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laserviking42 Since: Oct, 2015
24th Mar, 2021 12:41:40 PM

According to the edit reason given, Magnificent Bastard and Smug Snake have undergone cleanup and the troper in question in changing the definitions to match.

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miraculous (Apprentice)
24th Mar, 2021 12:47:52 PM

As a guy who regularly posts in said cleanup-thread. That was not discussed their at all and a change like that to a tropes definition would require trs.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Mar, 2021 12:49:10 PM

Do I have your approval to revert changes?

43110 (Striking Back)
24th Mar, 2021 12:51:04 PM

The troper has had... issues with how the Magnificent Bastard cleanup thread has gone which really came to head when he rage quit leaving an inflammatory comment that has since been thumped. He's also just taken it upon himself to cut Magneto whom the cleanup thread had approved and left a rather... excited comment in the edit reason.

Can we get some help with this one? The troper has a tendency to reappear on the thread periodically, insult the process and people working on it, leave for a while and then rinse and repeat which has gone on for literal years now.

STARCRUSHER99 (Captain)
24th Mar, 2021 12:56:12 PM

↑↑ Yeah, please revert the changes. The troper didn't have approval to make those changes and has been incredibly aggressive on the thread, making it clear they don't intend to respect the process we've got going there.

↓ Holy run-on sentence and spelling

Edited by STARCRUSHER99
SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
24th Mar, 2021 12:58:01 PM

I am sending a notifier.

Edit: To paraphrase, I told them to please not make unilateral changes without discussing in the fora.

He also added the following to YMMV.X Men:

  • Magneto in comparatively recent years has lost just about everything that once made him a villain. Originally a genocidal, mutant supremacist terrorist, Magneto has been shown to care for abused humans along with mutants, protect them from other mutants and even give them seats on his council of Genosia. Even his moments of violence towards humans are justified by the plot always showing them as acts of self defence against human violence. Rather than wanting to exterminate humanity for the superior mutantkind, Mageto now is content with mutants and humanity living in peace and the only reason he and the X-Men are in conflict anymore is because humanity keeps Kicking The Dog and Proffesor X keeps defending them, which in turn makes Xavier look like a wide-eyed, naieve, Strawman of centrism, when in the past he used to have effectively the stance Magneto has now, making Magneto essentially a villain in name only.

Edited by SkyCat32
43110 (Striking Back)
24th Mar, 2021 01:09:39 PM

Honestly can we just grab a mod? I'm getting pretty tired of this.

SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
24th Mar, 2021 01:12:55 PM

I took the liberty of adding the MB entry back, BTW.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Mar, 2021 01:19:00 PM

Reverted it just now.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
24th Mar, 2021 01:39:55 PM

Yeah, to add my two cents...the user made an attempt to participate in cleanup and flamed out insulting everyone there. This seems to be pure spite editing.

SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
24th Mar, 2021 01:42:59 PM

They also added some...um...questionable bits to the Feminism page. Here too.

It has been reverted by another user, thankfully.

More specifically, it was some flame-bait about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. (I swear, celebrity relationships piss off too many damn people on this site).

Edited by SkyCat32
NubianSatyress Since: Mar, 2016
24th Mar, 2021 02:17:11 PM

I knew that name looked familiar.

Yeah, I remember that highly-sus edit on the Feminism page.

SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
24th Mar, 2021 02:42:13 PM

I have sent an ROCEJ custom notifier. If anyone needs a similar notifier, I keep it in my sandbox.

jjjj2 Since: Jul, 2015
24th Mar, 2021 03:02:24 PM

Fixed up some spelling errors with the reversion.

You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
24th Mar, 2021 03:06:30 PM

Speaking of ROCEJ violations, here is a portion of a Magnificent Bastard forum post which concerns me.

"...But then, I'm someone who believes Stalin was worse than Hitler."

...Putting aside the fact that both dictators were different types of tyrant, and that they were both vile in vastly different ways, that statement smacks of whitewashing a tyrant at best, and bluntly, white supremacist rhetoric at worst.

This especially strikes a raw nerve because I am a descendant of Holocaust survivors.

🔽 Perhaps, but such comments are used as an antisemitic dogwhistle often enough for me to be concerned.

Edited by SkyCat32
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
24th Mar, 2021 03:09:07 PM

I mean, it's not inherently bad to find one evil tyrant worse than another evil tyrant as long as you acknowledge that both were, indeed, evil tyrants.

SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
24th Mar, 2021 04:17:05 PM

Whelp. They have not responded to any notifiers.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
24th Mar, 2021 04:51:17 PM

^They haven’t edited for a few days; it’s entirely possible that they haven’t logged on since then.

At the very least we can say we tried to contact them.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
24th Mar, 2021 06:26:30 PM

People rarely respond to notifiers anyway; you usually just have to check back and make sure they're actually listening.

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miraculous (Apprentice)
25th Mar, 2021 08:10:09 AM

Bumping for mod attention

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
25th Mar, 2021 10:44:36 AM

For what it's worth, has anyone linked leviathan to the ATT?

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
25th Mar, 2021 10:48:13 AM

Not AFAIK. I'm generally against it if the user's behavior indicates they'll just have a flameout or attack us. Inviting people to discussion helps in some cases, but not typically ones like these.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
25th Mar, 2021 02:37:57 PM

Giantleviathan has responded to my notifiers. I am giving permission to a moderator to read the notifiers I sent them, as well as their responses.

They are still being belligerent.

Edit: To paraphrase, they claim that having a cleanup thread defeats the purpose of not deleting YMMV, that they have no respect for the cleanup thread, its members, its "hypocrisy", and whatever.

Edited by SkyCat32
Berrenta MOD Since: Apr, 2015
25th Mar, 2021 05:14:05 PM

Sending in a suspension.

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