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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 10:57:28 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by Knight9910 on Jul 15th 2013 at 1:00:39 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Thepenguinking2 The Zangoose nobody likes Since: May, 2014
The Zangoose nobody likes
Sep 4th 2017 at 1:38:11 AM •••

So, if this is IUEO, why is it considered a YMMV trope?

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Sakubara Since: Jul, 2015
Jul 11th 2018 at 5:36:29 AM •••

TV Tropes is confusing like that

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Sakubara Imperial Court Mage Since: Jul, 2015
Imperial Court Mage
Jul 23rd 2016 at 3:20:21 PM •••

Am I the only one who realizes how most of the Web Originals folder are out of universe examples and are the people in question's actual opinons? Does that count?

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LeithSol Myself Since: Jul, 2011
Myself
May 18th 2015 at 4:23:58 PM •••

Is there a page for people that love a work but hate the fans that surround it?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
May 18th 2015 at 10:48:07 PM •••

Nope. It's this page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ana Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 15th 2010 at 11:27:16 AM •••

Pulled: * As noted in the page quote above, Spoony seems to do this every time he comes near Final Fantasy games and JRPGs in general. You are gay, very gay, if you do not see things as he does. And if you don't hate JRPGs, it's because you're a yaoi fangirl. And if you liked Eyes on Me, you're not worthy of being a man because even women are better than you. No comment on where that places women who liked Eyes on Me (yaoi fangirls that like to listen to a song about heterosexual romance?)

1. Redundant, there already is a TSE example. 2. Wrong. He is a fan of older Final Fantasy titles and admitted liking other JRPGs as well, especially Mega Ten 3. The Eyes on Me rant falls square under Rule of Funny, see the video's commentary.

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CyberTiger88 Since: Jul, 2010
Jul 15th 2010 at 4:15:26 AM •••

Honestly,if I'm not already a fan of the Final Fantasy series, it will only take me reading a message board where people are "discussing" over whether or not Final Fantasy 7 is overrated for 2 Min. for me to NEVER become one.

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SiRenfield Since: Jun, 2014
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 15th 2014 at 6:23:28 PM •••

... why did you reply to a post from four years ago?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Oct 16th 2014 at 2:10:27 AM •••

Discussion pages' timestamps aren't very visible, apparently.

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EddySMcGee Since: Aug, 2012
Aug 24th 2012 at 5:58:07 PM •••

Where's the YMMV Tab for this trope? We need Out-Universe examples!

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Lopiny Since: May, 2011
Aug 24th 2012 at 6:00:56 PM •••

Not really. Personally, I don't want a big flamewar on the wiki pages.

Oh, the thread? Don't worry, it's just dead.
Komodin Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 24th 2012 at 6:14:20 PM •••

No, we do not need "out-of-universe" examples. We got rid of them for a reason...

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StarSword Since: Sep, 2011
Mar 2nd 2014 at 2:56:02 PM •••

YMMV pages for tropes are against wiki policy.

IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 22nd 2014 at 2:21:55 PM •••

No, they are not. Your Mileage May Vary is for audience reactions, not tropes. We have two pages explaining that.

I have to question though, if we are only using "in universe" examples then why bother with the Your Mileage May Vary tab? None of the examples are free for you to disagree with because...well it speaks for itself.

Ron Killings had an angle where he basically antagonized anyone he perceived to be a fan of John Cena, blaming them for conspiring to hold him back. There is no mileage variance there. R-truth was a fan hater, as he said so himself on screen.

Similarly, many people here are fans enough of reviewers to give them trope pages. That Guy With The Glasses has at least one guy who chastises fans of Michael Bay on his video's entrance. Supposing that is just his "character" and not how he feels in real life, it does not change the fact his character feels that way. You can't say it is not part of the work and just something the audience may think, like Designated Protagonist Syndrome or Rooting for the Empire.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 22nd 2014 at 2:58:11 PM •••

Not sure what you are contesting...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
Apr 24th 2014 at 12:15:49 PM •••

Why it is still has the Your Mileage May Vary if it is only taking examples your mileage cannot vary about. I mean, your opinion can but you cannot argue any of these are or are not fan haters.

That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 24th 2014 at 1:24:40 PM •••

Because the wicks have not been cleaned. It's a persistent problem with the In Universe Examples Only tag that it doesn't have clarity whether it applies to wicks or not - the IUEO page says yes, decisions leading to something being made IUEO frequently don't.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
BobTheBard Since: Aug, 2010
Jul 3rd 2012 at 8:16:57 PM •••

Would this trope apply to someone who is either neutral or even positive about the work itself, but holds a disrespect or hatred for the fanbase alone? As an example, I know a few video gamers who enjoy Blizzard games like Starcraft II and Diablo III but hate Blizzard fans that consider these games unrivaled works of genius and I'm curious if this would fall into this trope, as the description implies a hatred for the work itself as well.

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TheAlbinoPrimid Since: Nov, 2009
Feb 6th 2013 at 6:45:21 AM •••

Yes. I made a note on the page itself about this, and when I'm not low on time I'll probably edit the page further (or figure out how to put it in the Trope Repair Shop, one of the two), but I'll just go ahead and put my reasoning here; it's a reaction to a fandom, not a work. It's perfectly possible to think a work is okay or even great and still think that the fandom is a pack of apes. Usually, if they're a Fan Hater they're part of the Hatedom, but it's not a requirement.

If a majority agree, does it make it right? If a murderer is acquitted by the masses, is their crime vindicated?
BBally Since: Oct, 2011
Oct 15th 2011 at 2:37:19 PM •••

Why did my Superman example get deleted? I thought it fit quite well with this trope.

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DragonQuestZ Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 15th 2011 at 2:44:14 PM •••

Look up what In-Universe means.

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