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openUncredited Voice Roles
After a long, exhaustive search, I could not find any voice actors who're credited for their roles to some characters in Characters.Sponge Bob Square Pants Video Game Characters. So what should I do here? Should I list those characters as "uncredited roles" or should I leave them blank?
openMove to "Manga" page type and rename. Anime
Youkai Shoujo Monsuga has been a sandbox article for four years now, and in my opinion it's long overdue to be moved to a proper page type. Furthermore, it seems the English title is Yokai Girls, so it should be moved to Yokai Girls.
Thoughts on this?
openWhat Is a Sandbox?
I've seen people talking about having a "sandbox" and embarrassingly, I can't figure out exactly what that means.
EDIT: It's been brought to my attention that there's a thread revolving around sandboxes, but I'm wondering about its function as a namespace.
Edited by CyokieRevottopenEdit War Over a Too-Early Broken Base Videogame
YMMV.Paper Mario The Origami King
Tropemaster 849 has added a Broken Base entry regarding the combat of Paper Mario: The Origami King, a game that was released in mid-July of 2020 and still has yet to reach the six month threshold; initially added by them last night, then removed by yours truly, then reinstated by them today.
openFollow In My Footsteps Aversions
Does Follow in My Footsteps really need all those "averted" entries in the Real Life folder?
openWhere should wikipedia images link to?
When a trope's image source is The Other Wiki, should the embedded image link lead to the site's TVT page or to the wiki article the image is from?
EDIT: Never mind. I thought there was inconsistency in the links, but it looks like all of them actually lead to Wiki.Wikipedia. This is consistent with broader image sourcing guidelines.
Edited by joanofdirtopen"low level advantage" in real life
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LowLevelAdvantage
Could this trope have a "Real Life" section, or would that be unfitting? Examples, something like:
- When Napoleon started to lead French armies after the Revolution, only a general and not a monarch, his enemies were crushed thanks to superior tactics and logistics, leading to spectacular victories like the italian campaign. However, as time passed, Napoleon became emperor and enlarged France's position in Europe, but his defeated enemies learnt his tricks and ultimately coalition after coalition managed to defeat him.
- Germany started WW 2 having superior tactics, morale and training that granted field victories even if German forces weren't really materially superior (both in technology and in numbers) to the Allies. However, when Germany started to field its most advanced weapons like jet fighters, rockets, heavy tanks, first assault rifles, electric submarines, it couldn't anymore face the combined forces of its enemies that simply outgrow Germany's industrial production and manpower.
Edited by Connacht89open No Title
I found Lurker just randomly searching as is my wont on this wiki. This is definitely a thing as evidenced by anyone who spends anytime on a forum, but it has only two examples. Using archive it has been on this wiki since 2007. Do I just cutlist it? Or do I take it to the needs more examples page?
open Confusion over the definition of a Brick Joke
A while ago, I started a wick check for Brick Joke in preparation for an eventual Trope Repair Shop thread. As I was working on it, however, I realized that I wasn't sure if it was applicable to serious situations or not. I know Tropes Are Flexible, but I wanted to ask about this so that I can have a working definition to use in sorting examples.
The page description focuses far more on the comedic aspect of the trope, leading with an explanation of the Trope Namer (an actual joke, naturally). However, it does mention that the structure of a Brick Joke can apply to dramatic situations as well (potholing Chekhov's Gun and then mentioning Chekhov's Gag). For whatever it's worth, the Laconic page explicitly defines it as humorous:
- A joke that was set up and forgotten about finally gets a punchline.
Looking into other pages only exacerbates the confusion. Square Peg, Round Trope likewise defines it solely in terms of comedy:
- Brick Joke is a funny event which is set up early, but the punchline doesn't come until later. It's not a reference to something that happened before that just so happened to be funny. It also isn't a funny joke that gets used again later unexpectedly, which is either a Call-Back or a Chekhov's Gag. It's also not (necessarily) a joke about bricks.
However, LaconicTropeDistinctions.A To C defines it as "You don't know why it was there until it shows up again later." This seems generic enough that it could include both comedic and dramatic examples.
Finally, TropeDistinctions.A To C explicitly says it does not have to be limited to actual jokes, contrasting it with Chekhov's Gag partially because the latter is solely about jokes:
- A Chekhov's Gag is humorous, involving a joke being set up, paying off, being forgotten by the viewer, then much later paying off yet again.[...]A Brick Joke is not solely about humor, and is plot-related. A minor, insignificant, or seemingly concluded event occurs, and the viewer is meant to think it over and done with. The event then recurs much later on to effect the plot in an unexpected way. In some ways, it is actually a Call-Back with plot significance.
This last sentence is also confusing, as Call-Back appears to be defined as "a reference to an earlier event in a series that's relevant for the plot" - in other words, it has plot significance. (And Call-Back's page mentions Brick Joke as a comedic trope, too.)
Apologies if this is overly long, but my question is this: what exactly is Brick Joke supposed to mean? Is it solely comedic, or can it include dramatic examples as well?
Edited by BlueGuyopenWashing stuffed toys trope
Does anyone know where that is? I need to add it to that episode "B.M.O.C." from The Cleveland Show. It shows that Donna washed Cleveland Jr.'s stuffed leopard Larry.
And I'm also assuming that Kira washed Chuckie's teddy bear in one Rugrats episode and I'm thinking that one has been added to that trope.
So can anyone help me find that trope?
open The Sinfest Forum Thread Webcomic
I've sent a few hollers regarding the thread, but I don't know if they got lost or something, so here's something a bit more permanent;
The thread, while very productive in its early life, in its current state has devolved into "Let's insult, bash, and mock the creator like he's actually reading any of this" — which, from what I heard about the guy is actually pretty understandable, but that's all the thread is these days. When someone tries to talk about the actual comic, it immediately derails back into the creator.
It actually kinda worries me since this behavior is incredibly similar to the internet's odd obsession with Chris-Chan, and I'm not the only one who thinks this (side note, the thread regular below that post not only agreed, but their signature is literally "I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.").
Edited by Crossover-EnthusiastopenAstro City - Glamorax pronouns? Print Comic
There seems to be some ongoing back-and-forth on the Characters.Astro City page where the pronouns for a character named Glamorax keep being switched back and forth between 'they/them' and just the character's name/Glam. Looks like it's happened a few times over the last few years. I haven't read enough of the comic to weigh in (only a few scattered trades here and there), but it'd probably be good to settle it one way or the other.
Asked on the forum topic for Astro City (as far as I saw there was only one from 2014) as well, no answer yet.
openMore of a correction Anime
I didn't feel comfortable changing it myself, but in the Art Shift entry for Megazone 23, it erroneously lists Haruhiko Mikimoto as the character designer for part 1. This is only true for the character, EVE. Despite the very similar art style, the other characters in Part 1 were designed by Toshihiro Hirano.
While not really an error per se, in the Gratuitous English entry, Shogo's SEX WAX jacket in Part 2 isn't actually Gratuitous English, it's an actual real-life American brand of surfboard wax produced in California!
open LGBT trope and mudane feminist fantasy trope
Hey, guys.
I noticed that Bi the Way and Badass Gay were cut. And I'm not here to advocate they bring them back but I do think we should make another trope that's better. Like, a trope to simply establish their sexual orientation, it can simply be LGBT+ Character. For example, Korra and Asami would be bisexual; catra and adora would be lesbian; etc. I just think this would be cool.
Also, I was thinking of a mundane version of Feminist Fantasy. You known how Feminist Fantasy is about lead female character(s) in a science, action, and/or fantasy stories, well the mundane version would be similair in theor but would be more mundane, like a slice of life dramedy.
Thoughts, guys.
openban evader?
Can we get an IP check on lemonhoney? Their forum activity, likes and dislikes seem similar to Healinfine.
openPronoun question
If a character can be either male or female, should I refer to them as "they" or "he/she" ?
open Is this okay?
Packer 135 has remade this page because they believe it was "unfairly cut". Is this okay?
I noticed that on Skullgirls that the entries under Palette Swap take up at least half of the entire page length. Should we just nuke all but the most relevant information, or is it worth condensing each list into notes?
Edited by AlleyOop