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Looks like The Same, but More Specific for Original Character, and the whole "discussing general trends" aspect of the page sounds like it's violating Examples Are Not General. (I'm aware that the latter is mainly meant to prevent the addition of Troper Tales, but focusing on general examples isn't much of an improvement over being a definition-only page, should this be kept at all.)

Edit: Out of curiosity, I checked to see if the example list contains any Mary Sue wicks since the description contains one, and indeed it does contain a few, despite its Flame Bait status. If this goes to TRS and isn't cut entirely, then I feel that at least an Example Sectionectomy is warranted due to the general examples and Flame Bait. (Original Character has already had a Sectionectomy.)

Edit: Removed some natter as well as all Mary Sue-related wicks, but I might not have gotten all of the natter (and I may have missed some Flame Bait).

Edit: I checked the discussion page and it did say it was a definition-only page at one point (2010 or so), yet it also apparently had examples despite that.

This trope is about Original Characters that are added by exploiting trends or hierarchies in character designs in-story. The eponymous work has a "Sailor Moon" and a "Sailor Venus", so adding characters inspired by other planetary bodies is an obvious consequence.

We don't Cut List large tropes with almost 11000 inbounds in an Ask The Tropers discussion, however. Trope Repair Shop would be the correct place.

^I should probably clarify that I'm aware that Ask The Tropers is the wrong place to suggest trope cuts, but the reference to the Trope Repair Shop in my previous post kind of got buried in the string of edits regarding more minor fixes.

I think it is a trope - "adding a new character that fits in with a theme of the original work" - and that it's sufficiently different from the parent trope Original Characters, so it shouldn't be cut.

It does seem to need a cleanup, though. A new TRS thread sounds like a good idea.

^Yeah, maybe it is more distinct than I originally thought, but the page still seems to have a complaining problem (which is a TRS reason itself), based on what I cut earlier (in particular, Mary Sue-related complaining, which is what the Flame Bait designation is meant to prevent).

Edit: Upon further inspection, this is already in the Mary Sue Tropes index, specifically for overlap with Copycat Sue, which I encountered some of earlier.

Sailor Earth is Not a Trope, but it is an Audience Reaction. It's about how the Audience Reacts to a certain aspect of the world by creating lots of original characters.

The examples being all general tells zilch all of how the fanfics actually use such characters. Specific fanfics and characters of this type should be explicitly shown as fitting in the theme, so that it can be shown that yes, fanfiction does exist that uses these angles, instead of troper suggestions of what to do like "it's easy to make Sailor Moon OCs for this work by..."

^^That's not how it's currently classified. It's not listed on the Audience Reactions index or the main YMMV index. Changing that is another thing that would require TRS.

Going by the definition of the page, it is an audience reaction, even if it's incorrectly classified.

I don't think Sailor Earth needs to give specific examples. It's pretty much a Sub-Trope of Fanfic Fuel, where an aspect of the story inspires Original Characters.

^I don't disagree that it involves audience reactions to elements of the original work(s), especially considering your point about its relation to Fanfic Fuel. I was stating that it's currently listed as an objective trope, not that I think it should stay that way. Changing that certainly wouldn't be the first time something was moved to YMMV this year.

Examples Are Not General, so if it's not giving specific examples, it's not giving any examples.

The page specifically says to not give specific examples:

Sailor Earth isn't about the characters themselves, but rather an aspect of a story from which new character ideas can easily be derived.

I think there's some confusion here (and I'm confused, too).

There's an audience reaction to, say, Sailor Moon: "Hey, all the characters are named after planets, but there are omissions. Let's name our fanfic characters according to the same theme."

Then there's a trope which applies to the fanfics, and not to the original: "There are OCs named by the same theme as the characters in the original franchise."

I don't think we usually trope audience reactions like the first one: we don't make examples (audience reactions or not) for the original work that refer to derivative works. So if that's what Sailor Earth is, I think it should probably go.

But I think the fanfic trope "This fanfic contains a new character named according to the same theme as the original work uses" is a valid trope. But it should have specific examples, not general ones.

I'd love to give input, but I'll wait for a TRS thread.

Just posted the TRS thread, waiting for its approval.

For the time being... I think its image is also Just a Face and a Caption.

Opened it.