General Page Quote Discussion:

Too long and page quote can't have potholes. Clip or replace, and remove the potholes if clipped.

So, I wanted to add a quote on the Knight Templar page. This one is from Dragon ball Super. (Jeez, reading Light Yagami quotes makes me realize how much of an expy Zamasu is.)

The quote is:

"Beerus: Nobody preaching about justice is ever a good guy.

(The context: He is talking about Zamasu, a genocidal villain who is killing everyone for the sake of justice.]]

I thought it would be a pretty fun lampshade on the trope.

edited 25th Feb '17 3:26:27 AM by Tomodachi

Quote is more or less okay, but the pothole has to go.

Suggestion for a page quote on Afterlife Express, which currently has none (and specifically includes vehicles other than trains)

Because I could not stop for Death,

He kindly stopped for me;

The carriage held but just ourselves

And Immortality.

—Emily Dickinson, Because I could not stop for Death

edited 27th Feb '17 5:10:39 PM by Madrugada

Looks good to me, no objection here.

Yes definitely to the Dickinson quote. While I'm a big fan of cheesy pop culture (pulp SF, B-movies, etc.), I really think we need a few more page quotes here and there that show a little more high culture, just to maintain some balance. :)

Speaking of which....

Bold Explorer was launched (by yours truly) with the following:

Someone came along later and replaced it unilaterally with a quote from some video game:

I don't hate the new quote, and it does fit, which is why I didn't bring it up previously, but I do think the former is a lot more expressive, and captures the flavor of the trope better, so I thought it was time to see what others thought. (Plus, about half of the new quote is simply an unattributed quote itself of an old hymn.)

eta: The obvious quote (from Star Trek) is already being used on pages for that work, which is why YKTTW/TPL decided not to use it for the trope.

edited 2nd Mar '17 11:09:13 AM by Xtifr

I definitely like the Kipling better. (But I feel the same way about wanting more page quotes that aren't from current popculture.). And unilateral replacement is frowned on, for page quotes as well as page images.

Of course, we could always go with the children's song "The Bear Went Over the Mountain", too

''The Bear went over the mountain,

...to see what he could see."

—Unknown; ''The Bear went over the mountain"

edited 2nd Mar '17 11:35:12 AM by Madrugada

Restore the Kipling

Cuckold's quote is rather long. (Also rather crude.)

I restored the Kipling, and also added Maddy's suggestion to the quotes page.

How about:

If that doesn't suit, there might be something from Shakespeare that would fit.

edited 4th Mar '17 2:30:17 AM by Xtifr

Other than the fact that it mentions cuckold in the last line, I don't see how that fits the trope. It sounds more like May–December Romance.

Cuckold only needs the first four lines. I know it's crude, but I like it. It encapsulates the trope well.

Something from later in the story might work better (since he actually does end up a cuckold). But I didn't really have time to re-read through the whole thing.

How's this for Reality Warping Is Not a Toy?

"I'm sorry! I'm really sorry!"
"What's going on!?"
"Our faces have been smeared with jam, and we're about to be eaten alive by killer ants!"
"Why?"
"Why not?"

—Red Dwarf, "Better than Life"

It matches the trope and I love it to bits, but it's a wee bit long and I'm not sure if it's clear to a non-fan. Y/N?

edited 6th Mar '17 8:35:07 PM by LongLiveHumour

Nothing in there makes it clear that reality warping is involved.

I agree.

Which Cuckold quote do you mean, Madrugada?

Probably the GTA one, since that's the post where you mention crudeness. If that's indeed the case, I agree with the sentiment.

I noticed the page quote on Disney.Zootopia was changed without any discussion or edit reason given.

From:

To:

Rather than choose one over the other, I actually have two (very similar) proposals that I think are better still:

Of the four, I think I like the third (my first suggestion) the best. The first always seemed a bit clinical yo me, and felt like it ended a bit abruptly (since the trailer then goes on to detail the setup further still). The second's much better, but at the same time I didn't quite like that it was jumping to the Rousing Speech at the end of the film, delivering the moral without any of the stuff that led up to it. The two I've suggested highlight a conceit the film presents early on and goes on to repeatedly challenge (given Judy earnestly believes it's true, while deuteragonist Nick Wilde cynically believes otherwise, and there turns out to be a bit of truth behind both viewpoints); both the last two quotes say about the same thing, just with different flavor text surrounding it.

Your thoughts?

edited 7th Mar '17 10:23:55 AM by ShadowHog

This one:

Franklin: You okay, homie? What happened?

Michael: Guy bounced my wife is what happened.

Franklin: Which guy?

Michael: The guy I'm paying to teach her tennis.

I have a proposal for Bizarro Episode:

Re: page quote for Zootopia

I don't like the revised page quote ("Look inside yourself...") either, for much the same reason Shadow Hog mentioned. It jumps to the final moral, rather than presenting the initial premise.

The original page quote ("In the world of Zootopia...") presented the initial premise, but was rather dry. Then again, the first teaser was rather dry, because they were in the process of completely revamping the story at the time.

Both of Shadow Hog's suggestions seem too wordy to me, and seem like they need more context because they haven't been trimmed down much. Here are some ideas for trimming them down to be more concise:

"Just 211 miles away stands the great city of Zootopia, where anyone can be anything!" - Judy Hopps

"Because this is Zootopia; anyone can be anything." - Judy Hopps

And another option might be the tagline used in later advertising:

"Welcome to the urban jungle."

edited 8th Mar '17 10:27:02 AM by mcgrew

Hmm, for the first of those trimmed versions, I still think the "where our ancestors first joined together in peace" clause adds a bit of helpful context to the city's initial premise (and by extension, the film's). We can lose the "It may seem impossible for small minds" part easily, though.

The tagline's currently being used as the image caption, though if we wanted to use it as the page quote, it wouldn't be hard to bring up the matter in IPD.

edited 8th Mar '17 12:42:21 PM by ShadowHog

"Welcome to the urban jungle." sounds more like an image caption to me.

EDIT: And it is. It's fine there.

edited 8th Mar '17 3:04:42 PM by Karxrida

Is the "211 miles away" part really helpful? Maybe this could work:

"The great city of Zootopia, where our ancestors first joined together in peace, and declared that anyone can be anything!" - Judy Hopps

Or maybe even:

"Zootopia, where our ancestors first joined together in peace, and declared that anyone can be anything!" - Judy Hopps

edited 8th Mar '17 3:57:27 PM by mcgrew