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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

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#251: Mar 28th 2013 at 12:32:02 AM

What's really going on here is that a baritone register sounds powerful and possibly even menacing, which gives the impression that a character is dangerous. Being "Rule of Cool personified" has nothing to do with it. What's actually tropeable is the expectation that someone who speaks in such a way is someone of masculine power (either acknowledged as such by the other characters, usually indirectly, or evidenced through actions)—or trying to give the impression as such. Having a lower register gives weight to their words.

And hey, surprise surprise—ok, not really—this lines up exactly with reasoning behind the male versions of Power Makes Your Voice Deep and Evil Sounds Deep without getting sidetracked on the subjective, Rule of Cool-based, overused "Badass X" meme.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#252: Mar 28th 2013 at 1:10:41 AM

That's an Order!, especially the film examples.

EDIT: I just want to add that I commented out a few examples on My Hovercraft Is Full of Eels before this discussion was paused, and a new thread about ZCE was started.

So just that you know if anyone want to fix it.

edited 1st Apr '13 9:01:21 AM by XFllo

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#253: Mar 30th 2013 at 3:25:36 PM

It's not much, but I've been chipping away at the Highlander character pages filling some out where I can.

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#254: Mar 30th 2013 at 11:15:28 PM

Hillbilly Horrors is essentially nothing but zero context examples. If I were to comment them out, there would be maybe five examples left on the page, out of the twenty or thirty currently there.

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#255: Mar 31st 2013 at 10:43:55 AM

[up]Maybe that one needs a thread in the short term projects forum to gather info?

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#256: Mar 31st 2013 at 10:46:42 AM

I've already on my to-do list - I am sure Wikipedia's ridiculously detailed descriptions contain some useful material.

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#257: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:55:36 PM

Hillbilly Horrors seems to be an index, and we don't normally require descriptions on indexes. See, for example, Science Fiction Literature, which could also technically be called full of Zero Context Examples.

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#258: Mar 31st 2013 at 8:27:23 PM

Let's pause this thread for a while and see if we can build a better consensus on what should be done about ZCE's.

edited 31st Mar '13 8:27:36 PM by FastEddie

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#259: Apr 3rd 2013 at 5:24:38 PM

And we're back.

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#260: Apr 3rd 2013 at 6:35:35 PM

VACATION OVER, WAR ON!

Back to League Of Legends I go. Almost done, bunch of tropers have been providing context to what I've been commenting out.

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#261: Apr 4th 2013 at 3:02:46 AM

[up] Nice.

I'm trying to do Characters.A Song Of Ice And Fire, but I'm still on the first subpage.

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#262: Apr 4th 2013 at 5:35:28 PM

Purged a crapload of them on Space Wolf. Any 40k geeks able to help here? I'm very much a novice. I was able to clean some myself (I've read the first three books but it's been a while).

edited 4th Apr '13 5:36:44 PM by StarSword

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#263: Apr 4th 2013 at 5:49:13 PM

Alright, the League Of Legends character pages are done. I buried the ZCE, murdered any Thread Mode, and sent Example Indentation problems to a torture re-education center.

[up] D'oh, I read the first books myself, but drawing a blank on most of that page.

edited 4th Apr '13 5:50:14 PM by Rotpar

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Terrie Since: Apr, 2011
#265: Apr 5th 2013 at 4:58:57 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/JusticeLeague/TropesA-L has several.

edited 5th Apr '13 4:59:56 PM by Terrie

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#267: Apr 8th 2013 at 1:22:02 PM

Zapped a bunch on a new page, Vampire Girl, in addition to moving it to the right namespace and cutlisting the original. I was able to fill one or two based on the page description.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#268: Apr 9th 2013 at 5:59:46 PM

Noble Male, Roguish Male. It's most obvious in Live Action TV examples, but actually most of them lack context.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#269: Apr 10th 2013 at 9:49:45 PM

Adorkable is currently in Trope Repair Shop. It's agreed that the biggest problem is Zero Context. I'd like to ask you to consider checking the page and its sub-pages. Please have a look at the entries and provide context if you are familiar with the work or the character.

There is probably going to be a massive clean-up or commenting out.

edited 10th Apr '13 10:14:36 PM by XFllo

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#271: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:45:04 AM

Empathy Pet looks like it's entirely examples without context.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#272: Apr 11th 2013 at 8:58:07 PM

Anyone know about this band? Their page seems to have this bad, all but four of the the entries are just song titles, or saying "this person is this trope". It's also a but of a stub.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/ParentheticalGirls?from=Main.ParentheticalGirls

edited 11th Apr '13 8:58:55 PM by shoboni

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#273: Apr 12th 2013 at 6:11:05 AM

I'm having an annoying problem with Hot Mom where tropers are uncommenting ZC Es and other poorly written examples without fixing them. Any advice?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#274: Apr 12th 2013 at 6:13:47 AM

Talk to them over PM. If they are uncommenting large swaths of a page, ask a moderator to revert them in Ask The Tropers.

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Terrie Since: Apr, 2011
#275: Apr 15th 2013 at 8:28:39 AM

Ugh. Advertising is 90+% zero content/web links as examples.

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