FWIW my Guess That Trope would have been something about hair coloring, like "bottle blonde".
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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possibly a lack of context or generalization. I see that a lot. Not all tropes have a checklist that proves its correct to the letter. If the trope didn't have so much use I'd be ambivalent to the rename but over 700 wicks and over 700 inbounds is nothing to sneeze at. That being said, I do like Liquor Lass as a name.
That is an equally vague name. Drunk Party Girl is the trope here. Admittedly, not the best name, but the vague idea that we should be looking for in a name.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI checked the thread and I'm not seeing a wick check here with misuse. Is it linked to somewhere, I'm failing at finding it.
Yeah, I have most of one done on my home PC but I wound up in Nashville without warning. The results are bad, but I don't have them here to give you or I'd post it in. I get home on Sunday. I'll try to post it then if I'm not too dead or work on recreating it.
edited 30th Mar '12 6:04:50 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
OT, but this amuses me more than I can explain. "Whoops, I'm in Nashville! My stars!"
Think of the mooks!
For some reason, I'm imaginging this to be somewhat like the time I went to Chicago, but my luggage wound up in Little Rock, AR. Poor Shima, stuck on the luggage rack, forever waiting to get picked up.
That One Troper
Think of the mooks!
Eh, I'd avoid trying to shove alliteration in there, particularly as the "party girl" portion kind of prevents true alliteration anyhow.
Also, to be honest, I don't know just how widespread any given slang term for "drunk" is, let alone to what degree any of them apply (I would take "plastered" to indicate someone one drink shy of passing out). Keeping it more generalized works for me.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
My understanding is that the character is not merely drunk, but bacchanalian, friendly, and down-to-earth.
even when she's sober, she's still that personality, too.
That One Troper
Anyway, I started a crowner and hollered to the mods, but they haven't attached it to this thread yet. What am I doing wrong?
Evil is my favorite color.
A holler isn't an instant response. Also, no wick check visible here and did you link the crowner in the holler?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
You have to link the crowner so they can find it. Also, maybe they are too busy to respond right away. And, given the previous thread on the matter, I really don't think I can vote unless I see a wick check, which Shima has stated she has done, but can't post right now. So, I'd rather wait.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
I Thought It Meant saving life-restoring fairies in a bottle like you do in most Zelda games...
I'm torn as to what we should do for the trope, arguments for renaming it and the one against it are both good. But regardless of what we do, we absolutely need a "fairy in a bottle" trope. I made a YKTTW for it now too. Here
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I created Can Of Sprite as a redirect for Fairy Companion; if literal fairies in bottles get launched, it should inherit that redirect.
Are we gonna let this thread go stale and die? A few people said they were doing wick checks but they didn't really show any results. I will do wick check of 150 soon and will post my results.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
I'm sorry. The current crisis is eating my time.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Understandable. I'm also drained like a prune by this crisis. Results will be posted as I go whenever I have the time.
edited 8th Apr '12 12:14:28 AM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Already for today's wick check: Posting as I go along.
Reduced to 50 wicks a more workable amount. BF has 744 wicks.
Correct use (Judging from description) 9 wicks
Giddy, exuberant and often immature female alcoholic, who is sometimes a Cool Big Sis, Adult Child or The Tease to the younger cast.
- Alcoholic Parent
- Blue Exorcist
- Chaste Hero
- Aborted Declaration of Love
- Not a Morning Person: Is describing Misato Katsuragi from Neon Genesis Evangelion, who is an example of the trope.
- Children Raise You
- Friendly Sniper
- Stepford Smiler
Misused for male
Misused for The Lad-ette 2 wicks
- Gingers Bread
- Drink Order: Potholed to Revy from Black Lagoon,who looking at character sheet definitely does not fit Bottle Fairy, she is a The Lad-ette.
Misused for anyone that likes to drink a lot, has been drunk once and does not have any traits associated with Bottle Fairy. 18 wicks
- A-CupAngst
- Alcohol Is Poison
- Blush Sticker
- Drunken Boxing
- Dumb Muscle
- Katanagatari
- Kimi Wa Petto
- Gender Flip Versions
- Realistic Diction Is Unrealistic
- Secret Files
- State Tan Project
- Spoiler Warning
- Faux Action Girl
- Sengoku Youko
- Wish
- Kemonozume
- Anime/Mnemosyne
- Quick Nip
- Nectar Of The Gods
Zero Context Examples and unclear 21 wicks
- Akai Ito: Zero Context
- Another:Zero Context
- Aoi House: Zero Context
- Manga/Bartender: Zero Context
- Cheerful Child : Zero Context
- Cynical Orange: Zero Context
- Date Peepers: Zero Context Pothole
- Boisterous Bruiser: Doesn't explain itself
- Lord Peter Wimsey: Zero Context
- Dragon Crisis: Zero Context
- Ephemeral Fantasia: Zero Context
- Sisters... No Way!: Zero Context
- Battle Spirits Shonen Gekiha Dan
- Chibi Miku-san
- Aquarium Drinking
- Out At Home
- Manga/Sekirei
- Seinfeld
- Mirage Of Blaze
- Mamotte Shugogetten
- Mistwood: Unclear
- My So Called Life
Conclusion:
shima is right, people are not really misusing this trope for the anime or bottled fairies but for The Alcoholic, The Lad-ette,anybody who happens to drink alcohol, and people who party a lot but are not mentioned in the example to drink a lot or even drink at all. Unless we want the trope to decay further into "anybody who drinks ever" I think a rename is in order. I also find it odd that we do not have a Party Animal trope. We really need that trope.
edited 9th Apr '12 10:35:19 AM by Oreochan
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
That One Troper
Well then YttKW it, why don't we?
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
I'm not arguing against a rename, per se, but is this really a name problem? It seems to me Bottle Fairy means nothing other than the trope; I don't think it's a problem of people ignoring the description and guessing based on the name so much as skimming the description and correctly using what they (erroneously) remember it as being.
The child is father to the man —Oedipus
Yeah, this doesn't look like a name problem here.
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Vote up for yes, down for no.
The problem is that the trope is heavily misused. A large chuck of the wicks are neither a) female, nor b) party girls. A large chunk of the female examples seem to just be "woman who is drunk a lot" no matter if she fits the rest of the trope or not.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick