These are what we call the 'YMMV items.' Things that some people find in this work. We call them 'your mileage might vary' because not everyone sees these things in the same way. This starts discussions in the trope lists, a thing we don't want. Please use the discussion page if you'd like to discuss any of these items.
Speaking of, there's also Relius Clover. While he is an extremely callous individual, everything he does, no matter how ghastly, is in the name of science. This ranges from his handling of the Clover ladies to the invocation of the Black Beast in That Which Is Inherited to even - gasp - the Mind Rape of Makoto Nanaya. Also, in his Arcade mode, he never acts aggressively towards his designated opponents, and he even warns Carl, the very son who has been unerringly hounding him for the entire story, not to throw his life away in such a mad pursuit. In Relius' Story mode (Darkness Visible), he gives Carl a glimpse of the world through his own viewpoint instead of coldly assailing him as seen in Carl's story. Is it possible that something befell Ada that moving her into Nirvana was necessary, and that events conspired to keep him from explaining to Carl? Maybe not, but that leaves the question where his pragmatism ends and the monstrosity begins.
Ascended Meme: Bang mentions "Ice Cars" after one storyline battle with Jin in Calamity Trigger Reconstruction.
Stay back, my loyal subordinates! This is my fight, and you stand no chance against one who spams "Ice Cars" so frequently...
Author's Saving Throw: Thanks to the events of Continuum Shift a lot of jaded viewers were really unforgiving towards certain characters particularly Litchi and especially Kokonoe in which a portion of the fanbase is convinced they are now either unsympathetic or evil. However some of the new Story Mode material in Extend (and to a lesser extent, II) have tried to convince the fanbase that characters such as Litchi and Kokonoe are still good.
The BBCS Extend story modes also try to prove that Rachel is on the side of good as well as she gets to do much more heroic deeds such as aid Makoto and go after Relius.
Base Breaker: Ever since her announcement, Platinum managed to take over all the thunder Makoto had gained from her's. This has been dying down as of late due to backlash, and because people are getting over the shock. Her hatred among part of the fanbase has fueled love for her among the rest for using her to TROLL her haters. The majority of her popularity is formed from her hatedom; a very odd case.
Half the fanbase now considers Litchi this especially after her Face-Heel Turn. One base thinks it's good that she's finally in the main meat of storyline, another base think she's a complete idiot for doing so. Another base thinks she's still tragic in doing things she didn't want to, and another base think her true nature is one of being a completely selfish and obsessive bitch. In other words, read the Sliding Scale of Unavoidable vs. Unforgivable. Some considers Litchi's actions to be in the 'Unavoidable' camp, the rest is in 'Unforgivable' camp.
Makoto as well. There's a camp for those who thinks she always will be the lovable squirrel girl, as well as taking over the 'Ms. Fanservice and Good Morality Queen' throne when they think Litchi failed, there's also camp for those who thinks she hasn't beaten Litchi in that term. Then there's a camp who thinks her only purpose is for shameless fanservice. Then there's also a camp who thinks she's slowly growing into a dreaded Mary Sue.
Hazama/Terumi himself! A 'shallow' bastard who's... fun, entertaining and hilarious? Or is he just so utterly atrocious that all those 'fun, entertaining and hilarious' factors get squished with extreme prejudice and he is a Villain Sue (much of these accusations coming in part from his overexposure and fans sick of him never losing inspite of them) who is devoid of positive qualities even for those beyond the fourth wall, ranking so high up there in depravity and unlikableness like Dr. Weil and Akihiro Kurata?
Three words: Continuum Shift II. There are people who think that it's the most balanced version of the game yet, and then there are the people who despise the new metagame which, instead of rewarding you for stylish combos, now rewards you for getting your opponent in the corner and stunlocking them.
It got so bad that a lot of people didn't buy Extend because "it's the same game with only one new character and a rushed attempt at undoing the butchering of everyone's mid-screen game."
Valkenhayn, like Jubei, he's been requested by many fans to become a playable character, and that wish has now come true.
Even before Kokonoe was revealed to have inherited her mother's talent for magic, she was a fairly popular request to be playable. It helps that she is a direct descendant of two of the Six Heroes... She's even complained about the fact that she isn't playable yet in Valkenhayn's Help Me! Professor Kokonoe! segment.
Jubei is one of the most requested NPCs to be a playable character, and probably the most requested now that Makoto and Valkenhayn are playable. It helps that he's now the only one of the Six Heroes who's still alive that hasn't been confirmed as a playable character. And no, Phantom doesn't count. They haven't explicitly said she's Nine... yet.
Relius, with the wake of the anti-Hazama protests (that Hazama becomes too oversaturated and nearing Villain Sue territory), becomes one, thanks to not yet being oversaturated. As well as his Astral and jokes about him being a "family man."
Fan Disservice: There have been a few artists who have chosen to draw male characters, such as Ragna, Jin, Bang, Terumi, and Hakumen in Makoto Nanaya's outfit, the results of which are not pretty.
Bang is hands-down the best character in this version, tied with Valkenhayn, Litchi, and Ragna. During the transition from CT to CS he gained several priority and damage buffs which made him able to beat out nearly all other attacks and get insane damage off of wallbounce combos. In addition, if a player knew how to use Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan, this could get even more ridiculous, with even longer and more damaging combos.
Litchi's okizeme is the best in the game due to her ability to effectively loop the opponent using a long combo into her Great Wheel super. By the time the combo ends and restarts, she has gained enough meter to use another Great Wheel.
Ragna's combos are extremely easy, last too long, and give him insane amounts of meter.
Valkenhayn is what happens when you combine all three big aspects of the above characters into one. He has excellent meter gain, a rather low learning curve, and has insane shenanigans with his wolf form. A basic combo with a super ender could deal somewhere within the 5000s damage-wise. And his expert combos can go up to around 8000.
Platinum the Trinity. One of her attacks hits you at all ranges, cannot be jumped over, and takes away one-eighth to a full quarter of Hakumen's (the second-highest HP character in the game) healthbar. The rest of her attacks qualify as well, able to lay waste to even the most skilled of Hakumen and Tager players due to their insanely-high damage and spamability.
Makoto became the new substitute for Bang, being able to deal insane amounts of damage from any range.
Noel became the new substitute for Ragna, not helped by the fact that she's easier than Ragna and her moves have higher priority and invincibility frames.
Hazama substitutes for Litchi in the fact that while he is the most difficult to play of the top tiers, he rewards players with amazing corner damage and meter gain.
Hilarious in Hindsight: Valkenhayn reasons in his "Help Me Professor Kokonoe" segment that ArcSys hasn't made Kokonoe a playable character yet because they're waiting for the series's popularity to wane so they can use her as their trump card. While it has actually happened to the company as a whole, at least in Shaun K's opinion, one has to wonder if that's the reason why she was confirmed as a DLC character for Chronophantasma.
Some of the Continuum Shift joke endings really lay into this, big time, like Arakune's which has "Storekeeper" Jin falling in-love with "Princess" Ragna... Hazama is apparently meant to be marrying "Princess" Ragna.
Taokaka also gropes Litchi's breasts at several points. And Tsubaki's. And she'd probably grab Noel's and Rachel's as well if they weren't flat chested.
As it is revealed in Calamity Trigger Reconstruction, it's Tao's greeting procedure. The first thing she did after meeting Noel is to grope her and thus christening her "Lacking Lady." At the very least Rachel was smart enough to use Gii as a distraction.
It's the Same, so It Sucks: Continuum Shift Extend. It's the game you already have, but with more single player content, a new online system that probably isn't all that different, and all the DLC you paid for is already in the game, either unlocked from the beginning or unlockable. Add in the fact that Mori already said they want to work on a 3rd part, and now you have a lot of people unwilling to get the game because the aforementioned features being there from the start is essentially a big slap in the face.
Magnificent Bastard: Anything bad that happens in the story of BlazBlue, especially in Continuum Shift, can be traced to none other than Terumi himself. Bonus points for being a Japanese take on The Joker... Although as of late, his tendency to not keep his cool in case his plans just went off the rails even in a slight way makes him less magnificent to some.
Relius also. Completely suckering Sector Seven when he started making Ignis is one of such moment of magnificent bastardry to behold.
Relius, however, is the undisputed king of this trope within the series. Doesn't matter who or what you are, he will use his Astral on you, take you to his "secret lab" and "conduct experiments" on you.
This is taken up another notch with his new Astral variant for Tsubaki, and the one for Bullet.◊ As Makoto would say, "Come on, Colonel... what's up with that look?"
The most hilarious instance of this, which was probably done intentionally, is when he beats Carl in his story mode. When he begins showing Carl the reason behind his actions, the camera kindly decides to zoom in on his crotch,◊ which has an extremely visible bulge.
Lambda personally doesn't cross it, but the scientists who experiment on her and later, arguably Kokonoedefinitely do.
As of current, Kokonoe starts garnering much hatred for her actions, starting from minor things like refusing to help Litchi, making her desperate and pull a Face-Heel Turn, and especially... her treatment to Lambda. She admits to Lambda that even she's crossed the moral Point of No Return as a scientist and cannot be saved.
Terumi and Relius Clover seem to be in a competition to see who can cross more Moral Event Horizons faster. Currently, Terumi is winning, but mostly because he's had more time. For Hazama/Terumi:
Creating the Black Beast, for starters. And creating the Azure Grimoire... both versions.
Personally mind-raping, and/or ruining the entire lives of almost every member of the main cast, and several secondary characters. Half the time he didn't even need to do it. He just enjoys what he does.
Terumi opened up the game crossing the line, but when he shoves Noel into the Cauldron to turn her into a Murakumo Unit, or rather the Kusanagi Unit, that... that was it. That was the line, way back there. Made even worse by the fact that in Noel's ending, he Mind Rapes her and erases her memories of everybody she ever knew or cared about. While laughing and mocking her feeble attempts to resist her temperament into Kusanagi.
How he treats Tsubaki in the console version after she loses her sight. For example, in Wheel of Fortune, he gives her a Reason She Sucks Speech, telling her that she does everything she does for others only because she wants to feel needed, and she only wants to be close to Jin because she wants him to need her, she's nothing if she doesn't feel needed, and that Jin doesn't care about her. This causes Tsubaki to break down in tears, at which point Hazama is satisfied with himself, and happily trots off. Oh, yes, and he had no reason whatsoever to do this. Tsubaki was just unlucky enough to be in a conversation with him.
Tsubaki seems to have gotten the short end of the stick in her stories already. Cue Hakumen's bad ending. Hazama beats the blind Tsubaki up to mock Hakumen for having feelings for her. Even though he loses to Hakumen in battle, after Relius Clover gives him a hand and Kusanagi appears, Terumi uses Tsubaki as a hostage to make the H-man surrender - while also reminding him he will enjoy murdering his ex-love either way. All just a while after Haku and Tsubaki share a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming.
Then there's Carl's bad ending in CS, where Hazama rips Ada apart while a helpless Carl cries and begs for him to stop. Hazama then picks up Carl by his collar, delivers a brutal Breaking Speech to him, and ends by killing Carl by tossing him into the Cauldron. It's non-canon, but still."Why soserious, Carl Clover?
Abusing his authority in the NOL to order Tsubaki to kill her best friend and the man she loves. When she fails to do either, he takes it a step further by selectively revealing to her the alternate past in which Noel did not exist and she would have worked with Jin instead of her. This inevitably leads to her Face-Heel Turn. He fails to mention the fact that, in that alternate past, she would have died a year before the game started.
In a true display of bastardry, he outright mocks Tsubaki right after she dies in her bad ending, actually laughing at her for dying. In the drama CD The Wheel of Fortune, this gets even worse: Not only does he mock Tsubaki for dying and laughs at her much like in her bad ending in Continuum Shift, but he actually kicks her dead body. In the face.
Read the Manipulative Bastard entry above for Litchi. Terumi plans everything to get her into desperation and be dependent on NOL from the start, like a doctor who poisons a population and tells them to get the cure by joining his 'cult'.
... You know what, look back at Hazama's opening movie. He just walks casually to the stage of Mu-12... activates the thing there... then cue to NOL branch, lots and lots of NOL soldiers, random Joes just doing their job and earning their living, being reduced to orbs (those are their souls) and the orbs was sucked into that... thing to activate Mu-12. Cue the psychotic laughter of Terumi. Long story short, Tsubaki's the only survivor of the Kagutsuchi branch still loyal to the NOL due to brainwashing. Noel defected after Ragna broke her tempering, Jin defected after the events of Calamity Trigger, and if Makoto hadn't turned traitor prior to her arrival at the Kagutsuchi branch, she sure did then.
Trapping his own daughter, Ada, inside the Nox Nyctores Nirvana, Moral Event Horizon: abandoning his children, and leaving Nirvana half-done, so that poor Carl has to clean up the mess easily takes the cake, then saddling his son Carl with Nirvana knowing full well that it will slowly devour his emotions.
Using the knowledge he gained from his experiments on his daughter, he "perfected" his doll-making technique and used his wife to make the new-and-improved version. Apparently with the help of Kokonoe.
Generally when Relius shows in a character's story path, it means he/she is on a one way trip to the bad ending.
He put Tager through a brutal torture in his bad ending, killing him simply to power up Ignis.
As mentioned above, Makoto's bad ending. What he does to her will most certainly make your blood boil (or alternatively, finally consider Relius a worthy and powerful villain that needs to be taken into consideration).
No Yay: Makoto and Relius are all kinds of wrong when put in the same arena. Relius is, well, Relius, her variant of Altar of the Puppet is visually demeaning and vocally disturbing (listen to him talk, then let it set in), she clearly wants none of it, and then there's her Extend bad ending◊ (apply directly to the cortex...). Is it any wonder she has a Particle Flare routine just for him?
Surprisingly averted in Extend. Aside from Tager dealing massive damage if you get too close, none of the opponents are particularly threatening to someone with a modest amount of skill due to the lack of any Unlimited characters appearing. Some players even go in expecting it to be hell and leave with an easy victory.
"Serpent's Infernal RAPTURE!" (cue player swearing at the screen)
Starting in Continuum Shift, each character has a list of 10 challenges, and (with the exception of the first two, which teach you the special attacks your character has) each challenge consists of one or two combos. Some of these combos are short, sweet, and fairly easy to pull off. These combos are often placed in Challenge 3 or 4, or occasionally 5. Challenge 10 for every single character is hell itself. And god help the Arakune players...
That One Boss: Unlimited Nu-13 & Ragna in Score Attack. The fact that you have to fight them both CONSECUTIVELY, doesn't help either.
Unlimited Hazama at the end of Continuum Shift's Arcade mode. He's even worse in Ragna's story mode, when you can't use your drive!
Also in Continuum Shift, for some, Score Attack, since it's the new way to unlock Unlimited Characters and it is very difficult to do it with every character.
That One Sidequest: ScoreAttack. Fucking ScoreAttack. The AI is ramped up in all the stages, making beating any of them a pain if you can't exploit them. Then you get the final four stages where you fight overpowered versions of 4 of the cast.
Specifically, you fight Unlimited Hakumen, Unlimited Hazama, Unlimited Rachel, and Unlimited Ragna (not necessarily in that order). Have fun dying.
Aaand good luck with Unlimited Mars, where you fight against a marathon of Unlimited Characters... with highest difficulty.
They Changed It, Now It Sucks: With the balance changes provided by Continuum Shift II, some fans have had this reaction regarding nerfs and the game's overall change from "combo opponent to death" to "get opponent in the corner, then combo them to death".
Tager in Continuum Shift has surprisingly become this. We say surprisingly because he's low-tier, but is widely hated by new players due to his high damage output and his Gadget Finger.
In vanilla Continuum Shift, Rachel is so hilariously underpowered that she's considered to be nigh unplayable.
Early impressions of Continuum Shift II indicate that Arakune is once again evading the nerf bat with his infamous Curse loops and is for once the outright top dog in preliminary tier lists. Whilst everyone else seems to be very well balanced, at least he requires some technical skill to be used to the best of his ability.
Although this is lessened by the fact she's the game's Breakout Character and number one Ensemble Dark Horse, Taokaka took a drop in popularity in Continuum Shift for having the Taunt Loop, the game's only infinite combo. One mistake was all it took for a decent Taokaka player to repeatedly hit you with this combo until you died.
Ragna used to be this in Continuum Shift, but he was quickly replaced in Continuum Shift 2 by NOEL of all people.
In Continuum Shift 2, we have Noel's best bud Makoto. With her ridiculously high damage output, high speed, good hit-stun and easy-to-use combos, many people complained when they found that Makoto could easily force them into the corner and then consistently hit them with 5-7k damage combos. She is considerably nerfed for Extend.