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- Digimon Adventure
- Digimon Adventure 02
- Digimon Tamers
- Digimon Frontier
- Digimon Data Squad
- Digimon Fusion
- Digimon Adventure Tri
- Digimon Universe: App Monsters
- Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna
- Digimon Adventure: (2020)
- Digimon Ghost Game
- Digimon Adventure 02: The Beginning
- Takeru's emotional maturity and stability play heavy roles in this pairing, especially when he still has PTSD on Angemon's death.
- Very likely implied by the trailer in which for some reason while his face was fully shown Takeru has thin smile on his face but when the profile his lower face shown first like Yamato in contrast his lips shown upturned. There must be something if the more stoic Yamato was shown smiling but Takeru isn't.
- Looks to be confirmed: Tai and Matt have the closest thing to a date seen so far, riding in a ferris wheel.
- Mimi and Meiko have a lot of close moments in the second film too.
- I predict that this love interest will be the Serena to Sora's Misty.
- I predict that this love interest will be Kari, and played for maximum amounts of Squick (both In-Universe and out)).
- I predict that this love interest will be Yoshino Fujieda, raising all sorts of questions.
- I predict that this love interest will be Crystal, raising even more questions than the above one.
- I predict that this love interest will be Dread Dormammu's sister, Umar, because who needs sanity?
- I predict that this love interest will be Rei Saiba.
- NO. TAI IS NOT TAICHI. (For one, Tai is a lot less intelligent. If he was smarter, rather than Piedmon keychaining him, he would have pulled what Taichi did, and wait for him to use Masks Square, and position himself such that Piedmon's homing swords would impale Piedmon. Of course, that's a lot easier when you can biomerge.)
- I predict that this love interest will be Mimi! Hey, I said Incest Subtext, not text.
- Dude, really? If the characters involved canonically know eachother (and have presumably interacted quite a bit offscreen), then it is by definition not a Crack Pairing anymore.
- Another thing: even both Mimi and especially Sora will never live down Taichi's emotional immaturity, which Taichi himself was notorious for, prior to his maturation as an adult. Yamato previously called out Taichi for this throughout the original series.
- I predict that this love interest will be Meiko Mochizuki
- Surprisingly implied at the end of Our Future; Tai and Meiko are implied to have kept in touch occasionally after she moves back to Tottori, and Meiko is much more open and casual with Tai during the conversation shown at the end, whereas he blushes and is very awkward after she addresses him fondly and asks how he's been.
- I predict that this love interest will be the soccer manager from his FC. Meh... the typical shonen endgame where shonen MC hooks up with a tertiary character just like [[Anime/Dragon Ball Son Goku]] and other Shonen Jump characters.
- This one even has certain evidence from supplementary media. February issue of Otomedia Magazine has some interesting text about how digidestinied will put up with St. Valentine's day. Just go and check Taichi's paragraph.
- Seeing as how the majority of the cast are teens, the series seems more oriented towards teens/young adults than the previous entries, and hormones can be pretty crazy to deal with...It'll make most viewers more uncomfortable than anything.
- E-yup...
- Maybe jossed (but she could be bi), she might be jealous that Takeru invited another girl to Yamato's consert. Maybe Hikari just teases Takeru though.
- There's also Hosoda's intrepretations...
- If this wasn't jossed already, it's probably jossed now—Joe mentions that he wants to introduce Gomamon to his girlfriend and he knows that Gomamon has already met Meiko.
- Jossed, but we do have a scene where Koushiro calls out on Mimi, and it's obvious his words have upset her. It seems later on they seem to be on good terms though...Which leads me to...
- Jossed.
- A fairly obvious one, but it had to be said. The first movie has Mimi teasing Sora about whether she's going to pick Tai or Matt, and Sora doesn't give an answer. Presumably she'll eventually pick one and that will trigger her final evolution.
- Oh the gods of Apokolips, why? One, Sora deserves better than to have her character arc revolve around a hackneyed shipping debate. Two, in-universe, there is no competition; Matt is her boyfriend and Tai is fine, believe it or not, with that. Three, the Crest of Love has never focused on romantic love.
- Jossed.
- So far, at least half-jossed—Jou mentions her in "Confession" and apparently intends to introduce her to Gomamon.
- Hopefully, this becomes the outright stated sort of Canon, rather than heavily implied Fridge Horror Canon; it is just about the only way for the epilogue to work. C'mon, imagine it. MaloMyotismon making both the Analog / Digital Worlds his own personal Hell. MaloMyotismon making Dark Digidestined Dragons (through torture and-or brainwashing and-or charismatic persuasion) of the twelve Digidestined and the twelve's Perfect forms. MaloMyotismon making a Hot Consort (through torture and-or brainwashing and-or charismatic persuasion) of Angewomon. Doesn't that have quite a ring to it?
- Again, how can BelialVamdemon still exist if its own soul got destroyed?
- Because the Lotus-Eater Machine stuff happened to Davis before the soul-killing part.
- If Daisuke were still stuck in the Lotus-Eater Machine, then BelialVamdemon would had taken advantage of his crush on Hikari; yet it was clearly not shown Belial didn't and in addition, the fact that Daisuke was the first to realize how to and use the pocket dimension at the manner he did actually implied he has immunity over the Mind Illusion attack. In addition, since Gennai himself said the zone the 02 Crew initially fought BelialVamdemon in is best described as a pocket dimension, then why is it ALL the Digidestined with the original Digivice managed to go to the Digital World once the gates opened? Even Episode 50 explicitly showed Taichi, Sora, Yamato, Joe, and Koushiro go to the Digital World with one of Dark Spore Children, alongside Mimi, who's in New York.
- Since BlackWarGreymon did seal the Odaiba gate to the Digital World, it's implied his data materialized into the "pocket dimension" BelialVamdemon and 02 team initially fought in. In addition, the entire Dark Spore Children arc happened mostly in Odaiba and guaranteed NOT anywhere near the 1999 campsite. In addition, a possessed Oikawa did go to that same pocket dimension IN Odaiba.
- Looking prrreeettty jossed, this one, as the 02 quartet have appeared while getting their asses gicked by Alphamon.
- OBJECTION! How can BelialVamdemon can STILL stay alive in the main timeline when its soul clearly got destroyed?
- Because that and everything else after Davis got blasted by Mental Illusion was just his fantasy world.
- Jossed. The pre-release media states Tri takes place three years after Belial Vamdemon's defeat.
- Because that and everything else after Davis got blasted by Mental Illusion was just his fantasy world.
- Partially jossed since the event of Alphamon obliterating them seems to imply that they will be the core of the story why the world goes into this timeline in the first place.
- Kinda looks confirmed, albeit the 'get worse' part is right off the bat.
- Confirmed, since the Kaiser was actually Gennai all along.
- I agree on the memories messed with aspect of this, but it seems more like an imperfect repression. When Ken showed up they recognized him and asked after the other 02 kids only to forget again as soon as something else demanded their attention.
- A Taicherine (Taichi x Catherine) shipper, of all people, explained the roads that led Taichi to become the UN Ambassador to the Digital World.
- Sorta confirmed; Taichi's new teacher suggests him to get into languages for his future career. Apparently his motive for studying is to meet "his friends that are far away."
- I would prefer the alternative, that Tai not goes back to the piece of headgear he gave away (evidence if any be needed that he wasn't that attached to them) a few years ago and gets to be nearly as badass as Marcus.
- Well, according the the new teaser, Tai having new goggles looks to be confirmed, they're slightly different than his older ones.
- Confirmed. Izzy fashions a new pair for him.
- The silhouettes of Taichi and Hikari were only an excerpt of the eight silhouettes, Toei probably didn't want to reveal the silhouette of Yamato (who was on the other side of Taichi) as quickly because this would decrease the amount of clicks for the digitama (Yamato is the most popular character).
- The promo picture has her in the front; everyone else is behind Taichi. Thanks to the positioning, she has the most space. Maybe it's saying something...
- These are not necessarily evidence. In the poster, she appears alongside his brother, in the same way Takeru appears alongside his brother.
- Why show her silhouette at all? They didn't have to show it in V-Jump, they could just have done what they did at Jump Fiesta, and not shown any new information, but they did. In the poster, sure she appears alongside her brother, but she is literally the only character to be in front of him and take up as much space as he does. Again, why?
- They probably wanted to accelerate the number of clicks (which had been very slow during that time), so they probably showed another silhouette to increase speed. Obviously, they will not reveal the silhouette of Yamato because many expected to see his silhouette when the second digitama had broken. Not to mention, the V-Jump always need to display additional information, because this increases sales
- On her position in the promo picture, maybe they just thought she looked good in that position (along with her brother). Her position isn't proof that she will have great prominence in Tri.
- There's a popular theory that Hikari's and Takeru's kids are siblings.
- Jossed: Kari features about as much as everyone else does.
- Seems to be jossed, given the poster shows the original 8 grown up.
- And it is Jossed. All eight get focus.
Alternatively they could have him do both, which would be nice to see. Chances are out of all the cast hell likely do this with Taichi for name, or it'll be between Taichi and Tentomon for who Koushirou can finally say the words naturally to.
(Emphasis is on humans because he has no problem calling digimon their name without honourifics)
- Which culminates in Patamon digivolving into Devimon, which shatters Takeru's mind.
- Josssed.
- Josssed.
- Jossed. Maki was one of the original Digi Destined that Gennai mentioned at the end of Season 1, along with Daigo.
- Confirmed. Maki was one of the Original Digi Destined and lost her partner in a fight with the Dark Masters a long time ago. Her actions in aiding Gennai in the Reboot was so she could revive her partner. Unfortunately, this causes her Digimon Bakumon to lose all its memories of her
physically: Hikari's ill girl status was because her body cannot react to the abrupt changes of an invading pathogen at the speed a normal human's would. It managed eventually, but took some time.
and emotionally: Her unresolved ships are another direct result of Homeostasis's changes. People get nervous about Relationship Upgrades under normal circumstances. Hikari, an avatar for the embodiment of stability, is almost incapable of going through such a significant change.
And in Coexistence, she finds out that this was done to her. Discovering she was manipulated on such a fundamental level will cause her to have a Break the Cutie plot that leads to Ophanimon Falldown Mode.
- Josssed.
- Most likely jossed, seeing as he's on the poster for the final episode.
- Confirmed, as Omnimon shows up in the first trailer.
- Replace 'Ophanimon' with Magnadramon, and we're golden.
- I WAS GONNA SAY.
- Strange minds think alike, huh? I just always kinda figured that it was meant to be Magnadramon rather than Ophanimon, because Gatomon's line focused on non-human holy creatures as an inversion of Patamon's evoline themes.
- Cats, Dogs and Snowballs are holy?
- Cats and Dogs, yes. Cats were considered sacred in Ancient Egypt, and dogs are important in Chinese mythology. And both Plotmon and Tailmon have Holy Rings, so they're Holy Digimon anyway, regardless of the holiness of the creatures they're based upon.
- Huh; knew the Cat thing, but the Dog thing was news to me. Thanks a bunch.
- I'd rather have Ophanimon and Goddramon.
- Goddramon has never featured in Adventure in any canonical context; Seraphimon is set in stone for Patamon, has for years. Goddramon also doesn't flow logically from Angemon and MagnaAngemon anymore than Angewomon flows from Salamon and Gatomon.
- Whoever who guessed Magnadramon is most likely right, given the recent digivice advertisement showcased their mega evolutions.
- I WAS GONNA SAY.
- This poster◊ shows Vikemon and Rosemon. Assuming it's not baiting us, this can be taken as confirmation for them.
- Now it appears HerculesKabuterimon may be confirmed
- [[spoilers: Ophanimon (falldown mode) confirmes◊]]
- This poster◊ shows Vikemon and Rosemon. Assuming it's not baiting us, this can be taken as confirmation for them.
- Also, VictoryGreymon and ZeedGarurumon might appear.
- What about MarineAngemon? If Vikemon is Gomamon's Mega, what does Armadillomon/Shakkoumon mega-digivolve into?
- If they bother to retcon that (I personally don't believe we'll see him at all), one acceptable option is Cherubimon. He was a natural evolution for Shakkoumon as recently as Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, and would make a cool callback to Hurricane Touchdown if he appears as an enemy.
- Could be SlashAngemon, it was used before in DS: Lost Evolution and fits the theme better.
- Also Vikemon, I'll say, for two reasons: (1) Gomamon's evoline has no influence over Armadillomon's (2) They've reused Megas for years (Rina and V-Tamer Taichi with UlforceVeedramon, Mari and Mimi and Yoshi with Rosemon, Hideto and Nokia with Omnimon plus WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon).
- Right, but never in the same show.
- That's kinda grasping at straws. To reiterate, the idea that no two Digimon can be/evolve into the same species at the same time is in the realm of disproven fanon as much as Gatomon's Tail Ring defining her mega form. The Digidestined fielding two Vikemons would be the final nail in that coffin, not a total reinvention of how everything in Digimon works.
- The argument is not that its impossible for the Digidestined to have 2 Vikemon in universe but that from a writing perspective it makes no sense. From a marketing and writing perspective the whole point of having 3+ distinct evolution stages for all 9+ Digimon is to help distinguish them from each other so there's never any confusion as to who your looking at, for example in an action sequence it would be incredibly confusing for the viewer to have 2 Vikemon at once because unless they're different colors or you make Cody and Jou ride on their partners shoulders at all times you'd have no way to be sure who your looking at in any given cut.
- Potentially jossed: The image art has been released, and from the look of it, Mimi's not having a delinquent phase now if she ever did.
- Definitely jossed: If the video game is anything to go by, Rosemon is Palmon's Mega.
- If the Drama CD from the Blu-Ray set were any indication, Rosemon is Palmon's Mega.
- It's a very good possibility in this Troper's humble opinion. Not only is BantyoLilimon a very recent Digimon that fits the line and personality, but using her as Palmon's "canon" final form would end up the "Rosemon debate" with Lalamon, since she has been more associated with that form during recent years thanks to her having a Burst Mode (which is exclusive to the Savers universe).
- EVERYONE (except T.K.) HAS A BURST MODE! Well sort of: everybody but T.K. has a Super Ultimate.
- TAI: Agumon -> Greymon -> MetalGreymon -> WarGreymon -> VictoryGreymon
- MATT: Gabumon -> Garurumon -> WereGarurumon -> MetalGarurumon -> ZeedGarurumon
- SORA: Biyomon -> Birdramon -> Garudamon -> Hououmon -> Varodurumon
- MIMI: Palmon -> Togemon -> Lillymon -> Rosemon -> Rosemon Burst Mode
- IZZY: Tentomon -> Kabuterimon -> MegaKabuterimon -> HerculesKabuterimon -> TyrantKabuterimon
- JOE: Gomamon -> Ikkakumon -> Zudomon -> Plesiomon -> Aegisdramon
- KARI: Gatomon -> Angewomon -> Ophanimon -> Ophanimon C or Ophanimon Falldown Mode
- Save the actual Burst Mode on this list, none of these have been ascribed any level higher than Mega in any media; further, a Super Ultimate is not the same as an evolved Mega. Lastly, Ophanimon 'Chaos' Mode is not actually extant in any media.
- Actually, in DigimonNext Next, VictoryGreymon and ZeedGarurumon were obtained with "Burst Charge." And Digimon Story: Lost Evolution gives Aegisdramon a level higher than the standard Mega tier.
- Almost certainly jossed; Rosemon has remained Palmon's Mega form for years - unlike with the Magnadramon/Ophanimon mess, there's been no instance of that detail changing.
- Definitely jossed: If the video game is anything to go by, Rosemon is Palmon's Mega.
- Seems to be jossed, if the anime is following the toyline series in this new digivice ad.
- Jossed now that the Decisions cover art shows Mimi with Rosemon and Joe with Vikemon.
- Alternatively, they will only evolve to Champion until they regain their Crests, then the gloves come off.
- Confirmed. Greymon and Garurumon resorted to evolving further after struggling against Alphamon on their first encounter.
- In Cyber-Sleuth video game, it's a Jogress evo of Angewomon + LadyDevimon.
- So? Just because one way to reach that form is by Jogressing, it doesn't rule out the possibility of other ways. 02's ExVeemon becomes Paildramon with or without Stingmon.
- Certain Digimon are Jogress-only until Bandai Namco decides to let them Evolve naturally. In fact, before Digimon Fortune, Millenniumon itself was a Jogress-only of Mugendramon (Machinedramon) and Chimairamon (Chimeramon).
- It will be done by accident while cat fighting with LadyDevimon again.
- So... Omegamon/Omnimon (WarGreymon + MetalGarurumon), Ceresmon (Hououmon + Rosemon), Aegisdramon (HerculesKabuterimon + Plesiomon), and Shakamon (Seraphimon + Magnadramon). Sounding about right?
- Jossed on Ceresmon, Aegisdramon, while both Angewomon and HolyAngemon can evolve into Shakamon on their own.
- I don't see how the Aegisdramon one is jossed; the page explicates Plesiomon as its prevo. Admittedly the HerculesKabuterimon thing is unprecedented but not impossible. About Ceresmon, it was the Closest Thing We Got.
- Aegisdramon is a water-themed mechanical Digimon or at least an aquatic Digimon with metallic coating, while HerakleKabuterimon is a pure biological insect Digimon. As for Ceresmon, its main status is of Plant/Earth and not Holy/Fire, which Hououmon is. Rosemon cares more about its looks over anything else.
- Alternatively, Patamon and Gatomon into Clavis Angemon.
- If Hikari has Ofanimon, then Holy/Magnadramon can still be formed. It has been a jogress any two Great Angels in one official game.
- Alternately, there will be one Omnimon with interchangeable arms.
- This one sounds kinda cool actually.
- Alternately alternately, one Omnimon with two (relatively) normal arms and 8 weapons it can use in various combinations (and combine/partition into a variety of bigger and smaller weapons).
- Well, partially confirmed. Our Future prominently features a new Omnimon form, Merciful Mode, on its poster. It's a fusion of Omnimon with the remaining 6 Mega level partners, and appears as a white and blue Omnimon with angelic wings instead of a cape. Its weapons have also been upgraded, with a new cannon and a katana.
- This one sounds kinda cool actually.
- Like something is going wrong in the Digital World in that the Digimon can't Digivolve to their normal Ultimate levels and instead become Virus Digimon. Tai may even have a Heroic BSoD because SkullGreymon still left a traumatic effect on him.
- In one of the movies Greymon will Dark Digivolve to SkullGreymon again, and then SkullGreymon will Dark Mega Digivolve to a new form.
- Kind of confirmed for the fifth movie poster where it shows, Ophanimon Falldown Mode.
- The Digimon series seems to go in cycles; with Adventure starring kids with Digimon, 02 starring Digimon that can evolve by fusing together, Tamers with kids fusing with their Digimon, and Frontier finally having kids turning into Digimon. Savers followed Adventure's route while Xros Wars followed 02. Then the next step would be...It would give the kids more of an active role in the fights, and calm down all the naysayers who often complained about the Adventure kids only being cheerleaders in the battles.
- This might not be so crazy. The second trailer for Tri has a Freeze-Frame Bonus reference to "One Vision", the battle theme for the last arc of Tamers.
- If this were to happen though I'm not sure if the digimon would retain their original Mega forms or take on a new more humanoid form to accommodate the children (like what happened with Justimon in Tamers).
- Jossed. In Determination, Gomamon and Palmon reached Mega level via shouts of encouragement from Joe and Mimi. No fusion sadly...
- The second part is Jossed, as Meiko did not create Meicoomon, as seen in Confession. However, she didn't exactly become a Chosen Child in the traditional sense either, as she encountered Meicoomon behind her own house and there is no implication she ever had to fight anyone in the Digital World before meeting the other Chosens.
- Hackmon claims to be neither ally or enemy, as he serves Homeostasis.
- Besides the apparent connection with Hackmon and the name similarity. Meicoomon has cross-shaped pupils, a trait that is only shared with the Sistermon line, hinting at a possible connection with that "group"'s lore
- Jossed.
- Confirmed, after the reboot happened.
- Jossed
- Jossed. Tentomon naturally evolved, while Patamon didn't evolve into Perfect/Ultimate in Confession. Patamon later evolved into Seraphimon in "Loss."
- Jossed
There's also a nice meta element to this WMG: since antagonist Digimon in this series haven't spoken, Toei would likely not need to hire extra voice actors for this purpose, which would keep the appearance of the corrupted Digimon a big surprise to those not reading this page.
The basis of this speculation comes from the Mental Qualities and Emotions categorized in Traditional Chinese Medicine following the five elements system.
- Tapirmon can digivolve into Huanglongmon. Tapirmon-Angemon-Tyilinmon-Huanglongmon, Tapirmon-Garurumon-Tyilinmon, or Tapirmon-Reppamon-Tyilinmon.
- At the moment, jossed. Gennai has said that he is not the Gennai the kids knew, as he has been corrupted by Yggdrasill.
- They'll lose.
- Possibly Confirmed as of Confession's ending, where The Digimon Emperor is actually him in disguise, not the real Ken, and that he's planning something with Maki, who somehow can travel to the Digital World and meet up with him.
- Jossed about Piedmon, as Gennai is stated by Hackmon to have been corrupted by Yggdrasill into his biding. Piedmon has not yet made an appearance.
- ... hopefully AND worst case scenario, this WMG involves some Ruler of The Dark Ocean Unaware for Kari.
- Eh, could happen.
- OBJECTION! I counter that with the notion both Illuminati AND Knights of the Round Table each have 13 members AND have England as their respective bases. Seeing how THE Royal Knights use the Knights of the Round Table as their thematic inspiration, it's a wonder why there STILL is no Digimon equivalent of Gwenhwyfar (Guinevere), yet the Digimon franchise already has Digimon named after Mastema (Mastemon), Jesus (Jesmon), and a couple of Greek alphabets (Alphamon, Betamon, Deltamon, Omegamon, for starters).
- PLOT TWIST: The Royal Knights will be the Illuminati as the culmination of their descent in villainy.
- Good one; but it needs a Gwenhwyfar figure that would them down that road. Besides, I easily see Dukemon's chivalry, getting taken advantage of, just to see this happen at all.
- But this time he will be humilliated by the real (new) Big Bad
- I... honestly, don't like this theory. Dagomon need not be a Demon Lord; he's perfectly fine as a non-affliated villain. Making him just another Demon Lord kinda goes against the (Lovecraftian) themes Dagomon and the Dark Ocean embody. And because this is a Running Gag: Dagokari for Canon!
- If Dagomon has to evolve, I think Neptunemon would be a better choice than Leviamon. Neptunemon is also a trident wielding sea god who a penchant for kidnapping women has a basis what the Digimon is based on.
- This is gonna sound a bit far-fetched, but I think that Grandracmon would be a better option. The vampire king carries over more of Dagomon's design elements than Leviamon or Neptunemon; wings, the bands on his arms and legs, the lack of affliation with other groups.
- If Dagomon has to evolve, I think Neptunemon would be a better choice than Leviamon. Neptunemon is also a trident wielding sea god who a penchant for kidnapping women has a basis what the Digimon is based on.
- OBJECTION! It might take a parallel/alternate Adventure universe where LadyDevimon is actually Wizardmon's Perfect (JP)/Ultimate (US) evolution; in one of the games, Wizardmon can Super Evolve to LadyDevimon.
- It wouldn't need to be an AU, since that Wizardmon's Perfect is unknown.
- We already know what Daemon's unhooded form looks like. V-Tamer, remember? Neo Saiba? Arkadimon? Remembering this?
- Tri will be about a tournament or some other competition among teams of tamers. The previews are of a clash between the protagonists and Team X in round three, before they brought out their most powerful monsters, Alphamon Ouryuken and ImperialDramon Paladin Mode but they will also face Team Hard Armor(round one), The D-arcs(round two), The Illegals(round four), DATS(round five), Xros Heart(the semifinals) and the favorites to win the whole thing, Arcadia(final round).
- This Omegamon and Magnamon aren't the Knights. Imperialdramon Paladin Mode isn't a member of the order but its founder. Being a Royal Knight is a position held by one member of the species, not a category applicable for every member of the species.
- Funny you should say that...
- Confirmed in Loss. He is the one behind Gennai's actions. Though he has yet to be seen, his motivations seem to be similar to its Savers incarnation
- Appears to be confirmed as of Determination
- I called how ZeedMillenniummon will be a major player in tri. Also, to support that theory about Zeed Millenniummon, Kimeramon will be the fifth film antagonist.
- Confirmed. Machinedramon and MetalSeadramon return in "Loss" as servants of the evil Gennai.
- Jossed Gennai has been brainwashed by Yggdrasill into serving him.
- We know that Millenniummon produced the Dark Seeds.
Despite all the manipulation behind Ken's back, the action of the Digimon Kaiser and the damage caused by him still fall into Ken's responsibility. He's the only known human who actively enslaved Digimon and he's also responsible to create Kimeramon, a destructive "machine" that could have annihilated the Digital World's population, considering that the Four Souvereigns were still severely weakened by the Dark Towers. And if he didn't have build that many Dark Towers, the Digital World wouldn't be weakened by that extent, and beings like BlackWarGreymon wouldn't be created who destroyed six of the seven Holy Stones. While Oikawa manipulated Ken to do all these things, Oikawa had no direct impact on the Digital World like Ken did (aside from his Heroic Sacrifice in the Grand Finale). And while the Dark Seeds heavily influenced Ken to be the a megalomaniac, it's Ken's own darkness that let him fall into it.
Given that Yggdrasil is known to be a narrow-minded entity, they probably Ken as the worst example of a human being, and even if they did consider Vamdemon's orchestrating the events behind Ken and Oikawa, it's their own darkness that caused those tradegies and Vamdemon merely used the incredible powers and abilties humans were capable of. Ken's D3 was so powerful, it prevented Digimon from evolving naturally, which is also a threat if you consider how Apocalymon was created. Digimon unable to evolve caused many of them to go extinct when time passed on, and Ken's D3 posed a similar threat regarding that and may give birth to another Apocalymon if things have gone worse. Gennai disguising as the Digimon Kaiser may be a tribute to Ken being once the biggest threat to the Digital World.
There's no guarantee that other evil humans like Ken and Oikawa could appear in the future and nobody can tell if they would have the same potential as the Digimon Kaiser. There are a lot more D3s in the world and most of them are the Spore Children who could all potentially become the next Digimon Kaiser as Miyako originally feared.
Yggdrasil sent their minions (likely Alphamon) to take out Ken specifically since he used to be the Kaiser, and Daisuke and the others were merely protecting their friend, but they failed.
Perhaps this is because one of DORUmon's Mega forms (most likely DORUgoramon) was forcibly joined with an Ouryumon by Yggdrassil in order to create Alphamon as an enforcer, inspired by Omegamon being the product of two Megas (the only other Digimon to be created this way in the Adventure canon until Ordinemon). Driving this home is the contrasting color motifs that created each — Omegamon is the result of the orange/gold Greymon line and blue/silver Garurumon line, while this would make Alphamon the result of the violet/white DORUmon line and the yellow/black Ryudamon line.
- Jossed. Everyone survives. However, the title could also reference to how Maki lost her partner Digimon during the flashback scene
- Looks like. In the last portion of Movie 5, Maki gets dragged into the dark ocean.
Keep in mind during the Tamers finale, Cyberdramon's devolution singlehandedly led to the release of Zeed Millenniumon; since Cyberdramon is a Jogress evolution form of Monodramon (Rookie) and ZeedMillennimmon (Super Mega, at the level of Omegamon/Omnimon), it makes sense to claim ZeedMillenniummon might do this.
- I have my doubts; first off nothing in this scenario mentions Ryo, who was kinda a big part of his motivations in Brave Tamer. Second, why would he even let the 99 octet exist if he had the ability/opportunity to negate the 02 quartet? Third, while I agree fully with your placement of Mille, he's a Mega not a Super Ultimate.
- True, but according to the events of Digimon Adventure 02: D-1 Tamers and this Ryo-centric site, it's been implied he started developing a dislike towards the Digimon Adventure Octet. Besides, when Millenniummon itself revealed its intentions to Ryo, it's plausible to lay out the implication the two have been working in unison since then. Given the knowledge Ryo had and still has about the Adventure animeverse, I see the possibilities of happening.
- I still doubt it very much. A dislike of them wouldn't soon translate to Ryo pulling a Face–Heel Turn. Given how Mille's goal was multiversal conquest (which Ryo spent several games opposing) and finally to be his partner (which he attained in a roundabout way), the other stuff is also something I question.
- By locking out the 02 Quartet (which includes Ken), Millenniummon is free to act on its own and unleash the Dark Seed on Ryo, as it originally intended.
- Partially confirmed, as they appear; the rest is still very much in doubt.
- Jossed. The 02 kids have shown up, in scenes that heavily implies 02 to remain unretconned.
- Here's guessing that - Arc 1 will be Belial's Dreams & Reality arc, tossing them into multiple alternate realities. - Arc 2 will revolve around Kari's enigmatic power and the Dark Ocean, retconning her to actually be an Amnesiac God. - Arc 3 will revolve around the the heroes winding down after these psychologically harrowing events.
- Well, let me make an alternate guess: The First Arc will revolve around Tai, and will be in a Wake Up, Go to School & Save the World format; the second will involve Kari, and will be an massive Break the Cutie in the first part (possibly because of Dagomon's interference), followed by she recuperating from this Break the Cutie; and the last one will involve Tai and Kari's relationship between themselves and others, ending up with an massive Incest Subtext.
- May I? my guess is that the First Arc will follow the Wake Up, Go to School & Save the World line, but it will be heavily implicit that everything is part of Belialvamdemon's illusions, Tai is the one who will wise up on this and will break the dream reality (bonus points if it references Neon Genesis Evangelion and Fate/Zero); the Second Arc will revolve about adjusting with reality and facing rogue digimon, as well as their grades suffering for their focus on fighting, any injuries they might gain, the mental toll in the constant fighting and facing human and digimon partners who enjoy the chaos and death they cause and humans who seek to use the power of the Digital World for their own ends, the Arc will end with a human dying at the hands of any of the eight chosen children (Or for high drama and irony, Davis) who will be eventually shunned and rejected by his or her actions; the Third Arc will be about the Dark Ocean and the Daemon Corps, which will be shown to be in the middle of an Evil vs. Evil war and played the strings to get any kind of upper hand against the other, eventually the Chosen Children will have to regain their Crests and power them up to be at the same level as the Crests of Light and Hope.
- Gennai will appear and recruit them for a mission to survey the wider multiverse for potential allies and threats to their universe. During these forays, they will visit the worlds of Tamers, Frontier, Savers, Fusion, Re:Digitize, Cyber Sleuth, parallel versions of these continuities, and others, their partners reaching their canon Perfect and Mega levels (and yes, they're known from the Wonderswan games). Somewhere along the line, the Davis/Rina & Cody/Suzie ships will get Teased and later confirmed.
- It doesn't even have to be Gennai! Remember Bagramon, aka The Clock Shop Man?
- Also, must have V-Tamer, if only just to watch Davis and Taichi do the "Victory Dance! Yay! Yay!" routine.
- Jossed, the annoucement already stated that Taichi is 17 years old in this series, hence it's three years after 02
- (1) Here's guessing that Tri will reveal the Daemon Corps to be vastly larger than shown in 02, with several million Astamon/Cerberumon/LadyDevimon/SkullSatamon/Orochimon/MarineDevimon.
- (2) Here's guessing that Tri will reveal that, in true Lovecraft style, that the Dark Ocean is the seat of a Religion of Evil centered about the worship of Dagomon.
- (3) Here's guessing that the Dark Spores will be revealed as the remnants of Millenniummon's corpse, and that Daemon sought it to Digivolve into Millenniummon itself.
- (4) Here's guessing that Tri will explain the nature of the Crests of Light and Hope and show why they are more powerful than the other Crests.
- Eh, could happen.
- They never lost their D-3's in the first place.
- Jossed.
- Jesmon does appear as Hackmon's Mega Form at the end of Confession.
- Nothing about Gankoomon yet, but Hackmon does appear in the first movie
- 02 isn't getting retconned, but the movie simply takes place on another timeline where 02 events didn't happen / happened differently than in canon. There, everyone can be happy.
- Jossed by the 02 crew appearing.
- Oh my frick, no. Firstly, Daisuke doesn't hold the power of 'Miracle'. The Digimentals aren't keyed to one specific person. If anyone tried to use the D-o-M on their partner, they would be able to. Second, Alphamon's chronokinesis doesn't extend as far as causing a Cosmic Retcon on that scale. He can't even do time travel like Millenniummon or Wisemon can. Thirdly, while it is sorta impressive you still tri, the 02-retcon ship has sailed.
- Bonus points if the AU is [1].
Unless the scene of them being defeated is actually a flashback! While talking to his teacher, Taichi mentions how he's missing some friends he doesn't see anymore. Obviously he's talking about the Digimon, but he could also be talking about Daisuke and the others. Maybe they were trapped in the Digital World over a year ago before the gate was sealed. The season one kids tried to help them, but there was nothing they could do. That's why they're not talking about it, it's too painful. It may also help explain why Taichi has become more cautious in combat. Given that they've effectively lost four members of their group, he's worried about losing anyone else.
Meiko have a kind of digivice that she shouldn't have for timeline reasons, and it's just too coincidential that her Digimon have as prefix her name. Combined with her Moe traits, she screams of your typical Sailor Earth fanfic character. Combined with the "infected Digimon" glitching, maybe the truth is that the world we see now is a Matrix-like illusion, a shadow of the real world, Meiko, Meikoomon, or both, are causing it, with other digimons as minions. And more, Alphamon appearing could be all a Wounded Gazelle Gambit of whoever is causing the illusion to make Meiko get closer to the group now they think that whoever is the antagonist wants Meikoomon.
- What timeline reasons are those? We're never told when Meiko got her digivice or Meikoomon. Not to mention, only the 02 kids and the dark spore kids got D-3s, there's never been any mention of anyone else getting them. I'm not saying you're wrong, but the timeline comment was confusing.
- After the defeat of Apocalymon, the most recent standard-issue Digivices have been D3's, as of 02. Sure, a lot of the International (non-Japanese) DigiDestined have the original 1999 model, the question comes in mind how Meiko got herself the original 1999 model.
- Coexistence revealed Meiko and Meicoomon met roughly two months after the events of Adventure, at least, therefore it takes place between Adventure and 02, so it makes sense for the Digivice to be the original 1999 model.
- After the defeat of Apocalymon, the most recent standard-issue Digivices have been D3's, as of 02. Sure, a lot of the International (non-Japanese) DigiDestined have the original 1999 model, the question comes in mind how Meiko got herself the original 1999 model.
- Furthermore, it'll tie with his Honesty...
- Jossed
- How else would they got information from Gennai in the first place? And it's also implied by Daigo that Gennai has been helping them for a long time now.
- In addition, the ending of Confession reveals that The Digimon Emperor is actually Gennai in disguise, and that he's planning something with Maki, who is somehow able to travel to the Digital World. This supports the fact that some people in the organization, possibly those who are higher-ups or in charge (which also includes Maki) might have been one of the original Digidestined children before Taichi's group.
- Confirmed. Maki and Daigo were two of the five original DigiDestined.
- Jossed. The 'Digimon Kaiser' is actually Gennai, who was corrupted by Yggdrasill. He wants to exterminate the human race, viewing them as enslaving Digimon like animals.
- Jossed hard. The 'Digimon Kaiser' is actually Gennai in disguise, with the real Ken's fate still unknown.
- The five Adventure Megas that are X Antibody-compatible in the franchise:
- Omegamon (and by extension, both WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon)
- HerakleKabuterimon
- Rosemon
- Holydramon
- Jossed. Oh so horribly jossed. This troper feel really sorry for those kids.
- What digivice?
- His own, gotten after being exposed to the hero's digivices' lights back in Digimon Adventure, which allows him to digivolve to SabreLeomon.
- It's not even vaguely indicated, on any occasion, that Leomeow received a Digivice then because of that.
- His own, gotten after being exposed to the hero's digivices' lights back in Digimon Adventure, which allows him to digivolve to SabreLeomon.
In the beginning of Reunion we saw Daisuke's and Ken's Digivices fall when they were defeated. I propose that these two D3's were stolen by the enemy (AKA: Whoever Dark Gennai and Himekawa work for), and were used to progressively encode more and more Digimon into Base 3, thus messing with their moral system (adding "no response" to the usual options of "yes" and "no" would clearly mess with their ability to discern who's friend and who's foe, since their code wasn't written to account for that.) Meanwhile, the 02 Team are probably imprisoned somewhere in some sort of dungeon with their Digimon without their D3's or their Terminals, meaning their Digimon are stuck on rookie level and they can't get out.
Additionally, this means:
In the wake of the reboot, this should have been the breaking point of the Digidestined. The feeling of helplessness while they watched their digimon partners try to kill each other, is the long overdue wake-up slap in the face since Devimon, which was built up over the times where they are completely helpless while they just stood and watched and did nothing but cheered in their younger days. They lost the chance to truly know their partners outside being their wingman, which in turn upon their reunion in the rebooted Digital World the humans never will be able to tell the digimon what were they like in terms of life and goals that don't involve the humans in any way. With the possibility that the Dark Masters have been brought back due to the reboot and the scenarios repeating over again, the humans' frustration reaches their breaking point and the digimon must achieve their own crests and send their power to the humans via the digivices like how the humans did back in Adventure, resulting in a Relationship Upgrade from A Boy and His X to Bash Brothers. Not to mention, once they get their own hands dirty fighting and essentially walking a mile in their partner's shoes it also made them realise "Holy shit, you guys go through this all the time?" and appreciate them even more then ever.
- Jossed. The Yokomon village isn't shown in the movie.
- While I seriously doubt that he's going to be a love interest to Kari, there is going to be a new drama CD featuring him and Gatomon, which would make it likely that he's going to play some role in the new season.
- If he returns, like with Leomon, he'll be killed off, or separated from Gatomon and Kari.
- Semi-confirmed. A vision of him appears briefly in the final movie.
- But probably in a Tear Jerker way that will surpass his death in Tamers; he never get a break, doesn't he?
- His appearance is confirmed by the second trailer. Knowing the Darker and Edgier tone, it's pretty much sold that he'll end up dying.
- Bonus points for references if the new Hinukamuy Turns Red, gives Gankoomon pointed sunglasses or makes him go ORAORAORAORAORAORA! on his opponents.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. There's no indication the group even exists in Adventure thus far.
- Probably the only way we'll ever see an animated Raptor Sparrowmon, Atlur Ballistamon or Jager Dorulumon.
- They would still be romantically compatible if their partners can't do a Fusion Dance; one isn't really contingent on the other. IIRC, the 02 Jogresses were just another way to reach Perfect, not a physical merger, so Aquilamon (dominant) + any of them would make a Silphymon. Also, Wormmon's a larva not a bee.
- What is it with you and shooting down other people's guesses with little more than a "not necessarily", as if we weren't all aware that it's just speculation? You don't know if it's possible or not. And Wormmon would be Stingmon at the time the jogress occurs, who is definitely a bee.
- Partially jossed. In the original Japanese version, Gennai explicitly said "Jogress is not needed anymore", after he returned Tailmon's Holy Ring. In addition, he did use it as basis for the 02 Team's Jogress Shinka. In addition, Omegamon's Jogress was from a different method.
- TV-show Jogress Digimon like Paildramon, Silphymon, and Shakkoumon can be Super Evolution forms, as per card game and games nowadays.
- The fox Digimon will evolve into Alphamon.
- The mysterious girl is a fallen DigiDestined.
- The girl is being manipulated by the Big Bad.
- Isn't Alphamon already a part of one of Dorumon's evolutionary lines?
- Yes, but that doesn't rule out Alphamon having a different backwards evoline.
- Won't have a major role in the plot, other than as a digidestined gone bad.
- She will start of as a rookie learning how to use her Digimon but over the course of the films, she will go mad with power and become a major threat like that kid from "Chronicle". Apex predator speech and all. This will show that while some may get a mon, they will not always do it for the righteous cause.
- Her digimon partner's evolution line will be a dark counterpart to Tailmon's, possibly Jogressing with Angewomon to form Mastemon.
- These movies aim for an older audience so it's probably guaranteed we'll see things like destruction and death shown. Since none of the kids can die due to the epilogue, then the next best thing will be to sacrifice the new characters introduced in these movies. In such horrible ways that it'll leave the other kids scarred.
- From what we're guessing, the epilogue is the one that's getting discontinued and judging from what happened to those poor 02 kids, this might get jossed.
- After the success of Xros Wars and that One Vision easter egg in the trailer don't be surprised to see Tri referencing the other Digimon seasons. Perhaps characters like Takato or Koji can even appear in small cameos, suggesting for a full on all seasons crossover story later on. (Hey, a fan can dream)
- If it happens, here's my line-up:
- Taichi Yagami and Zeromaru
- Taichi is an alternate version of Tai, who was the main protagonist of V-Tamer. His partner, an UlforceVeedramon Future Mode, is one of two main partners in manga or anime to canonically get Ultra (US)/Super Ultimate (JA), the other one being Susanoomon from Frontier.
- ROLE: Strategist
- Ryo Akiyama and Monodramon
- Ryo is The Tamer, the one who saved the universe from Millenniummon three times. Originally from the Adventure continuity, he moved to the Tamers continuity at the end of Brave Tamer. He holds a grudge against the 99 crew for apparently staging a tournament they knew he would win in order to train him against Millenniummon.
- ROLE: The guy who makes sense of the [2]. Also the second most experienced fighter there, after Taichi.
- Mikey Kudo and Shoutmon
- For the simple reason for him to
- ROLE: Make badass Digi Fuse forms from their partners.
- Sayo and Dianamon
- She showed up in Cyber Sleuth. Why not here? She is the one who saved the universe from Exo Grimmon.
- Taichi Yagami and Zeromaru
- Arukenimon and Mummymon are likely the only Digimon who didn't get restored by the reboot, as they were not part of the original system, being artificial Digimon made by Oikawa. Even the likes of Black Wargreymon could still be brought back as his data already existed in the digital world (it was just whatever material Ken used the make all those control spires), but Arukenimon and Mummymon were made partially with Oikawa's own DNA so a part of them exists completely outside of the digital framework.
- Why would a bunch of already-Mega knights need some stuff whose primary purpose is being evolutionary meal tickets? Also, what's this about a 'founder of the Digidestined'?
- They may have inverted that statement and meant 'the founder of the Royal Knights is partnered to two of the Digidestined.'
- Jossed. Also, Kindness, so 14.
- If this is true, it's very likely the WMG about 02 ending becomes true.
- Pretty much a given, considering that every new season has a Broken Base in Digimon
- For a series that is (supposedly) airing in April (Spring 2015), Tri has very little information at the moment, and it doesn't even have a trailer or a (final) release date. Tri is, most likely, about to be delayed, maybe to the Summer season (August 1st, if they want to be symbolic)
- Eh, doubtful. Willis was a deviation from the norm, and look how well that turned out.
- If it does happen though, give Tai a Veemon with the UlforceVeedramon line to parallel Taichi.
- The V-Tamer Tai's Veedramon evolved from an Agumon, not from a Veemon.
- Jossed. They're in Tri to an extent. While there's some elements of 02, for the most part, they're mostly in the background. In a way, while this quote is right in that we're enjoying things that aren't 02, 02 is not retconned in the slightest.
- The opening monologue about the Demiurge throws some meat on this theory. Why are the 02 cast gone? Because the fanbase wanted to retcon 02? Who is Meiko? A Self-Insert.
To elaborate she allowed this virus to happen because it would drag Alphamon and his brethren to our world to stop it. This will lead to epic collateral damage and the public to turn against Digimon. To rub further salt in the wound she brainwashed the 02 kids to serve as scapegoats for the disaster. 'We are the chosen children! We control these beasts! Their will is our will! For years we have hidden among you, waiting to strike, and now it is time! BOW DOWN MANKIND! FOR WE ARE THE NEW GODS!' With public opinion believing both the mons and their kids to be a threat, governments will be more inclined to enforce new laws to restrict them. Or even try to eliminate one or both for "great justice" Maki's reasoning for doing this is that she believes in what horrors can come the chosen children and the Digital World and has decided the only action to stop an "inevitable apocalyptic outcome" is to do this.
- With the Confession trailers and poster implying that Patamon may not exceed his HolyAngemon form in that film, leaving HerculesKabuterimon as the only new Ultimate level, plus needing to resolve Meiko's origin and story, Toei may opt to slow down the pacing of new evolutions. Hence there may not be enough time to give the 02 noobs their own films tying their loose ends. As a result, there will be a shorter series of films after tri. (call it 3.02, pronounced "tri point zero two"?) that give them their proper chances to be heroes alongside Takeru and Hikari while the rest of the Adventure cast are in college.
- So far, after Confession it does appear the films are slowing down character development: Patamon never evolved farther than Angemon in that film, and Loss again introduces only one new Mega level Digimon. This leaves Takeru, Hikari, and Meiko for the last two films, which leaves little room for the 02 noobs to have any prominent development.
- This Troper has to backtrack a little bit—Seraphimon has shown up in a Loss trailer and Holydramon has been teased in merchandise tying into the film despite neither appearing on the poster. Whether either partner reaches this level as a direct result of events in the film is unknown.
- Update, 2/9/2018: Holydramon has officially appeared in a trailer for Our Future, but neither her nor Seraphimon have appeared in a tri. poster. Conveniently, this means of all eight of the partner Digimon from Adventure, Patamon and Gatomon are the only two such that their "good" Mega level forms do not appear on any tri. posters (accounting for Ophanimon Falldown Mode appearing on the Symbiosis poster).
- So far, after Confession it does appear the films are slowing down character development: Patamon never evolved farther than Angemon in that film, and Loss again introduces only one new Mega level Digimon. This leaves Takeru, Hikari, and Meiko for the last two films, which leaves little room for the 02 noobs to have any prominent development.
- Confirmed(?) with how plotlines were left unresolved at the end of the sixth movie, the final teasing words of Evil Gennai and the beeping of a digivice in the post credits all points towards another Adventures series due to how sequel baity they are.
- Although it would depend if Toei decides it will be worth it after all the backlash the movies have gotten.
- Jossed. He's still Alphamon.
- Jossed, although that was Homeostasis plan all along.
And yes, this would imply that the Digimon never end up regaining their memories from before the reboot, at least not really. This, however, would tie in very nicely with the new series' theme of growing up without abandoning the past: Terrible things happen, and you will lose things or maybe even memories dear to you, but that doesn't keep you from still holding on to what was important to you in a new way.
One of the biggest Elephant in the Room if not the biggest in the Mons genre has is how the medium as always been human-focused. The characters that always have to go through their inner struggle have always been the humans while their digimon partners evolve accordingly to their epiphanies and realisations while the very idea that the digimon are the ones to go through the same process while the humans change form has always been considered bad fanfiction and childish as it was thought it could only be one side or the other. That very way of thinking denies the digimon partners themselves of the possibility of being more than just the human's wingman essentially becoming one-dimensional characters while the other side becomes fleshed out characters and on a meta level resulting in Strictly Formula. The big problem is that we never considered that the very idea of a partner has always meant to be a mutual thing, one side shouldn't suffer in terms of characterization for the other one's sake and both human and digimon alike can be fleshed-out characters.
The automatic assumption in the email about overcoming inner darkness applying only to the humans is already a sign about that the Digidestined flopped big time as they immediately assumed that the character arcs are theirs alone and not the digimon's problem. Their inner darkness is not just their crests turning against them but also their very own subconscious hubris to be the center of everything else to replace physical power. For example, Father thinking that he is perfect by removing his sins while ignoring the real answer in plain sight due to his own inflated ego.
So when the reboot happened, it's pretty much telling them: "Don't get your pants in a knot, you will get your precious mega level digimon/wingman/world-saving-weapon back, isn't that what you always cared about? It's not like they ever had a life outside of you anyway. You never bothered asking them about it. The first thing you asked them after they saved you is to ask whether they well they can fight and then throw them into a sub-space like a weapon storage box. Did you ever asked their opinions on important matters and how did their personal lives are like in their world?"
- Unlikely given that Digimon is and has always been about the bond between Digidestined and Digimon. There's no catching Digimon, no shoving them in a subspace container and no To Be a Master plot to be found. On top of that Digivolution works through emotional bonds and as Dark Digivolutions like SkullGreymon, Megidramon and ShineGreymon Ruin Mode proved, using negative emotions and not caring for your Digimon's feelings in the matter can be a very very bad thing. So no, the Reboot event isn't very likely to be a Take That! to the Mons Genre because Digimon runs on The Power of Friendship between Digimon and Human and not a Master/Servant dynamic. The fact that Tai and the other Digidestined consider their partners their friends and are heartbroken by The reset taking away their memories of their adventures proves that they think of their Digimon partners as more than just weapons. This whole WMG honestly just feels mean spirited and cynical without a thought for the Digimon series narrative as a whole.
- The person who typed the above WMG here. I never realised I had been ripping on The Power of Friendship when I first typed out the WMG (especially on the last paragraph). I am truly sorry. I am actually one of it's biggest advocates. When I initially meant with the reboot happening is a Take That!, when was thinking about how the characterisation of the digimon was handled throughout the franchise, I realised that the digimon partners were never written as well as their human partners. When I first saw the reboot, I cried like a bitch. All I wanted was for the digimon partners to be as well written as their human partners. One example, was when Tai and Yamato were fighting over collateral damage, we never saw Agumon and Gabumon's opinion on the issue which should technically be more important since they are the ones actually causing the damage. When these iconic character-driven moments throughout the series happened, I saw only the humans go through these moments, the digimon partners only reacted accordingly to their emotional state. I don't want these digimon to just be one-dimensional wingmen, where their entire lives revolve around the Digidestined. Sometimes, I just want the humans to ask what their digimon friends want to do instead, what are their interests and hobbies, surely they have lives outside being their partner, right? What I had in mind when I typed the WMG was the statement "the digimons' personalities is so tied to the humans' that they literally have nothing of interest that doesn't involve them in any way, so I reset their world, memories and characterisation, not that they had much on the last one compared to their human partners in order for them to have a genuine life outside you guys". It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time, I never intended for it to give the wrong message...
Just doing some logical deduction here, with all of the original 8 unlocking their Mega-levels one after another, this would leave Iori and Miyako as the only ones with their Digimon stuck on Champion, which would render them woefully useless in combat. As Hawkmon and Armadillomon don't have any natural Ultras (at least none that don't overlap with the evolutionary lines of the original 8; Hawkmon's Ultra is Garudamon), I see them either Jogressing together or the movies forfeiting Seraphimon and Orphanimon in favor of Jogress Megas of Patamon+Armadillomon and Gatomon+Hawkmon as the only way to keep these two characters from feeling tagged on when it is time for the 02 Kids to return to the story after all the hinting done so far. If Hawkmon and Armadillomon Jogress together (which is my number 1 guess who what's gonna happen right now), I reckon their joint form will be a new Digimon based on an armored Griffin in appearance.
- Well as it stands there does exist a Jogross of Ankylomon and Aquillamon which for some reason is Okuwamon (look it up) imagine it, Okuwamon goes Mega that's right, Grand Kuwagamon. The two digi-destined who probably respect Izzy the most get his Mega's arch-nemesis...it ain't happening but still funny to imagine
- There's a couple of things that need to be brought up here, I think. (1), Hawkmon and Armadillomon have 'natural' (individually allocated) Perfect forms within the fiction; Silphymon and Shakkoumon. Regardless of whether that's an divisive fact, it remains the case. (2), Jogress Evolution is most heavily indicated/presented as just being optional evolutionary support in various bits of Adventure-oriented publications, not the more traditional form of fusion, so the answer to 'what would Hawkmon and Armadillomon make if they Jogressed' is already known by extrapolation - Aquilamon (Hawkmon + Armadillomon) or Ankylomon (reverse order).
- The show itself always treated Jogress as straight-up Fusion. The episode after the first Jogress Evolution happened even features Hikari speculating on the different "combination Digimon" possible with Jogress, as well as Chibimon and Minomon explaining how their minds merged, rather than one of them being relegated to the "co-pilot"-seat. Additionally, all the Jogress Evolutions shown in 02 and even Omegamon (if you include it) clearly take strong visual cues from BOTH of their components (well, maybe Shakkoumon is an exception, but what the hell even is Shakkoumon.) (Don't answer that, I KNOW it's based on an Emishi deity.) So regardless of what "Adventure-based" virtual pets and video games say and some publications say, the fact remains that within the canon of the show itself, Jogress is clearly treated as Fusion, and it's highly unlikely that these specific Digimon would reach those specific forms in the show if left to evolve without their Jogress partners.
- One, Jogress being fusion and Jogress being optional evolutionary support isn't mutually exclusive. Two, what Hikari (a character within the narrative, with limited information available to her) imagines doesn't necessarily reflect the actual workings of the evolution method within the setting; no informed authority ever explicates either way of working here. Three, which is because they're designed to look this way by the creative team, which doesn't equate to the materials actively having some of their body-parts combined within the fiction; whenever *that* happened, the Digimon were specifically *not* Jogress products (Omegamon, Kimeramon), which the narrative went out of its way to say for Omegamon. Four, the game I'm citing is set within the anime continuity (as it's what introduces Ken and sets him on the course to his power-trip) and acknowledged by the anime via flashback, and it directly presents the 'Angemon can Jogress to MagnaAngemon with Ankylomon' evolution within its narrative rather than a game mechanic.
- Jogress can produce a Digimon that looks like a perfect half-and-half fusion, a stronger form of just one component, something totally unexpected, or anything in between. The way I see it, certain forms are probably more likely if achieved via Jogress, but evolution in Digimon is flexible enough that it's usually not absolutely necessary (i.e. Ankylomon has a higher likelihood of evolving into the holy Shakkoumon than he does of becoming something else if he Jogresses with a holy Digimon, but it's still very possible for him to get that form on his own). Besides, even ignoring Shakkoumon, the fusions aren't as clear-cut design-wise as people make them out to be. For instance, sure, Silphymon looks like Tailmon if you start from the premise that it's a Tailmon + Aquilamon fusion, but the only design element that's 'obviously' directly lifted from Tail's appearance is the ears - nothing else would tell me definitely that she's involved in that form if I didn't already know that.
- The show itself always treated Jogress as straight-up Fusion. The episode after the first Jogress Evolution happened even features Hikari speculating on the different "combination Digimon" possible with Jogress, as well as Chibimon and Minomon explaining how their minds merged, rather than one of them being relegated to the "co-pilot"-seat. Additionally, all the Jogress Evolutions shown in 02 and even Omegamon (if you include it) clearly take strong visual cues from BOTH of their components (well, maybe Shakkoumon is an exception, but what the hell even is Shakkoumon.) (Don't answer that, I KNOW it's based on an Emishi deity.) So regardless of what "Adventure-based" virtual pets and video games say and some publications say, the fact remains that within the canon of the show itself, Jogress is clearly treated as Fusion, and it's highly unlikely that these specific Digimon would reach those specific forms in the show if left to evolve without their Jogress partners.
- Jossed. While Homeostasis apparently takes a level in Jerkass and betrays the group, she actually disagrees and tries to break free from the possession at one point. Also, what exactly triggers the corruption is a Break the Cutie moment during the climax of Coexistence.