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This is not a Kingdom Hearts game.
Dale, you went too far this time.
suicidemouse.avi is the bad ending.
Mickey, depressed from how he cannot erase the inert buildings, walks down a line a gray buildings and goes mad and kills himself.
Alternatively, suicidemouse.avi will be the projector leading back to Dark Beauty Castle
It will start out looking like the clip shown, but then it'll become just a series of platforms and debris. Nothing left except for that. Plus it fits being the final 2D level for the final stage.
The entire game takes place inside a Alternate Universe Walt Disney's head where he is Alive and Insane
The whole plot of Epic Mickey is really All Just a Dream or a dying dream, hallucination, or what have you of a alternate reality Walt Disney who never died decades ago. However he probably never became as successful as his counterpart here in our reality and failed in every animation job he ever had.
All this failure most likely led to years of self resentment and later self destructive behavior (excessive substance abuse, clinical depression, alcoholism) all this probably created a paranoid schizophrenic mentality which made him believe that his own cartoon creations were literally out to get him (primarily Oswald, his most beloved creation (at least in that universe) which he probably sold to another animator for drug/booze money), and only his other best creation, Mickey, could save him from his own nightmares.
So the entire game is just a typical dream in Alternate!Walt's mind who's watching us (the player as Mickey) from a fevered and Ranting third person perspective as we unknowingly fight the phantom blot (Alternate!Walt's Id Gone Horribly Wrong) for his very remaining sanity. And why don't we ever see this vision of a Wino/hobo raving Disney from the sidelines? Well, in most third person dreams the characters/creatures in them don't notice us watching them unless they're first person perspective/lucid dreams.
This also explains why Mickey in the game looks no different from his Golden Age appearance, since no Mickey cartoons were produced since the 20's. All the rest of the look of the game is just the rest of Walt's dreams are ruined and in dark disfigured tatters (a Disneyland/Disney World that was never created, all of Mickey's accolades he never received...)
Think about it. Ever since Epic Mickey was even in the planning stage, Oswald's semi-unknown popularity has skyrocketed. He came back to the ownership of Disney through a flesh and blood human, where all of his classic shorts were quickly made available through Disney Treasures DVD. Also, inevitably, he will become even more popular once the game comes out. It's possible that they might even be Breaking the Fourth Wall as an explanation for him to escape.
The real Big Bad is Julius the Cat
...who predated even Oswald as Disney's first recurring animated character.
 . The Phantom Blot has merged with The Horned King.
The way he looks like a Lich would have this explanation make sense, also taking into consideration that the Horned King is an obscure villain.
Pete is a reluctant ally.
Let's face it, if Oswald wants to rub out Mickey for being more well known, then the Blot will want to rub out Pete for being more well known.
At some point, Mickey will travel through settings taken from Song of the South.
It's obscure to the point where Disney has deliberately kept the movie from video release, sounds like it counts to me.
The Mad Doctor is the one that builds the Beetleworx enemies
Was recently hinted at as appearing in the game and making creepy monsters like that would be very fitting.
Oswald will be made out to be fairly sympathetic.
Freudian Excuse aside, the guy's pretty similar to Mickey in personality. I'm having trouble picturing him as an outright villain.
The game is set in the Kingdom Hearts universe.
Specifically, it's the story of how Mickey became king of Disney Castle.
Mickey has been corrupted by the Phantom Blot's influence.
Look at this ◊ Game Informer cover and notice how the paint on Mickey's ears seems to be running off. I haven't thought out the specifics, but maybe Phantom Blot did something to him?
One of Mickey's allies is going to meet a tragic end.
Well, this IS designed to scare the crap out of kids. Why not instill them with the knowledge that we're all doomed to die sometime? After all, Disney is also famous for creating some tear-jerking scenes.
Oswald will either be a second playable character obtained later in the game, or a Secret Character unlocked after beating the game.
A lot of emphasis is placed on Oswald being the "half-brother" of Mickey, and how Mickey has to earn his trust once again. He's pretty much the second main character of the game. Therefore, it'd be a logical extension for him to be a playable character at some point.
The Mad Doctor is the Phantom Blot.
In the 1933 cartoon, the Mad Doctor is wearing a black cloak that makes him look exactly like the classic design of the Phantom Blot. It'd be a nice little Mythology Gag (and plot twist) if the two were one and the same.
A Brain in a Jar will be a boss
It will be all but said to be Walt Disney's.
The setting of this game will appear in the next Kingdom Hearts
It will be called something along the lines of The Forgotten World. Oswald will be your ally, and the Shadow Blot, now a shadow of his former self, will be a boss (downgraded from the Final Boss).
The Phantom Blot's lair/Final Level will be The Castle That Never Was.
If this game happens after the Kingdom Hearts games, it'd be a good place to hang around, waiting for Mickey. The World That Never Was is also corrupted due the Blot's influence.
The Phantom Blot is why The Heartless and Nobodies exist to begin with.
At least the Pure Blood heartless. Notice how the Shadow Heartless look a bit like ink when they move around to assault you? The Blot's fault. The Nobodies simply were a side effect he didn't see coming after trying to create Heartless using people rather than only Ink. And he CREATED Kingdom Hearts! (The Moon, not the game)
Toon Wasteland is home to Disney characters who are forgotten. Xion is a (semi) Disney character who is forgotten in universe. I'd expect her to defend Mickey to Mortimer as she is also a copy of The Hero character.
Characters from past Disney TV Animation shows are trapped in the Wasteland.
Considering how Disney basically likes to pretend their past TV cartoons never existed, it would not surprise me if Mickey were to run into Gadget Hackwrench or Tino during his travels in the Wasteland. Of course, since Darkwing Duck has got a new comic book coming out, that probably means he and his co-stars found a way out.
The games started out as a throwback to Kingdom Hearts
Before Sora was created, Mickey was supposed to be the protagonist, but Disney wanted Donald Duck.
The Phantom Blot Villain in the 1999 cartoon based himself off the Shadow Blot in Epic Mickey.
I mean, think about it! This could have taken place just before The Phantom Blot cartoon, and the guy behind the blot could have tried making himself this villain to become scary enough to cause a crime wave.
The Power Rangers will appear in the game
Disney forgot about the show, so why not?
Kingdom Hearts Mickey will appear.
During a random boss fight, Mickey will be defeated, and then KH Mickey will intervene and save the day, and he will be an important ally.
On that note, there may in fact be Legacy versions of Mickey Mouse, just like there are Legacy versions of Pete and all of the extras.
The Phantom Blot isn't an Inky Eldritch Abomination.
He's in a control room, controlling a Beetleworx that resembles his monstrous form, and when he's shown, he'll be in his cloak, as always. Jossed.
Chernabog will be a boss.
...No real reason for saying this, other than it would be awesome.
Chernabog will be THE Final Boss.
Above Troper's statement reminds me of a WMG I had with a friend the other day: Ink and Thinner didn't spontaneously create the blot: It was Chernabog. Creating the Shadow Blot, corrupting Cartoon Wasteland, wanting Hearts (perhaps to go to the real world?): it's all just part of a huge, epic Xanatos Gambit he planned all along when he saw Mickey spill the aforementioned fluids.
(At the very least, he should be a boss; he's both from Fantasia and mostly Forgotten by the Disney Animated Canon).
There are TWO Phantom Blots in the Wasteland.
In the game's introduction, we see a guy in a Phantom Blot costume working with Oswald to slice open Mickey and steal the mouse's heart, despite the audience knowing full well the Phantom Blot that Mickey accidentally created is an Eldritch Abomination. The "normal" looking Blot is most likely the one who is slowly corrupting Oswald, breaking the rabbit's spirit and directing all his hatred directly at the mouse, all under the order of the "Demon" Blot. In fact, the "normal" Blot may be the avatar who represents the "Demon" Blot to the Wasteland Public, directly enforcing the "Demon" Blot's rule and setting up all the evil that occurs. In fact.....
Dippy Dog is The Dragon to the Phantom Blot.
This character is even MORE forgotten by the Disney universe at large. While Oswald is an actual, living character created by Walt Disney himself, Dippy Dog was merely the original name Goofy had before becoming Goofy. Dippy's separate existence in the Wasteland shows that Yen Sid's magic being able to not only house forgotten individual characters in a separate pocket dimension but also previous IDENTITIES that are strong enough. Meaning Goofy would have turned out to be an almost ENTIRELY different character if he kept his original name. Though Dippy is more well known than Oswald by the most diehard Disney fans, the company itself has COMPLETELY buried this piece of information and most people who aren't big cartoon fans would forget about it rather quickly.
Should there be an Alice in Wonderland section, the Gryphon and the Mock Turtle
They HAVE to. They just HAVE to!
will finally make an official appearance.
Tetsuya Nomura is going to copy his neighbor's test and bring in elements of Epic Mickey into future installments of Kingdom Hearts
Looking for more things to add to his Kudzu Plot and going "Why didn't I think of that?" at some of Junction Point's ideas, the Kingdom Hearts series will see the following:
The Blot is only staying in the Wasteland due to a loophole.
The requirement to be in the Wasteland is to be a forgotten character, nobody else knew about the Blot, and Mickey forgot he even did that, so, Yen Sid couldn't remove the Blot, and he wasn't forgotten himself, meaning he can't get in his own creation, meaning that he can't get rid of the Blot because if the Blot isn't remembered, then he can't be destroyed; Mickey being brought into the Wasteland was probably a bad idea for this reason, it means that the Blot will be destroyed because Mickey remembers his mistake, and is going to fix it.
Mr. Toad will be a villain.
Warren mentioned that defunct DisneyLand/World rides will appear in the games. Mr Toad's ride was scrapped without any remorse from Disney, not to mention he did have an animated movie that was also pretty much forgotten. Add the fact that he was really kind of obsessive and insane in the film, and there's perfect villain material.
The Cartoon Wasteland is The Badlands/Keyblade Graveyard.
It makes at least as much sense as any of the other Kingdom Hearts based guesses.
The Spiritual Successor will be Legendary Luxo.
After working with PIXAR Animation, Warren Spector decides to take the concept of The Wasteland to create a Cyber World for PIXAR characters.
The basic premise is that back when CGI Animation was still new, and PIXAR was still creating small shorts, John Lasseter and Ed Catmull had created a kind of Cyber Space called "Render Remanence", to store all of their rejected and outdated ideas and characters. The first of which being Andre and Wally B., Pixar's first animated CGI stars. They become the rulers of this world, but are sore and distasteful at the studio for only being one-shot "test" characters and harbor an intense resentment to Luxo Jr., the company's favored mascot.
Luxo Jr. accidentally enters this world after following his star ball into an old 1993 Pixar Computer. Interested, he finds a locked container entitled "Early Toy Story" and, as usual, he decides to hop on it. Unfortunately, this releases the Complete Monster known as the Black Friday Woody, who is now a jumbled mass of corrupted render software. Luxo. Jr manages to escape, but with Black Friday Woody loose, he quickly devastates Render Remanence.
Years later, Luxo Jr. has forgotten about this and is asleep by a computer, when suddenly a massive wall of corrupted text grabs him, pulls him through the old computer, and into Render Remanence.
The main objective is to befriend Andre and Wally B., RR's first deleted characters. Luxo Jr.'s main weapon in this game is an animated computer mouse he managed to grab before being pulled into the Cyber World. It's capable of Deleting and Restoring any old computer files.
The game's Pre-Final Boss will be Scrapper Mickey .
Ever wondered why Scrapper Mickey was removed from Mickey's play style in the game? Sure, Warren Spector might claim that it's because he "didn't want to mess with Mickey's image", but the real reason is so that he can serve as the pre-climactic boss in the game. Because think about it. The Wasteland is a place for rejected Disney characters, right? Well, Warren Spector created a meta example of this when he opted out to use the Scrapper, thus forcing him into the Wasteland. He might not be the game's final boss (I think that goes to the Phantom Blot), but he will definitely be the pre-climax boss.
The Blot is just like Oswald.
Think about it. When Mickey first created the blot, it was scary, sure, but it didn't do anything malicious to him. Mickey freaked and tried to get rid of it. It brought Mickey into the Wasteland about 80 years later for the Mad Scientist, or at least due to his manipulations. The Blot was rejected by his father, Mickey, just like Oswald was rejected by his father, Walt. The Blot turned his rejection into anger, but could only vent it on the Wasteland. Oswald, on the other hand, fought to protect it as it was all he had left, as opposed to the Blot who had nothing to protect or care for. And as for Oswald, he can't lash out on his own father Walt, so he lashes out at Mickey instead.
Mass Character Guess.
This is the catch-all WMG for character predictions in a hypothetical sequel (whether or not the posters of the above entries want to simply delete theirs and copy/paste them here is up to them)
Kopa
Think about it. He starred in a few comics, before Disney green-lit The Lion King 2 and he was replaced by Kiara. I wouldn't surprise me if was in a similar position to Oswald, having been pushed aside by a sibling.
will appear at some point.
There will be an "Oswald Mode" after completing the game.
BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AWESOME, THAT'S WHY
There will be an ending in which you can redeem the Phantom Blot
He'll be revealed to have had his own feelings of rejection and hatred for his 'father' (that would be Mickey) be manipulated by the Mad Doctor. After he's defeated, the player will have a chance to either blast him away with thinner or use the paint to make him into what Mickey was originally going for in the opening cinematic. The latter turns Blob into a Ridiculously Cute Critter, who immediately sacrifices itself to stop the Mad Doctor from killing Mickey from behind. ...Just a thought.
If there's a sequel, the Wasteland will reflect Disney World.
Sure, it'll need to have four times more content than the first game, but you can't deny the allure of a post-apocalyptic MGM Studios or EPCOT or Animal Kingdom.
If there's a sequel, then there will be nightmare versions of Disney's idol singers and teen stars.
Warren Spector said that he wanted to make a game that would scare the youth of today, just as how the Disney Animated Canon scared his generation when they were kids. And what better way to do that than to take the characters that they love from the Disney Channel and fill them with ten tons of Nightmare Fuel?
The material doesn't have to be just from the present day. Disney's been in the "tween" business since before the word "tween" existed, going all the way back to the The Fifties with Annette Funicello and The Mickey Mouse Club. That show alone has had dozens, if not hundreds, of Mouseketeers in its various runs. Most people probably can't name more than a dozen — and most of them probably come from the latest iteration of the show, which brought us Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, and their ilk. There's bound to be countless forgotten stars hiding away in the Wasteland. Of course, since we're dealing with real people here, they'd have to be No Celebrities Were Harmed versions unless they could get permission from the people and estates involved.
And why stop at The Mickey Mouse Club? Disney's history doesn't end with the death of Uncle Walt. For example, does the name Fiona Phillips have any relevance to you? No? How about Jett Jackson? And those shows made it to air and ran for several seasons! On top of the shows that have been aired and subsequently forgotten, there's probably tons of unused ideas for Disney Kid Coms and animated series that were never broadcast, and are probably gathering dust in the Disney vault. Plus, think about how this can be used for Nightmare Fuel — the perky, optimistic, teenaged characters from a Disney Channel Original Series that hit 65 episodes and ended a few years ago find themselves being sucked out of their normal lives and into the Wasteland as their Fleeting Demographic moves on to the Disney Channel's new hit series. There, these once-normal Disney teens get corrupted by the returned Phantom Blot/Shadow Blot, or whatever new villain appears in the sequel. Only problem is that satirizing the disposability of such shows might be a bit too subversive a subject for a Disney-produced game to tackle.
To close this off, I have just four words: Laugh Track slowed down. <shudders>
The Toontown Online Toontown is part of Wasteland (also compatible with the House of Mouse theory below).
Go to Ostown and look at the sign. You can see where a "T" and "O" were knocked over to the left of "OSTOWN," and the "S" there could be the "N" turned on its side. Also, if you play Toontown Online, then surely you will have noticed that the graphics on this sign are exactly the same as the "TOONTOWN" sign in Toontown Central's playground, excluding the altered letters. Toontown is probably a little big to fit in the Ostown area, but it could be that only Toontown Central is there and all the other neighborhoods are scattered all around Wasteland and accessed via Projector Screens (after all, who knows what lies behind the darkness of the street tunnels?).
The original
 ◊ Phantom Blot exists in Wasteland, but had to go into hiding because of people thinking he's associated with the Shadow Blot.
Mickey didn't see the whole of Wasteland.
As can be seen here, there are dozens of other forgotten characters in Disney history that don't appear in the game, so it stands to reason there were parts of Wasteland where Mickey didn't go (as it was unnecessary to do so), and that's where those characters are. Assuming, of course, they weren't all in Alice's Curious Labyrinth. The projector screens to those areas were taken down for whatever reason.
The classic Donald and Dippy Dawg did live in the wasteland, but were killed in the thinner disaster.
If you talk to the gremlin in Os Town, he says Donald's tugboat sank and when it came up, he wasn't there. This leads me to the theory that Donald and Dippy were riding the tugboat right before the thinner disaster happened and they were 2 of the casualties.
Teirland existed at some point...
But was destroyed somehow. Maybe those crates of dynamite they keep everywhere finally ran out of luck. Maybe the Blot or the Mad Doctor destroyed it. Maybe it was destroyed by thinner. Or, maybe, since Teirland is the least "colorful" and "animated" land, maybe it was destroyed by PAINT, or converted by paint into OsTown.
House of Mouse takes place in the distant future of Wasteland, similar to (and compatible with) the Toontown Online theory above.
This would explain the massive Disney crossover; it takes place after everything related to Disney's animation studios has somehow been forgotten. The announcer who says "On Main Street..." in the show's opening messed up his line and was actually supposed to say "Mean Street." The Disney cartoon creations that happened not to have been made before House of Mouse just, coincidentally, never go to the House of Mouse club, and the CG characters live in a different dimension of Wasteland. Also, the House of Mouse club exists in Wasteland because of the House of Mouse series itself being forgotten in the future.
The events in Epic Mickey don't take place in 2010. They actually take place sometime in the late 20th century.
...and a lot of toons you saw in the game have since regained their hearts and escaped The Wasteland. Horace and Clarabelle will get out in 2001 when House of Mouse first airs, with Oswald following close behind when he returns to Disney in 2006. Heck, if you wanna get really idealistic, the whole damn cast can potentially gain hearts in 2010 just from this game alone.
The projectors tap into the memories or immediate thoughts of the one who jumps through.
The projector stages are the only places in Wasteland completely unaffected by the Shadow Blot, or any Thinner for that matter, which is everywhere otherwise. Most of them are also based on Mickey's shorts, which shouldn't make sense unless all of Wasteland is preparing for Mickey to arrive. Gus is not with Mickey in these stages, only present when Mickey is right by the exit projector (but is unseen, meaning he may already be on the other side — notice that he does not explain things or offer commentary when in such stages). Finally, we have characters like Sherman (the panicking pirate in Tortooga) and Oswald jumping through these projectors without the sort of difficulty Mickey goes through.
The only explanation is that each projector, in their natural state, will manifest a different world for each individual who goes in based in a notable event in his or her life, and the danger level in these projectors is related to the character's level of guilt. The projector stages pertain to the theme of the chapter because Mickey is thinking of that topic, except the gremlin chapter because he just got in Wasteland and is thinking of his legacy. That is, perhaps Sherman has only ever been in one adventure that would be notable enough to be a Disney production, and every projector would display the same stage or two, neither of which is much worse than a short walk because the events in Tortooga were through no fault of his own. Consequently, Oswald feels guilt over Ortensia and his failure to hold back the Blot, so his stages are more dangerous. Mickey gets the most dangerous stages as he progresses through the game because of increasing guilt over his starting the Thinner Disaster. However, some projectors can be tweaked to remain fixed on one stage, such as Oswald's projectors in Mt. Osmore Caverns or the Sleeping Beauty one in the castle through an unknown technique. (I cannot explain "Plutopia", as it's not part of Mickey's memories.)
This means that if the Shadow Blot or any Blotlings jump through a projector, they'll find themselves in a world based on what the Shadow Blot has seen, and Thinner can't even get in because it's nonsentient. In turn, this also means it's entirely possible for Blotlings or even Bloticles to still be present in the projectors, exiting through to plague the Wastelanders once more.
If there will be a sequel, the Mad Doctor will be the villain in one of them.
The Mad Doctor was launched into the sky upon defeat. But what is the sky in Wasteland? Yen Sid's room. Somehow, the Mad Doctor, inadvertently or not, crafted a way out of Wasteland, where he'll be free to scheme and cause havoc in Mickey Mouse's own world.
Oswald doesn't know that Walt Disney lost his contract; he believes that he was outright abandoned.
Consider this dialogue from the game:
Gus: He was the first to become a star... and the first to be forgotten.
Mickey: Forgotten? Why, what happened?
Gus: You happened.
Now, anyone who is familiar with the dispute over Oswald's contract should have had alarm bells going off during this scene. Gus is making it sound like Oswald was forgotten because Mickey was created, which isn't true. Mickey was created because Oswald was lost. Thus, we are to assume that Gus doesn't really know what he's talking about.
While this could usually be Hand Waved as Gus misspeaking, Oswald does the exact same thing whenever he discusses why he was forgotten.
Oswald: Now I really do see why he liked you better.
Erm... better? That makes it sound like Walt had a choice in the matter. Apparently, Oswald isn't entirely sure of what he's talking about either.
The bunny children are rabid Mickey fans.
They aren't really attacking Mickey, they're just tackle hugging him to death.
In the sequel, there will be more playable characters than Mickey and Oswald
Donald (as Maui Mallard, who was also dragged to Wasteland), for instance.
The sequel will have a Bonus Feature to toggle old-school character designs with modern designs.
The Rule Of Cool demands it.
Fanny will appear in the sequel.
She'll be an Anti-Villain in full-on Woman Scorned mode because Oswald chose Ortensia over her.
Scrapper Mickey will be the sequel's villain.
The creepy rat-like version. After all, he wasn't technically used in the first game...which means he should be somewhere in the Wasteland plotting revenge.
Ortensia isn't really the mother of the rabbit children.
They were around in the very first Oswald short, "Poor Papa", before Ortensia was even created. After having children with Fanny the rabbit, Oswald must have lost her somehow and ended up raising the kids with his new wife.
Paint Thinner is essentially The Dip.
Not much of a stretch, is it? The ingredients used to make The Dip are essentially the same as in paint thinner, which is why it's deadly to Toons and harmless to humans. The function is the same, even- it's the only thing that can kill a Toon. And Mickey WAS in the film, so why not?
(Hey, does this mean we can have a cyborg Judge Doom as a boss in the second game?)
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