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"Genre" screws up references: Super Robot Genre get usage counts

 76 Marq FJA, Wed, 9th May '12 3:47:10 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I suggest adding a concise explanation to the At Issue box, in case a voter is too much in a hurry or lazy to flip through the thread.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 77 Septimus Heap, Wed, 9th May '12 3:48:52 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]Do that. I am not an expert on robots and mechas so I didn't do it when I made the crowner.

 78 Marq FJA, Wed, 9th May '12 3:52:27 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Well, if we can summarize this post to a more manageable length, I would do it right away.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
The issue with the splitting is that it's more "split the genre off the mecha" than "split the mecha off the genre" - the current pages always described the mecha, and the rename to "genre" made their names misleading.

edited 13th May '12 7:11:42 AM by Prime32

 
 80 ccoa, Tue, 15th May '12 10:23:23 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Calling crowner in favor of splitting:

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 81 ccoa, Sun, 17th Jun '12 9:05:49 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Any progress here?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 82 Septimus Heap, Mon, 18th Jun '12 1:52:42 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
In Real Robot Genre, most of the description is about the robots, so the split just needs a writeup of a definition. In Super Robot Genre, most of the description is about the genre.

I think we need the help of the crowner descriptions - and someone familiar with both genres/robots.

 83 ccoa, Wed, 1st Aug '12 7:55:59 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Is this going to be done, or does this need to be shelved?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Terracotta Soldier Man
[up][up] That's actually the fundamental difference between them right there, in a nutshell. A better way to put it is that Super Robots are treated like they're characters, while Real Robots are treated like they're equipment, in the way the shows handle them.

That said, I think I'll write a paragraph or two on what, exactly, a Super Robot is, since the page is fairly bare-bones.

edited 8th Oct '12 1:00:24 AM by Specialist290

 85 Septimus Heap, Thu, 27th Dec '12 2:05:28 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Bumping this. I've looked over this, and I see that the crowner descriptions seem to be a good starting point for descriptions. Can we use them as descriptions?

 86 Native Jovian, Thu, 3rd Jan '13 5:16:46 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Given that I wrote those descriptions in the first place (...more than a year ago? Sheesh), I could whip up some sandbox versions of the four pages required, but sorting examples and wicks is going to be waaaay more than a one-man job.
 87 Septimus Heap, Fri, 4th Jan '13 2:05:19 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Nobody has said that it will be a single person work to move wicks and examples. I am not competent enough to help with sandboxing.

 88 Native Jovian, Sat, 5th Jan '13 12:41:41 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Well, yeah. I was just asking for help with wicks and examples, basically.

Preliminary version of Sandbox.Super Robot is up. I'll post more sandboxes as I make 'em.
 89 Septimus Heap, Mon, 7th Jan '13 6:34:15 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
I like the draft of Sandbox.Super Robot.

 90 Native Jovian, Mon, 7th Jan '13 9:13:57 PM from Orlando, Florida
 91 Septimus Heap, Tue, 8th Jan '13 5:41:30 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
That one looks good as well. That said, I am not an expert in this stuff.

What about the checklist on the current page?

edited 9th Jan '13 3:01:57 PM by Prime32

 
 93 Native Jovian, Wed, 9th Jan '13 6:46:36 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
The checklist on Main.Super Robot, you mean? Quite frankly, it's hideously long and borderline useless. Most of the stuff on it is mentioned in the description already, and the ones that aren't are either hideously vague, not restricted to super robots, or both. I mean, that checklist includes things like "uses green energy" and "has a name that starts with G, unless it's Gundam, which doesn't count". If there's anything specific in the checklist that didn't make it into the sandbox writeup that you think should, let me know, but by and large I'm happy to axe the whole checklist.
 94 lu 127, Wed, 9th Jan '13 11:54:50 PM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
That checklist is awful. Torch it with extreme prejudice.
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 95 Septimus Heap, Thu, 10th Jan '13 1:01:09 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
I remember that that section became the subject of an edit war once.

At best, it's Analysis/ fodder.

 96 Native Jovian, Sun, 13th Jan '13 10:40:18 PM from Orlando, Florida
 97 Native Jovian, Sat, 19th Jan '13 3:18:50 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Preliminary version of Sandbox.Real Robot Genre up. I'm not particularly happy with that one, but it's been almost a week, so I wanted to get something up.
 98 Native Jovian, Sat, 9th Feb '13 1:11:12 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Bump. We've got Sandbox.Super Robot, Sandbox.Super Robot Genre, Sandbox.Real Robot, and Sandbox.Real Robot Genre which have descriptions but need examples sorted into them (plus better page quotes and images). I'd also like to see some more commentary on them before they go live, given that me and Septimus are really the only ones who've said anything about them so far.
 99 Native Jovian, Sat, 9th Mar '13 7:47:16 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
So, I finally got around to starting sorting examples for Real Robot and I ran into a problem. Should this just apply to Humongous Mecha, or can related tropes (like Powered Armor and Spider Tank) count as well? There are a fair number of non-Humongous Mecha examples in Real Robot Genre, but the way I wrote the new descriptions, they refer to Humongous Mecha exclusively.

edited 9th Mar '13 7:48:13 PM by NativeJovian

 100 Marq FJA, Sun, 10th Mar '13 6:08:00 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Are there any Super Robot counterparts to these? Because IINM the Real Robot Genre was born as a reaction to the Super Robot Genre.
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