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We actually discussed the Wii-U at a cleanup thread, though I forget which one, and the consensus was that it was never popular.
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Was it Condemned By History cleanup
? Because I was the one who brought it up as a possible example and we basically came to the same conclusion.
Oh, yes, that'd be it :P
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I think homebrew in that context means the modding community.
Even still the Wii U's modding and homebrew community wasn't as big as the Wii's, and it certainly isn't as big as the Dreamcast's, which continues to get unofficial releases.
Yes the Wii U is a good modding platform but to say that it's homebrew scene is "bustling" on the same level as the Dreamcast is an exaggeration.
Edited by supernintendo128 pee pee poo poo
i've seen on twitter there's a very odd Vocal Minority of people who insist that the wii U was just Better and had more Soul than the current switch era, which is, let's say debatable. i get the feeling this entry was written by one of those people who wants to skew things toward being positive... but it feels way too early to call it VBH, not to mention the entry having a very biased perspective in general, as you mentioned
There's a chance that it might gain a Game Cube-style cult following once nostalgia for the 2010s kicks in a decade or two from now, but at the moment it doesn't seem to apply. Given that, it might be best to remove the point for now.
Be kind.
Yeah, agreed. Will remove. Also, there's a Shadow the Hedgehog entry that I don't think fits either. I'm opening a clean-up thread.
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I concur the Wii U's best compliments seem to be "wasted potential"... and most of that potential was fulfilled by the Switch.
Opening a cleanup thread for what?
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Opening a clean-up thread for Vindicated by History. You can find it here.
I wouldn't call the Wii U vindicated because regardless of how you feel about the hardware's potential the library is just not there.
It's like 90% low-quality ports of 360/PS 3 era games and shovelware with the odd exclusive or first-party Nintendo game of lukewarm reception mixed in.
Edited by CryptidProductions
^ The Wii U games by Nintendo generally have good reception from critics and players. It was just that nobody wanted or knew they needed a Wii U to play them.
The various games out on Wii U could be thought of as vindicated thanks to the various Switch ports, but the Wii U itself is not vindicated. The only nice thing people say about the Wii U is that it birthed the Switch. That's pretty much it.
Edited by Ngamer01
^ The Wii U definitely had some strong games coming from Nintendo, but it had terrible 3rd party support that fizzled out in only a year and most of them could be experienced on other systems, not even Nintendo knew what to do with the Gamepad, and even the quality of Nintendo's output waned during the system's twilight years. Sure we had Breath of the Wild, but it was also on Switch, where many of the Wii U's former exclusives would also receive ports or sequels. The console could've been vindicated if many of the best games on the system didn't get ports or if the Wii U versions were still considered the definitive way to play those games, but if anything porting these games to Switch highlighted how unnecessary the Gamepad was. Breath of the Wild, which was supposed to take advantage of the Gamepad (the Sheikah Slate is a remnant of that function), had those features gutted and relegated to a press of the minus button and the game turned out just fine.
The Wii U is a Cult Classic at best. Many people outside of that see it as a necessary mistep that gave way to the Switch.
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Now that the clean up thread is live, I think this conversation should be had there as this query is getting long.
Macron's notes
There's this entry from Vindicated By History:
I disagree with this entry, for one thing it was written right after the system was discontinued so it violates the trope's 5-year waiting period, second many of the system's best games were ported to Switch, so people continued to joke about the Wii U not having any games, many retrospectives agree that the Gamepad was a mistake which its only redeeming quality is that it influenced the Switch, and many people agree that the Wii U isn't the "new Dreamcast" like people were saying it would be remembered as.
Also the Wii U's library was criticized late in it's life for receiving a string of poorly received games like Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, and Star Fox Zero. Same can't be said about the Dreamcast which kept the heavy hitters coming until the bitter end.
> a lot of old school gamers respected for being one of the last bastions of 60 FPS gameplay outside PC.
I've never heard of that. In fact a common critique is that the system wasn't powerful enough to compete with rival offerings from Sony and Microsoft.
> At one point after its discontinuation, the system went for well over $1000 on the used market due to the very low supply not meeting the growing demand.
Now it goes for $150 with the Gamepad. A brief spike in price means absolutely nothing.
> it's been helped even farther by its bustling Homebrew scene.
What homebrew scene? I googled "Wii U homebrew games" and could barely get anything outside of emulators and generic ports of old arcade staples.
I feel like this entry is overtly gushy, reaching, and exaggerates the truth to make the Wii U seem better than it really is. If anything, it could be remembered for being the first Nintendo system with good multimedia capabilities (something the Switch falls short of to this day) for being the definitive way to play Wii games since you can play them over HDMI (unless you like to play Brawl with a GameCube controller), and for not charging for online play and locking Virtual Console games behind a subscription paywall. My point is that the Wii U isn't as well-remembered as it was when it was discontinued, but since it didn't light the world on fire it doesn't fall under Condemned by History either. Sure it still has a few titles worth playing but in the long-term it got overshadowed by the Switch. At the very least I think this deserves a rewrite.
Edited by supernintendo128