General Page Quote Discussion:

That quote has nothing to do with Apocalypse Wow. Any of the suggestions on the quotes page would be superior.

The quotes on the quote page are mostly too lengthy; the only one that isn't has a spoiler. Nevertheless, as they actually have something to do with the trope, I recommend replacing the current Apocalypse Wow quote with one.

Would a shorter section of one of the lengthy quotes work?

This is somewhat tangential to the purpose of this thread, but in regards to no potholes in quotes is there a page with this policy written down, or is it just in statements from staffers in forums or Ask The Tropers?

I ask because I'd like something to point to should I ever get up enough ambition to go hunting quote potholes.

Fast Eddie made a statement some pages back.

Found Nocturna mentioning it.

Edit: Ask the Tropers discussion mentioned here.

edited 25th Oct '13 5:36:15 AM by Candi

A second quote was added to Primal Scene yesterday. I think it's better, but the first quote is the former Trope Namer.

Primal Scene: I like the second more, as the first seems fairly impertinent.

Primal Scene: The second quote is more obviously applicable, although it's a bit on the long side.

Definitely the second on Primal Scene. It's a bit on the long side but not too much so.

Re: Primal Scene. Second quote is better. It's longer, but not too long. Does need the potholes removed.

A handful of tropes that have two page quotes. With my comments:

• Big, Stupid Doodoo-Head: The first line of the first quote is the best. The reply is not the trope.
• Desk Jockey: The first one is better because it needs no explanation.
• Epigraph: I fail to see the relevance of the first. The second is a quote about a quote about the trope. The actual quote that is referred to would be much preferable. Apparently it is from this book, but there's no way to check the actual words without the book.
• Mother Russia Makes You Strong: I feel the second one is better. Only it is attributed to a work that quotes from "a contemporary source", instead of the "contemporary source" itself, which would probably be preferable.
• Sword and Gun: No preference. Neither strikes me as particularly good.

Also, the quote on Wizarding School is much too long, and yet fails to mention that Hogwarts is a wizarding school, as opposed to a plain old school. The quote tab offers no alternative, as the quotes there are even longer.

edited 26th Oct '13 1:28:11 PM by LordGro

Big, Stupid Doodoo-Head: Agree on the first quote, with or without the second line.

Desk Jockey: First is clearer.

Epigraph: Go with the second in lieu of a better option, though I would agree that if anyone can get the referenced quote, that would probably be better.

Mother Russia Makes You Strong: Either one seems fine to me, and whichever isn't used should go to the quotes page. Though I think I'm slightly partial to the second.

Sword and Gun: While I agree that neither are great, I think the first is better as it clearly conveys that both weapons are being wielded at the same time, whereas the second could just as well be one character asking another what the weapons for a duel will be.

Wizarding School: I think the first paragraph (or even just the first two sentences of the first paragraph) of the The Last Continent quote on the quotes page would work well. It's not too long, and conveys quite clearly that the school is magical. The full thing can be left on the quotes page.

The quote on Mundane Object Amazement is all blue with a pothole, but I'm not so sure it works without it.

Should it be unpotholed and left, or switched with something on the quotes page?

^ I don't think it works without the pothole. I'm not sure it works with the pothole.

Othello has three quotes. I'm thinking the first one might be the best.

Mundane Object Amazement: I don't think the quote works alone, even withthe pothole. The comic might make a good page image, though. For the page quote, how about one from the examples — from Third Rock From The Sun:

Dick: "When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles / And the bottle's on a poodle and the poodle's eating noodles / They call this a muddle puddle tweedle poodle beetle noodle bottle paddle battle!" (beat) This man is a genius!

Mundane Object Amazement: Nope. Doesn't work for me.

Othello: Middle one.

Mundane Object Amazement: Don't like either the current quote (seems irrelevant) or the proposed one (doesn't seem at all mundane).

Othello: First quote. It very nicely encapsulates one of the major themes of the play.

Anyone have a suggestion for Labyrinth that comes from the movie, instead of a review?

I dunno, maybe some narration of Sarah's from early on in the film.

So two things.

One: Ace Attorney used to have a page quote. It was removed without comment back in September, and I have no idea why. Can we put it back? For the record, it was

I thought that maybe it was moved to subpage Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, but nope. Just nixed outright. I haven't checked to see if it had anything to do with this thread, though; if it did, I won't contest it.

Two: I raised this in the Image Pickin' Discussion thread for the article, but it'd fit better here: the quote on Dream Weaver isn't relevant at all. The "dream" the song is about is not a literal dream (what the trope is about), but instead a handsome man (not what the trope is about). Meanwhile, on Quotes.Dream Weaver, a quote from the song "Dream Weaver" (which is about dreams as far as I know) is present, and would fit much better. Admittedly, having a quote that uses the trope name to the letter like so (and isn't an explicit Trope Namer) isn't great, but eh, better than what's on there presently.

edited 27th Oct '13 2:04:28 PM by ShadowHog

On VisualNovel.Ace Attorney, it was Kayube who removed the quote.

Dream Weaver: Slightly support the switch. Same for Labyrinth.

Turns out the quote wound up on Franchise.Ace Attorney. That'd explain it. Of course, now I'm confused as to why we need both a Franchise/ page and a VisualNovel/ page...

Of course, it also shares a page image between the two... gonna have to raise an IPD thread.

edited 27th Oct '13 2:06:01 PM by ShadowHog

The franchise page talks about more stuff than just the VN.

edited 27th Oct '13 2:09:05 PM by SeptimusHeap

Yeah, but then you have the individual game pages to break it up further. Seems kind of redundant?

Well, that's not really the focus of this thread, anyway.

I'd approve of a trimmed-down version of that Labyrinth quote.

The Labyrinth suggestion is really long. How about:

Jareth: You have thirteen hours in which to solve the labyrinth, before your baby brother becomes one of us... forever.

From here.