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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
20th Feb, 2021 11:39:53 AM

Indeed it is allowed, and encouraged, even. I'll add it back.

BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
24th Feb, 2021 12:46:38 PM

Bumping this because troperaiser removed the link again. I have sent them a PM about the Red Link policy, but in the meantime I am wondering if changing it back to a link would be kosher. I know that the wiki "generally recognize[s] exceptions to the edit warring policy in cases where the editor is making an article compliant with wiki policies", which I figure includes the rule about making red links, but I wanted to make absolutely sure so as to not run afoul of the rules.

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STARCRUSHER99 (Captain)
24th Feb, 2021 12:53:57 PM

No worries - I added it back myself, with a note saying that the red link is supposed to be there. They're already in an edit war, but now it's an extra layer of mess-up if they choose to remove the link again

I've been corrected - it's not an edit war, but now hopefully no one else chooses to remove it.

Edited by STARCRUSHER99
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
24th Feb, 2021 12:57:28 PM

^ Not an edit war; the same person didn't remove it twice AFAIK.

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BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
24th Feb, 2021 01:05:19 PM

^^ Thank you. I went ahead and made a red link to Spider-Man: No Way Home as well, since its official title was recently confirmed.

^ Thank you for the clarification. I erred on the side of caution because the relevant policy page says that an edit war when person A adds something, person B changes it, and person A reverts it. Changing it back to a link myself seemed like it could count as a violation on my part.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
24th Feb, 2021 01:10:06 PM

I'm actually not sure that redlinking future works is allowed.

The relevant policy is to redlink existing works that don't have pages yet. I don't think there's anything directly covering works that don't exist yet, and in fact would think it would be discouraged in the case of the work not seeing release or being renamed before coming out.

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BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
24th Feb, 2021 01:15:26 PM

I admit it's a bit of a gray area, but without any official word on this particular scenario, I would think that the overarll Red Link policy would still apply. I don't want to get too hung up on the wording, but it seems very general.

Edited by BlueGuy Pinball cleanup thread
STARCRUSHER99 (Captain)
24th Feb, 2021 01:20:31 PM

^ Technically you still would’ve been in an edit war - since you would’ve added the same thing in twice - but since the policy is on your side, you should be in the clear to add it back if it gets removed again

rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
24th Feb, 2021 01:37:20 PM

I think the reason the red link was removed is that it could encourage tropers to create the page prematurely.

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BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
25th Feb, 2021 09:32:52 PM

Giving this another bump because the relevant portion of the page was edited twice by Godscar Chasm. First, they changed "Spider-Man: No Way Home" to "Spider-Man: No Way Home", before similarly altering "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness" to "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness". I know the discussion here hasn't been resolved, but these are clear-cut sinkholes and I wanted to make sure that I would not fall afoul of the edit war rules were I to change them. (The other reason I am holding off for now is because I am not entirely sure whether to make them red links or simple plain text.)

Edited by BlueGuy Pinball cleanup thread
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012
25th Feb, 2021 09:45:41 PM

Those aren't okay, I'm gonna go ahead and revert.

EDIT: Or, I would, if you didn't have the edit lock lol

DOUBLE-EDIT: Since your lock expired I went ahead and did it.

Edited by Dirtyblue929
STARCRUSHER99 (Captain)
25th Feb, 2021 09:48:16 PM

↑ ↑ Yeah, that's just a straight up incorrect edit no matter how you slice it, so you're okay to fix that if you get there first.

↓ And now we've gone from questionable issues to serious issues. You wanna make the ATT for that troper or shall I?

Edited by STARCRUSHER99
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012
25th Feb, 2021 09:55:05 PM

Only semi-related but I noticed that Godscar Chasm also recently changed a few links to WesternAnimation.Frozen to Film.Frozen, which is... Not great.

Edited by Dirtyblue929
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012
25th Feb, 2021 10:41:00 PM

^^ I think this may have just been an honest mistake over them not understanding namespaces, but they're definitely someone to keep an eye on. If you want to make a thread go ahead.

Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
26th Feb, 2021 06:49:55 AM

I think redlinking for future works should go in its own thread, which I've started a thread for. This thread can stay to discuss the edit warring.

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