Cram school, you mean?
I think I'm going with the "working off a national holiday" excuse, with the previous week's Thursday being the holiday in question. The Friday after it is what everyone's working off. I'll potentially even throw in a scene of Kaworu looking for something to watch on TV and coming across a rebroadcast of Keel's propaganda speech for the occasion (which he already saw live on the holiday itself).
edited 18th Jun '17 4:23:06 PM by amitakartok
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According to basically every single Persona game I've played (3, 4, and 5), students go to regular high school on Saturday, as well as the other main five days a week. Their only true "day off of school" is Sunday.
Wikipedia's say on the matter:
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Well, there's your solution. Alternatively, make it so that the school schedule was changed in the wake of the huge shake-up to the world due to the Combine invasion (this is for SCE, right? IIRC you had an invasion by the Combine being the in-universe reason for why, for example, everyone in Japan speaks English as their first languagenote ).
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Actually, the out-of-universe reason is because Kaworu, Asuka and Asuka's dad can't speak Japanese: the latter two have never been in Japan before and Kaworu can't remember when he was.
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... Canon!Asuka is implied to have never visited Japan either, and yet she's shown to fluently speak the language since age 4. Even if we go with the handwave that the sequences in Germany are all under Translation Convention, she still speaks surprisingly fluently by age 13/14 for someone who was raised outside Japan all her life, and in Germany to boot (no sizeable Japanese diaspora to interact with, unlike the USA); presumably her mom was a fluent speaker note and taught Asuka to consider Japanese as no less her mother tongue than German is.
Alternatively, nothing is stopping Asuka from taking Japanese for her foreign language studies, if only out of interest in the Japanese side of her ethnic heritage.
edited 19th Jun '17 10:14:45 AM by MarqFJA
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This Asuka hasn't even been to Earth in 11 years.
In any case, for long-term linguistic stuff, I considered the possibility of German (and possibly Japanese) being picked up as the future equivalent of Latin as "holy" language a couple of centuries into the future. German because it was Kaworu's native language, Japanese because his faction is disproportionately Japanese by descent. Kinda like the local equivalent of WH 40 K's High Gothic.
It's already been shown that a thousand years into the future, Kaworu is all but limited to speaking in monosyllables in order to be understood. They still speak English but due to a thousand years of language drift, it's more than a little different from the English we use today; it's like modern English trying to converse with pre-medieval English. Another seven thousand years later and any technology that survived that long due to Ragnarök Proofing requires a university professor-level linguist to translate the UI.
New fanfic idea that came to me after binging through Xenogers' trope page.
An Evangelion story that does not take place in Japan. In fact, no country or continent has a name recognizable to the reader. Not just that, but the local equivalent of SEELE are connected to an ancient religion that preaches that humanity brought ruin to heaven and was cast down in punishment. What's more, it's mentioned that the greatest mystery in the field of paleontology is why does humanity suddenly appear in the global fossil record roughly ten thousand years ago with no evolutionary ancestors, recently confirmed to be almost perfectly coinciding with the planet's last mass extinction event.
What's going on is that Rebuild's Third Impact wrecked Earth's ecosystem so badly that after a century of futilely attempting to rebuild civilization on dead soil and toxic water, humanity evacuated on a Sleeper Starship that subsequently crashed due to lack of maintenance. More specifically, the ship found this planet and was in the middle of an automated landing when the deceleration mechanism failed during reentry. The automatics managed to eject the cryogenic sections which used their own independent propulsion to escape and make a soft landing, but the main hull kissed the ground at terminal velocity in a fireball comparable to an asteroid impact.
Most of the cryogenic sections escaped the blast radius in time, but with all but one of the storage sections having went down with the ship, humanity was basically back to the stone age and took ten thousand years to get back to modern technological levels.
What makes this an Evangelion story is that the one storage unit that survived the impact happened to be carrying Evas as an "in case of Angels, break glass" measure. Even worse, that Sleeper Starship was actually based on the Wunder's technology and used Unit 01 as a power source. I have two ideas for antagonists:
- 1. Adam made it to the planet alongside the humans due to SEELE. Enemies are Angels, the good guys' headquarters is in the exact epicenter of the sleeper ship's impact crater. Unit 01 survived the crash and is in the good guys' custody, although they've never managed to activate it so far because the Eva used its Impact shenanigans to reincarnate Shinji's soul and will only respond to him.
- 2. In an ironic reversal of roles, Unit 01 went active as a Seed of Life after the crash and spawned an entire Lilim ecosystem in the impact crater. When the humans discovered it, however, Unit 01 did not recognize them as its spawn and began spawning Lilim Evangelions in the same way Adam spawns Angels to fight off the intruders. Humanity was initially fine with avoiding the crater but recently, the Lilim Evas began wandering beyond the crater and attacking nearby human settlements, resorting in humanity being forced to fight them off with Adamite Evas reverse-engineered off of those the sleeper ship was carrying.
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3. This world already has an Adam and/or Lilith of its own that for some reason went into hibernation mode — perhaps because the apocalyptic impact of the sleeper vessel happened just as said Seed(s) of Life was preparing to beget life of its own and got caught in the blast, forcing it to spend millennia regenerating in its now heavily damaged Black/White Moon. Needless to say, it's pissed once it finally awakens and seeks revenge upon what it sees as interlopers.
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...could work, but the likelihood of the ship happening to stumble upon the exact planet with another Seed on it is kinda low.
Though it could be used as an excuse as to why the local wildlife is biochemically compatible with humanity.
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Not if there were a lot of Seeds on the Panspermia project. Besides, why care about improbability when it's about how the story starts? IMO, that would be part of the premise's charm, especially if a character hangs a lampshade on it later on.
Also, consider that the All Planets Are Earth-Like article mentions the following:
Honestly speaking, I find that the All There in the Manual "canon" stating that only seven Seeds (no specifics how many of them are Adams/Liliths, or if it's seven of each) exist to be very odd considering the immense number of habitable worlds and the FAR being such Sufficiently Advanced Aliens. So yeah, I'm of the camp that calls Fanon Discontinuity on that bit of "canon" (which may not have been even canon back when NGE was first made; apparently the staff never thought deeply about some of the stuff in the NGE setting that was never addressed on-screen/panel or only vaguely alluded to) and assumes that the FAR made hundreds, thousands, or even millions of Seeds of Life.
edited 20th Jun '17 8:20:52 AM by MarqFJA
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What if they made only seven seeds of life deliberately, in order to leave some inhabitable planets uninhabited, so that the spawn of the seeds of life had space to expand?
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
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...fanon discontinuity is a thing of evil. Don't do it.
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That would be a plausible explanation for not making a Seed for every habitable planet, but not for making only seven in a galaxy with millions of Earth-like habitable planets.
By that logic, I must accept Word of God (which, AFAIK, came in quite late) for the name spellings of Hunter × Hunter characters that gives us the following (name as phonetically pronounced, then "official" spelling):
- Kurapika - Curarpikt
- Hisoka - Hyskoa
- Kuroro Lucifer - Quwrof Wrlccywrlir
- Ubogin - Wbererguin
- Shizuku - Chzzok
- Pakunoda - Phalcnothdk
- Machi - Matiy
- Phynx - Phynkss
- Feitan - Heytun
- Kortopi - Colhtophy
- Shalnark - Syarnorke
- Franklin - Fulunkln
- Bonolenov - Vonnornoth
By the same logic, I must accept that UQ Holder! is deserving of being called a sequel to Mahou Sensei Negima!. I will warn you now, daring to make that claim anywhere but the UQ Holder thread is guaranteed Flame Bait for very good reasons.
edited 20th Jun '17 7:26:37 PM by MarqFJA
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... I don't think Hunter x Hunter follows the same logic as NGE.
UQ Holder might, though. As in: "Might look nice for a few episodes/chapters, but in the end, just drives you deeper in despair".
Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
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@Marq: .....suffice to say, you and I have a difference of opinion.
On the topic of actual Evangelion fanwork, I'm thinking of actually going ahead and producing a Darkstalkers crossover. Now, I do still have the longer one focused on B.B. Hood in the back of my mind, but this would actually be a WAFF-focused one-shot focused on Shinji and Lilith, who senses late-series Shinji's despair and attempts to comfort him.
..........I somehow managed to go until literally this moment before realizing the Names The Same thing with the Second Angel. </facepalm>
I always get a little confused when people talk about the Evangelion franchise by calling it depressing.
edited 21st Jun '17 12:43:20 AM by EvaUnit01
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... Why are you potholing Cosplay Otaku Girl into Lilith Aensland's name? Is that a reference to her Marionette Show super, where she dresses up as a Playboy Bunny?
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Don't wish reading Negima on anyone...talk about a disappointment.
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I feel that the manga had its positive moments, but by then it had already gone through the genre shift. While I found the harem antics amusing, I'm kinda glad the author managed to get it away from there and not have it as a repeat of Love Hina in some fashion...
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I think the disappointment there is the way it ended.
Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).
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Yeah, everything was generally fine up at worst and excellent at best until the Ala Alba began their assault on Ostia. That's when the writing quality began a consistent decline, at first with irregular frequency, before becoming very prevalent by the post-Mundus Magicus arc, and hitting an all-time peak in the Sports Festival.
But this isn't the Negima thread, so...
If the Evangelion cast were insect-based Cute Monster Girls (or Cute Monster Boys/Men, in the case of the males), what kind of insect would each one be? I can't think of Ritsuko as anything other than a spider, for example.
edited 22nd Jun '17 5:51:01 AM by MarqFJA
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My difference of opinion stems from two things. 1) I get immensely pissed off when people say "sequel/spin-off I don't like doesn't deserve to exist", and especially when they say "it's just a shitty fanfic that got published by accident." That just insults everyone's intelligence. 2) I never put Negima on as wildly high of a pedestal as you or a lot of the other guys did. So when you say phrases like "deserving to be called a sequel", my reaction is something along the lines of "What it deserves is irrelevant. It is a sequel to at least one timeline. Deal with it."
That's not intended as an insult, Marq, it's just a fact of life.
Now, if you want to claim Alternate Continuity, that's something I don't have a problem with.
Same here, except my dislike of Fanon Discontinuity is more along the lines of "Who the fuck are YOU to say what's canon and isn't, you nameless, unknown piece of shit? Dislike it if you want, but do not think for even a fucking NANOSECOND that you're a higher authority than the guy who wrote it."
I just tend not to say it out loud because statements like that are a mite... offensive.
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<sigh> And I was hoping that we're not going to derail this thread any further.
Don't like that? Sue me.
I just tend not to say it out loud because statements like that are a mite... offensive.
Tolkien earned such status with all the effort he put into the Middle-earth legendarium; that's why I'd never dream of messing around with the story or setting without explicitly clarifying that it's an Alternate Universe / Alternate Continuity and that it's not out of dissatisfaction with the source material. Hideo Kojima is in a similar position, for all his eccentricities... and that's before we factor in FucKonami note .
Fuckamatsu is no Tolkien, nor is he a Hideo Kojima; he lost any right to being "first and last authority" on Negima the moment it became clear that he didn't Torch the Franchise and Run just because of his editors, but rather because he thought (and apparently still does think) that such ideas as the Sports Festival and the Gainax Ending for the manga were honestly good, as well as the way UQ Holder proceeds from where Negima ended with both the setting and the Negima characters.
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I don't know if/how this applies to SCE's setting, but Real Life Japan does have school on Saturday.