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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

drmalpractice Since: Aug, 2016
#701: Aug 5th 2016 at 2:02:25 PM

Is it ok to revert the Iyashikei page? If it's meant to be an index under the genre, titles that lack context is ok, yah? I'm working on adding some descriptions of the works, but the rest can be restored, yah?

editerguy from Australia Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#702: Aug 6th 2016 at 3:02:52 AM

[up]Personally, I think that because it is an obscure topic it is useless as an index with no description. Even if you follow the links to the pages themselves, they don't explain why/if it's Iyashikei either.

It's just my opinion, but I think Iyashikei is different to, say, the Fantasy Series index. At least in that index you can click on a page and it says something like, "this is an urban fantasy novel about a wizard dog who is sent on a quest to eat all the magic sausages in the kingdom" and you aren't confused about why it belongs there anymore.

Well anyway, thanks for adding context to some of the examples. Like I said, it's just my personal opinion that's it's better with context, maybe I got it wrong mass-editing the page.

dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#703: Aug 9th 2016 at 7:16:25 AM

YMMV.Grease has a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment entry for "Those Magic Changes", which explains why it doesn't feel like a BLAM in Grease Live!, but not why it feels like a BLAM in the play.

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#704: Aug 24th 2016 at 3:06:47 PM

New Millennium, Nexus Gate, and Una Pequena Muerte are mostly zero context.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#705: Aug 30th 2016 at 10:43:20 AM

On Sealed with a Kiss, I tried to fix some Disney-related DCEs by adding who kissed, and when they did so. Does it seem like enough context now?

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#706: Oct 11th 2016 at 3:49:25 PM

When hacking away at the natter in Redwall, I did comment out some ZCE's as well. They may need to be expanded on.

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maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#707: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:55:24 PM

Majorly Awesome has a problem with examples that amount to "character holds the rank of major" with no further elaboration.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#708: Nov 5th 2016 at 2:55:39 PM

Ran into it while checking wicks, but Characters.The Inexplicable Adventures Of Bob has mostly no context at all, if someone wants to look at it.

Edit: Commented out a bunch.

edited 7th Nov '16 8:55:58 PM by AnotherDuck

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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#709: Nov 19th 2016 at 7:45:02 PM

Gag Series has a lot of ZCE. The question is, does the example actually need context? Genre pages usually don't.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#710: Nov 20th 2016 at 1:32:55 AM

The page looks like a trope page, so I would apply the same standard. Otherwise people will think the same practices are OK on actual trope pages.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#711: Nov 20th 2016 at 4:32:53 AM

Genre pages are often indexes. This one isn't. And it really does seem to be used more as a trope than as a genre.

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#712: Nov 20th 2016 at 6:35:03 PM

Alright. I've commented the ZCEs out.

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dsneybuf Since: Jul, 2009
#714: Dec 2nd 2016 at 9:56:32 AM

On DisneyDeath.Disney, the folder about aversions and subversions in the MCU seemed pretty incomplete, so I tried to add some more. However, I commented out characters whose demises I couldn't remember. Could someone else please elaborate on them? Thanks.

edited 2nd Dec '16 1:21:52 PM by dsneybuf

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#715: Dec 6th 2016 at 1:13:50 PM

There's a problem on the Characters.Bleach Anime page with zero context examples. I've commented out about a third of the page, with some character sections ending up entirely commented out. However, I haven't finished commenting out. The whole page is a problem.

I know the manga well enough to correct all the problems I see, but I don't know the Anime so well; I can help a bit, but don't know a lot of the characters that are listed. I'm hoping someone else can fix this page.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#716: Dec 18th 2016 at 7:04:06 PM

Are the Anime and Manga examples in Color-Coded Characters Zero Context?

For example:

  • Sailor Moon
    • Sailor Soldiers
      • Usagi/Moon, Pink/White
      • Ami/Mercury,
      • Rei/Mars, Red
      • Makoto/Jupiter, Green
      • Minako/Venus, Orange or Yellow

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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#717: Dec 21st 2016 at 6:01:31 PM

Something Blues is basically all ZC Es, despite being typed as a trope

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Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#718: Dec 22nd 2016 at 5:01:44 PM

[up] Well, it's a title trope. There's really not much to say about it.

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#719: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:52:53 PM

Okay, I haven't seen a more poorly written and ZCE-filled page than this one. I had to comment out 43% of the 97 the examples because they were only trope titles and trope titles plus Word Cruft like "Pretty much everything this character does", and still think that I should've commented out even more. Not to mention the several cases of Weblinks Are Not Examples. This page needs serious context.

edited 9th Jan '17 8:08:44 AM by Gosicrystal

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#720: Dec 25th 2016 at 12:02:19 AM

You think that's bad? Blue is pretty much 100% ZCE; same with the YMMV page. Was it a bad idea to just cutlist it? It only had 8 wicks anyway, so it won't be too hard to revert if someone wants to fix it. Otherwise, back to the drawing board it goes.

Gosicrystal Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#721: Dec 25th 2016 at 4:25:51 AM

[up] You're right, but the page I was talking about is much longer and contains many more ZCEs.

N1KF (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
#723: Dec 30th 2016 at 1:22:58 PM

The Memetic Mutation subpages have a disastrously high number of Zero-Context Examples. Take a look at this, or even just the Western Animation subpage.

I just went through all of the Western Animation subpages and added many of them to Pages Needing Example Context. I may add some more there also.

edited 30th Dec '16 1:47:54 PM by N1KF

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#724: Jan 1st 2017 at 5:26:33 AM

Ozzy & Drix is almost nothing but ZCEs.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
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#725: Jan 8th 2017 at 1:53:56 PM

I would like to call the attention about something I notice in All-Ghouls School

Ok, the issue is this. As a trope is very specific, I mean, it’s a school made of ghouls. As such most of the examples will be very similar. 90% of them would be; there some sort of academic institution + the students are a Monster Mash. Now, one tropper notice this with the ZCE, which is fine. I personally didn’t needed context in Vampire Academy (I have never read the books, nor see the movie, but the name itself give me the context, but maybe is just me). What I did notice what that a lot of very valid and interesting examples did went invisible for this but, at the time of adding myself the examples (of the ones I knew) I felt like a Déjà vu, I was forced to repeat the context because they had more or less the same description /premise.

Some other examples I’ve never heard before, but precisely I was interested in investigating the subject matter. If I wasn’t a troper and thus able to open the edit and check the invisible examples I probably would miss them.

So my question is what to do with that particular trope? I know the ZCE policy is not going to be softened nor even for this particular trope, but at the same time the adding of examples it’s almost impossible not to do it repetitive. Any idea how to avoid both?

edited 8th Jan '17 1:54:26 PM by Luppercus


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