Yubi yubi!
I thought Legends was gonna have its own character page? Why'd they all get dumped here?
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Legends should really have its own page, the npc page was already crowded before, but considering Hisui's residents are more fleshed out and have more tropes that are only going to add to the list, it's impractical to have them all on the same page.
I fourth it, they arguably deserve their own page more than the Aether Foundation did, being separated from other side characters not only by the game they are in but by potentially centuries of time. Do we need permission to make one?
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Shocking Gun!
While I don't really mind the speculation about who in Hisui is who's ancestor, Beni is getting some mixed messages. This page pegs him as being Wally's ancestor (similar hairstyle in his ninja garb, having Gardevoir and Gallade), but Unova Gym Leader page and the trivia page for Legends has him as being the ancestor to the Striaton Gym triplets (similar occupation, him being a ninja being awfully similar to the Shadow Triad). I've also seen some pushing him being an ancestor to Aaron. I think some decision should be had to clean up conflicting info.
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While there's more evidence pointing towards him being Wally's ancestor (the hair color and pokemon choice), I feel like Beni is nowhere near as clear-cut as some of the other ones. Should probably remove the speculation for him.
"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia
The connection to Wally is the strongest, especially since the Striaton Triplets aren't actually the Shadow Triad. The only thing he has in common with Aaron is hair color. (EDIT: Also in favor of Wally 'Beni' sounds like 'Benny', which is a nickname for a longer name like 'Wally')
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The Shadow Triad thing is sort of a potential Ascended Fanon considering how many people thought that the triplets were the Shadow Triad (especially considering the Red Herring Adventures manga had). The fact that any of them is possible is the most annoying thing, and I am not sure if we will get an official answer to it.
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Do we really need to add Dragon Tamer to characters who simply have a Dragon on a otherwise diverse team? Seems superfluous.
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They're training a Dragon-type, so it counts as an example of the trope even if they're not training dragons exclusively.
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Lillie = Rei Ayanami Expy? It was accepted for quite a while being almost 2 months since the games release but it just got deleted because her hair is a different color than Rei. As far as I am aware you don't need everything to pass as a Rei Ayanami Expy just mostly everything and she mostly does fit the bill of one. Also while she's not emotionless she shows very little at the start of the game so can I change it back?
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What? No. Honestly the only similarities I can see is that she has a relationship with the Big Bad and she's got a Dark and Troubled Past... which is hilariously vague.
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MagBas
Youngster Tristan's name is the same in the Japanese version? If not, someone knows his original name?
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After some research, i discovered his name is Tarou.
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Has it been confirmed in-game that the Mohn in Poké Pelago is the same Mohn who was the president of Aether Foundation before going missing? Is it really okay to write it as if it's confirmed?
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No, it's never straight up confirmed, but it's pretty obvious and heavily implied.
Quick question of opinion regarding a scene in Sun and Moon:
Does the scene where the Protagonist and Lillie take shelter in the cave on Exeggutor Island strike anyone else as an Aborted Declaration of Love on Lillie's part?
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I have an issue with Zinnia's Jerkass Has a Point entry. She never actually proves her statement about the Alternate Universe is true and relies on a nostalgia-based Player Punch to get the player to sympathize with her.
Edited by 70.209.203.212 If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with? Hide / Show Replies
Well if it weren't for her, the player wouldn't have destroyed the impending doom that was the meteor.
Since there's been something of an edit war going on regarding Zinnia, I'm surprised I didn't see any discussion going on here.
My understanding, based on watching the Delta Episode several times, was that Zinnia chose the player to take her place as Loremaster after she took her "trip into space", and that she intended to die fulfilling her duty to save the world. This is based on the remarks made by the leader of the Draconids, Zinnia's speeches in the Mossdeep Space Center and on the roof of the Sky Pillar, and the incantation she uses to summon Rayquaza, which explicitly states "my life as well I offer." Her response to Rayquaza reacting to the player and not her was surprise, meaning she didn't take not being chosen into account, further evidenced by her Heroic BSoD when Rayquaza failed to Mega Evolve and her statement after the player captures it. As far as Death Seeker goes, her speech on top of the Sky Pillar makes it fairly explicit that she wanted to die to be reunited with Aster, and if that doesn't make her a death seeker, then what does it make her? Also, she qualifies as a Type A (Depressed) Stepford Smiler since, as her conversation on the top of the Sky Pillar reveals, she is far more melancholy over the loss of the original Aster than her cheerful facade indicates.
Tropes can be implicit, and the implication that the human Aster was Zinnia's daughter comes from her use of term of endearment such as "dear", from her outright calling Aster the Whismur her daughter in Team Magma/Aqua's base, and from her speech on top of the Sky Pillar. Regardless, I also don't see how Aster the Whismur isn't a Replacement Goldfish since the Laconic for that trope is "Character adopts/creates a replacement for a lost loved one." That fits Zinnia's treatment of Whismur!Aster to a T, even if human Aster wasn't her daughter.
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It's interesting, as I was apparently edit banned just for stating facts, yet Kaxrida kept changing it.
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I PM'd Kaxrida and they said they asked a couple of friends who agreed that Zinnia didn't qualify as a Death Seeker for the reasons stated in the ATT. In any case, at least one moderator agrees with Kaxrida, which is why you were edit-banned. I made an Alternate Character Interpretation entry on the Ruby/Sapphire YMMV page.
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It wasn't an admin, it was a moderator (me), and it was not because I agreed with anybody on the material but because demongodofchaos2 was edit warring about it. There is no excuse for edit warring, bad example writeups and rude edit reasons at all, regardless of what "facts" say.
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I see. I don't think my example write-ups were bad, since I explained why (in my opinion) Zinnia qualifies for those tropes based on the evidence I outlined in my original post up above, but I still got threatened with being edit-banned. IMO, the moment it seemed like an edit war was about to start the topic should have been brought here for civil discussion, but unfortunately that didn't happen.
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Signature Move has been misused on these pages. I've replaced them with Weapon Of Choice since that is the idea behind the original entries.
Would Professor Burrnet of Dream Radar count for this page? I can think of a few tropes.
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Sure. Does she have any official artwork to use as the picture?
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Re cut request: I've declined it as there are far too many inbounds. Please redirect or disambiguate instead, thanks.
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