DISCUSS pages that MIGHT have to be dealt with

Remember, it's not about breaking the rules, it's about getting caught.

And anyway, One Manga already got zapped, didn't it? Even if it wasn't by Google. (Of course, that still means we have all those now-dead links to deal with....)

Direct-linking to a single page would probably fall under Fair Use (to my understanding of it, anyway), but linking to sites that have the entire chapters up is probably not the best idea.

And if Google's on the site about "mature/sexual" content, then that's not even the problem, anyway.

edited 31st Oct '10 3:39:45 PM by YamiiDenryuu

pages for R-Rated/NC-17 movies might possibly belong behind the wall. Especially Clerks, The Big Lebowski and any other "profane" film that removing offending quotes isn't an option.

Immortality Bisexuality, possibly?

Philip José Farmer is currently NSFG. I think it could be made SFG by removing an explicit description of a squicky sex act. The example clearly demonstrates why PJF had trouble getting published in the early days. We could lose the details — but I don't get the tradeoff: what, if any, is the cost of moving a page behind the curtain? Is it better to make pages SFG if we can?

edited 31st Oct '10 9:34:30 PM by Camacan

"Is it better to make pages SFG if we can?"

I think so, especially when the NSFW parts are only minor to a work.

^^ The only thing having a page behind the curtain does is protect people who might not want to take a chance of being offended from the possibility the they'll be offended by it. Which is all Google is asking for — a warning and a way for people to not see those pages unexpectedly. There's nothing inherently good or bad about which side of the curtain any given page is on.

^ Yes. Yes! YES.

If all it takes is changing a couple of words that aren't vital (so, not if they're part of a quote, or something like that) or rewriting or trimming an example to do away with an unnecessary and lovingly detailed description of sex or violence, please do so. (The PJF example Camacna is talking about is necessary.) And if it's on a page that's already marked (the button in the sidebar will have a red "!" if that's the case,) hit the "Flag this page" button and explain that it's been cleaned up in the "reason" box. That would be wonderful.

edited 31st Oct '10 10:25:10 PM by Madrugada

"Yes. Yes! YES."

I'll have what Mad's having.

edited 31st Oct '10 10:33:26 PM by DragonQuestZ

Does Google care about violence? Becasue if they do, then these tropes need to be moved:

• Bloody Tropes
• Beat Still, My Heart
• And Show It to You
• Off with His Head!
• Decapitation Presentation
• Gorn
• Bloodier and Gorier
• Family-Unfriendly Violence
• Family-Unfriendly Death
• Cruel and Unusual Death

Also, Religion of Evil maybe?

edited 31st Oct '10 10:59:47 PM by fawn

^ Even if google doesn't care, it would be amazingly nonsensical to leave pages with "Family Unfriendly" in their title on the family friendly part of the site.

Articles on the NSFG side will make less money if we get Google back, so there is a reason not to quarantine any more of them than is really necessary.

What's the rule on works pages that don't actually contain anything that's necessarily considered mega-adult but make heavy references to tropes that have been placed on the other side of the curtain? For example, Final Fantasy Unlimited was assigned a rating of TV-PG-V, but includes references to tropes such as BFG, Boobs Of Steel and Shower Scene amongst others, all of which are behind the curtain.

Mentioning them is not an issue per se. Going into loving detail about them is.

I don't think Boobs Of Steel is, itself, a sexual trope. It does, however, involve boobs.

Might be nice if we can rewrite BFG and BFB so they don't use profanity, so they can stay on the good side.

But how does one rewrite that, though? "Uh, that word, yeah, you know the one we mean..."

Big freaking sword. Big freaking gun.

What about music/band names?

Anal Cunt is pretty in-your-face (if you will pardon that...ahem...rather unfortunate expression).

"Might be nice if we can rewrite BFG and BFB so they don't use profanity, so they can stay on the good side."

How about replacing the first lines with "Some like to claim it stands for "Big Fun X", but we all know better."?

edited 1st Nov '10 7:07:27 PM by DragonQuestZ

Big Freaking Gun works well.

It's the description, not the redirects.

The captions for Hellhound and Everything's Even Worse with Sharks probably need to be changed because of the profanity.

I would do it myself, but I can't think of a decent one for Hellhound, and I already tried to change Everything's Even Worse with Sharks caption recently (for a different reason), but someone changed it back.

Edit: Also, is Google satisfied with just censoring profanity? Like instead of saying fuck, saying f*** or f*ck? Also, are they Ok with "Badass"?

edited 1st Nov '10 9:04:03 PM by fawn

I took the sharks one down and changed the Hellhound one. If someone puts them back I'll admin-comment the page to leave them off.

Might add a SFG caption to Everything's Even Worse with Sharks if that's okay.

edited 1st Nov '10 8:47:37 PM by Marioguy128

Re: The BF Whatever articles, doesn't it only work if you remove all the instances of profanity from the page? Sure, you can censor the first instance, but then there's still something like a baker's dozen f-bombs later on in the article.

edited 1st Nov '10 9:06:13 PM by Agent0042