9:50:45 AM by doubleyouteeeff

Not right away, not right away
rexpensive Since: Feb, 2014
#2349: Sep 25th 2014 at 10:43:07 AM

'Aight, I will move it to the videogame namespace then if that is the policy.

ETA: Done and done.

edited 25th Sep '14 10:49:50 AM by rexpensive

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#2350: Sep 25th 2014 at 10:50:02 AM

[up][up] Good point; it catalogues references TO the Tintin adventures, not references BY them. Still doesn't seem like a trope of its own either way.


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