Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the mods to add the trope via this thread
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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.
Common problems include:
- Conversation on the Main Page
- Flame Bait
- Squicky content
- Impossible in Real Life
Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. Please note that the purpose of this thread is to clean up and maintain real life sections, not raze them. Cutting should be treated as a last resort, so please only suggest cutting RL sections or a subset thereof you think the examples in question are completely unsalvageable.
If historical RL examples are not causing any problems, consider whether it would be better to propose a No Recent Examples, Please! (via this forum thread) for RL instead of NRLEP. If RL examples are causing problems only for certain subjects, consider whether a Limited Real Life Examples Only restriction would be preferable to NRLEP.
If you think a trope should be No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only, then this thread is the place to discuss it. However, please check Keep Real Life Examples first to see if it has already been brought up in the past. If not, state the reasons and add it to the crowner.
Before adding to the crowner:
- The trope should be proposed in the thread, along with reasons for why a crowner is necessary instead of a cleanup.
- There must be support from others in thread.
- Any objections should be addressed.
- Allow a minimum of 24 hours for discussion.
When adding to the crowner:
- Be sure to add the trope name, a link to where the discussion started, the reasons for crownering, whether the restriction being proposed is NRLEP or LRLEO (and in the latter case, which subject(s) the restriction would be for), and the date added.
- Announce in thread that you are adding the item.
- An ATT advert should be made as well (batch items together if more than one trope goes up in a day).
In order for a crowner to pass:
- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- There must be a 2:1 ratio
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple extra days to see if any more votes come in
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- Should the vote fail, the trope should be indexed on KRLE page
Sex Tropes, Rape and Sexual Harassment Tropes, and Morality Tropes are banned from having RL sections so tropes under those indexes don't need crowner vote.
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Notes:
- This thread is not for general discussion regarding policies for Real Life sections or crowners. Please take those conversations to this Wiki Talk thread.
- Do not try to overturn previous No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only decisions without a convincing argument.
- As mentioned here, the consensus is that NRLEP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
- The [[noreallife]] tag doesn't currently work. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. However, there's been some staff conversation (Feb 2024) about what a new technical solution might look like, so we'd advise against deleting these from pages, at least until we have a decision as to whether it'll be fixed or replaced.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 8th 2024 at 10:49:13 AM
"In distress", my ass.
On further look at Sacred Hospitality, its length and bad formatting (more the latter than the former) are the only real issues, and that's not the focus of this thread, so I'll withdraw the question.
Anyway, calling:
- The Caligula: Added 30th Jul '14 at 08:39:21 PM, 10:1 (11)
- Kaleidoscope Eyes: Added 23rd Jul '14 12:35:00 PM, 2.4:1 (17)
Needs more votes, otherwise would qualify for NRLEP:
- Academic Alpha Bitch: Added 31st Jul '14 at 08:18:30 PM, 8:0 (8)
(The other two Alpha Bitch entries aren't yet there for the 48 hour minimum, and 6 votes is still a good bit short of 10 even if they're all voting to list as NRLEP.)
[edit] BTW, do NRLEPed tropes get removed from RL pages (both people and places)? The Caligula is listed on more than a few of the Useful Notes pages, from a glance at TC's "Related to..." page.
edited 6th Aug '14 9:23:35 AM by Nohbody
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No, the other one.
I don't think NRLEP tropes should be listed on any real person anywhere on the site, unless it's explicitly about how they're portrayed in fiction.
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Good gravy, no kidding about having too many example for The Caligula.
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"In distress", my ass.
Calling all of the Alpha Bitch related crowner entries. (I'm being lazy, and none of them are even close to being "borderline" in regards to their y/n ratios. 
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Also, I'll take a swing through those Caligula wicks after I pop the AB stuff.
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I don't think Flash Step is possible IRL — there's no teleportation/Super-Speed in real life.
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iRidescence
Since Mooks have been voted as NRLEP, should Million Mook March be added for being an extension of a villain trope?
"In distress", my ass.
^ I think so. I'll add it in a minute.
^^ Just FYI, when putting a time stamp on a crowner entry, you should use the time you get when looking at the entry history (click the book-looking icon), as that uses server time. That way, there's no fiddling around with time conversions.
(Granted, determining when an entry hits the 48hr mark still needs the conversion, but it's not like we have to call things the split second it gets to 48:00:01, so a little imprecision is acceptable.)
edited 7th Aug '14 8:36:24 PM by Nohbody
All your safe space are belong to Trump
No, the other one.
I don't think Flash Step absolutely necessitates movement impossible in real life. There was a thread a while ago about it, and it's basically about giving the impression of a teleport move. That is possible in real life.
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Million Mook March is about showing off the size of your army, not about being evil. Yes, it's usually the bad guys doing it, but not always.
"In distress", my ass.
Hmm. Now that ![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
mentions it, it seems a good thing that I forgot to make the entry, because after reading the description closely (which I should have done to start with, mea culpa) I don't think it's really NRLEP fodder.
(Needs a 50 pound sledgehammer taken to the Example Indentation issues, but that's not this thread. :P )
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Yes.
I think Redemption Equals Death should be NRLEP because a) it's a villain trope and b) death is inevitable for real people regardless of redemption.
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Yes.
The currently existing Flash Step examples seem to be actual real examples. At the very least it's possible for small animals, and I've heard the part about Bruce Lee elsewhere.
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"In distress", my ass.
^^ That, and there's no plotting for RL. Added to the crowner.
Anyway, calling Too Spicy for Yog-Sothoth: Added 5th Aug '14 at 11:44:23 AM, 3.33:1 (13)
edited 8th Aug '14 3:18:42 PM by Nohbody
All your safe space are belong to Trump
No, the other one.
You can't really talk about redemption without having something to redeem yourself from, which is a moral judgement we shouldn't make on real people.
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Sorcerer in training
On Flash Step, I remember reading a few years ago about a martial arts master who could move so darn fast, watchers couldn't visually process his movements. So it's possible for experienced but normal humans to move fast enough that other humans can't process those movements. (And gives Batman an interesting perspective. )
![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
for Redemption Equals Death since it is morality-dependent.
![[tdown]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_down_emoticon_3571.png "[thumb down]"){kind=small}
for Flash Step, since many of the Real Life examples on the page are flash-like movements that pretty much behave like the more fantastic versions of the trope.
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3039: Where would those examples go? The standards ones are already NRLEP.
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Officially intimidated
I disagree with Flash Step as well.
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"In distress", my ass.
Calling Redemption Equals Death: Added 8th Aug '14 at 03:17:27 PM, 4.5:1 (11).
All your safe space are belong to Trump
Mentioning Depraved Kids' Show Host here, since it lists Jimmy Savile and other convicted sexual abusers. I am somewhat concerned, not only because that is a controversial subject, but also because they are never portrayed as "depraved" inside the confines of a work.
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Shall we mention Disney Death? Because bring back from the dead is impossible in RL.
No, the other one.
I'd file that under gossip about real people or something. It's not relevant to the site, and it's tacky.
While I suspect examples for that might be a bit fishy, it doesn't require people to literally rise from the dead. Characters being mistaken for dead is the most common form, and that's perfectly possible in real life.
edited 12th Aug '14 3:41:42 AM by nrjxll
Lost in Space
I nominate A.I. Is a Crapshoot, for three reasons. First, we have yet to develop self-aware AI in any form that would be recognizable under that trope. Second, said AI has not turned spontaneously evil nor turned against its masters. Third, there's an element of good/evil morality to the trope that cannot apply in RL.
edited 12th Aug '14 5:32:57 AM by Fighteer
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Crown Description:
Vote up to either forbid all real life examples (No Real Life Examples Please) or forbid real life examples for specific subjects (Limited Real Life Examples Only); vote down to Keep Real Life Examples. To add a trope to a No Real Life Examples Please index or the Limited Real Life Examples Only index, its crowner option must meet the following criteria:- Stable 2:1 ratio needed for NRLEP or LRLEO
- Must have been up for a minimum of a week
- If the vote is exactly 2:1 or +/- 1 vote from that, give it a couple of extra days to see if more votes come in.
Seems closer to something like Always a Bigger Fish in a metaphorical sense. And I'm not sure it's something that improves the site by its inclusion at the very best, so I'm down for removing it.
edited 5th Aug '14 12:41:08 PM by AnotherDuck
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